Cant schedule FP for March 16

Why can't the FP+ window open at MK park opening time instead of park closing? This is a small change that I don't think would inconvenience too many people. I know a lot won't agree, but I just don't understand the Midnight or 1 am ritual. I feel like there's a lot of people at Disney wwho are saying, " Ok, let's see if these fools will jump through these hoops"

It really wouldn't be any more fair. And it would be 7 or 8 or 9 hours later than it is now.

I think it is Disney just permitting access ASAP per their calendar. But it is not an obligatory exercise. We do fine by not staying up or getting up at midnight. (I happened to be up last night and was ready to give it a try but was too tired to stay up until 1am when I discovered that was needed.)

I do appreciate Mesaboy reporting on the closure time affecting when the window opens.

Anyway--what may be more convenient to those on the east coast, may not be more convenient to those traveling from
Other parts of then out the and the world.
 
It really wouldn't be any more fair. And it would be 7 or 8 or 9 hours later than it is now.

I think it is Disney just permitting access ASAP per their calendar. But it is not an obligatory exercise. We do fine by not staying up or getting up at midnight. (I happened to be up last night and was ready to give it a try but was too tired to stay up until 1am when I discovered that was needed.)

I do appreciate Mesaboy reporting on the closure time affecting when the window opens.

Anyway--what may be more convenient to those on the east coast, may not be more convenient to those traveling from
Other parts of then out the and the world.

I might accept what you say except for the fact that major ticket sellers like Ticketmaster open their sales for a really popular concert on specified day at 10am in the time zone of the concert. Disney could do the same thing, but they choose not to. Would it be easier for everyone if the FP+ reservation window opened at 10 am EST daily and not based on the park closing time? They could also open the ADR window at the same time as the FP+ window. Customer satisfaction or convenience is not Disney's primary goal.

I agree that Mesaboy's thread is great, but why has Disney created a system that is so cumbersome that a thread like this is needed for people to understand the system? I really think Mesaboy would agree with me about this.
 
I agree that Mesaboy's thread is great, but why has Disney created a system that is so cumbersome that a thread like this is needed for people to understand the system?

This forum has been around a long time and it's always been needed to get the information you need to get the most out of your Disney vacation. This isn't anything new just since the beginning of FP+. If one wants to search back, there are pages and pages of questions about all sorts of things. WDW is a pretty big, complicated place to visit and if you want the most out of it, you have to do some research. I'm sure that's true of other locations as well.
 

This forum has been around a long time and it's always been needed to get the information you need to get the most out of your Disney vacation. This isn't anything new just since the beginning of FP+. If one wants to search back, there are pages and pages of questions about all sorts of things. WDW is a pretty big, complicated place to visit and if you want the most out of it, you have to do some research. I'm sure that's true of other locations as well.
If one goal was to make this easier for the casual guest isn't requiring them to seek out forums such as this a bit odd? In my opinion Disney themselves should post the information and people shouldn't have to rely on fan websites. I even talk to people daily who don't even use the Internet! (Yes, I find that incredible in this day and age.)
 
Mesaboy's thread is full of tips including when to hop on when the parks close at 1am. Today's date was included. No secret handshake required.

When was your last visit? You speak in hyperbole an awful lot that makes me think you have yet to try the system.
How many first time visitors actually visit the Dis? I'd wager a guess probably not all that many.
 
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If one goal was to make this easier for the casual guest isn't requiring them to seek out forums such as this a bit odd? In my opinion Disney themselves should post the information and people shouldn't have to rely on fan websites. I even talk to people daily who don't even use the Internet! (Yes, I find that incredible in this day and age.)

I don't know that "easier" ( which I don't think was a goal) and more convenient are the same thing. People don't have to rely on this website to find out what they need- this website is a great source for those who want detailed information that gives them an edge and that's not any different than any other vacation really. If I want everything I can find out about a vacation destination, I go to websites that have other people who have done it and know the ropes. This is no different.
 
This forum has been around a long time and it's always been needed to get the information you need to get the most out of your Disney vacation. This isn't anything new just since the beginning of FP+. If one wants to search back, there are pages and pages of questions about all sorts of things. WDW is a pretty big, complicated place to visit and if you want the most out of it, you have to do some research. I'm sure that's true of other locations as well.
Wow, I thought Mesaboy's FP+ thread was created to answer questions about FP+. You're saying it was created before FP+? What was it addressing at that point?
 
This forum

Is what I said, and yes there have been stickies for years on the best way to do this, that or the other. I'd bet my last Disney dollar that if some new thing comes up at WDW this board with be flooded with how to's about it. The fact that someone was nice enough to take the time to explain intricate details- while nice to know and very helpful in getting absolutely the most value you can- is nice, but not neccesary in order to schedule fp+. You can learn what you need to know thru Disney. The OP got her SDMT fp with only 30 days out. Sounds like a success in the end to me.

Making a reservation on site isn't terribly difficult but we have a whole section dedicated to nothing but that. Without this forum, I wouldn't know what the "bears face" is or that it's the very best location to have at the Wilderness Lodge. Does that mean Disney made staying at the Wilderness Lodge cumbersome?
 
How many first time visitors actually visit the Dis? I'd wager a guess probably not all that many.

Unlikely, very few.

But he mentions and bumps it and refers to it often. And the folks on this thread do not appear to be first time posters.
 
This forum

Is what I said, and yes there have been stickies for years on the best way to do this, that or the other. I'd bet my last Disney dollar that if some new thing comes up at WDW this board with be flooded with how to's about it. The fact that someone was nice enough to take the time to explain intricate details- while nice to know and very helpful in getting absolutely the most value you can- is nice, but not neccesary in order to schedule fp+. You can learn what you need to know thru Disney. The OP got her SDMT fp with only 30 days out. Sounds like a success in the end to me.

Making a reservation on site isn't terribly difficult but we have a whole section dedicated to nothing but that. Without this forum, I wouldn't know what the "bears face" is or that it's the very best location to have at the Wilderness Lodge. Does that mean Disney made staying at the Wilderness Lodge cumbersome?
I don't think that FP+ is exactly the same. How many people show up at WDW not even knowing that FP+ exists? I'm sure that they all know that they will need to eat or sleep somewhere.

I still think that Disney should provide more information when it can. Obviously, it can't do much for those who buy tickets at the gate but it could help others more.
 
I don't think that FP+ is exactly the same. How many people show up at WDW not even knowing that FP+ exists? I'm sure that they all know that they will need to eat or sleep somewhere.

I still think that Disney should provide more information when it can. Obviously, it can't do much for those who buy tickets at the gate but it could help others more.

There were people who had no clue paper fastpasses existed. ( shocking, but true)

What are your suggestions for guest education since you find what Disney is doing as lacking?
 
There were people who had no clue paper fastpasses existed. ( shocking, but true)

What are your suggestions for guest education since you find what Disney is doing as lacking?
As I said, you can't do much for people who just show up. However there could be more data on their website and they could also send better literature to those who order tickets from them.
 
As I said, you can't do much for people who just show up. However there could be more data on their website and they could also send better literature to those who order tickets from them.

For the people who just show up that we cannot do much for? Or what guest?

Here is the screen shot from the website where you start...

Just wondering what more they could do to make it more helpful.
 

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As I said, you can't do much for people who just show up. However there could be more data on their website and they could also send better literature to those who order tickets from them.
Here are my ideas:
1. When people register their upcoming trip and tickets in MDE , they are provided the exact date and time(EST) that they will be able to make their reservations.
2. When you are making your FP + reservations all available times for a specific attraction are available, so that you don't have to keep going back and forth between your attractions to tweak everything.
3. ADR window and FP+ window open on the same day so that people can easily plan everything at once.

It's not a lot, but it would make a big difference.
 
Here are my ideas:
1. When people register their upcoming trip and tickets in MDE , they are provided the exact date and time(EST) that they will be able to make their reservations.
2. When you are making your FP + reservations all available times for a specific attraction are available, so that you don't have to keep going back and forth between your attractions to tweak everything.
3. ADR window and FP+ window open on the same day so that people can easily plan everything at once.

It's not a lot, but it would make a big difference.

For #1 and staying on site, that would be helpful. It does appear in follow up information the snail mail regarding our upcoming trip, though not the time.

2. Can't argue with that.

3. Would be great.
 
I wasn't referring to the forum in my previous post , and you know that. I was speaking specifically of Mesaboy's FP+ thread. You know, the one about FP+'s, the one that was named Thread of the Year on the boards? If FP+ were so straight forward, why is this thread needed?


Perhaps you just didn't understand my post...

The Dis itself has been around for years. It's a site that helps people learn about WDW and plan their vacations- among other things. As I said before, there is a resort forum and on that forum there is a stickie with links to the threads that are about all the different resorts within WDW explaining intricate details, some of them little known, that enable people to make a more informed choice on their resort. Does that mean it's incredibly difficult and cumbersome to make a reservation? No. Are they popular threads? YES. Why? Because some people want to know all there is to know- even if it's not essential to actually making a reservation and they don't like digging thru dozens of posts and threads looking for it.

Mesaboy's thread ( which is extremely informative, yet is not a stickie as I thought it was) was created I would imagine (because I didn't create it, I wouldn't know for sure) to give people an easy, convenient and quick way to learn all there is to know about FP+. Mesaboy refers to it in a great many of his responses, so it gets lots of advertising, so to speak. Is most of that information absolutely essential to getting fp+'s? No. But it helps people not to have to dig thru threads like this, where the subject is lost and we got off on a tangent arguing about the merits of fp+.
 
I don't think that FP+ is exactly the same. How many people show up at WDW not even knowing that FP+ exists? I'm sure that they all know that they will need to eat or sleep somewhere.

I still think that Disney should provide more information when it can. Obviously, it can't do much for those who buy tickets at the gate but it could help others more.

Actually, I can't imagine there are many- but if you just show up at WDW, having never visited before, no tickets purchased in advance and did not even so much as look at their website, watched an advertisement on tv or even made a phone call to them- let alone do any general research on what is a very expensive vacation no matter how cheap you go- Then the onus is on you. You're going to have a lousy time fp+ or no fp+.

They are advertising this stuff beyond belief. One phone call to WDW having to listen to their recordings explaining it all ought to be proof enough of that. If you manage to get by without hearing about it- well I want to know what rock they were living under.
 
Noon would be terrible for people who work and aren't free to spend time scheduling fp+'s. There's really not a great time that works for everyone. Personally, 5 am works for me- it's about the time I get up every morning- but I'm betting a lot of people wouldn't like that either.

Agree 100%. I do have computer access at work and usually get on at lunchtime to read the Dis, but I prefer not to sign in to anything, post, etc - and I tend to get interrupted a lot. I would not want to have to make FP+ from work. 5 am would be fine with me, too - in fact, that's when I may end up making mine anyway since I don't plan to be up at midnight (CT on a 1 am ET day).


Here are my ideas:
1. When people register their upcoming trip and tickets in MDE , they are provided the exact date and time(EST) that they will be able to make their reservations.
2. When you are making your FP + reservations all available times for a specific attraction are available, so that you don't have to keep going back and forth between your attractions to tweak everything.
3. ADR window and FP+ window open on the same day so that people can easily plan everything at once.

It's not a lot, but it would make a big difference.

1. But wouldn't there still be a problem with times changing based on later MK hours that aren't always set in stone in advance)? I guess if they made the start time 6 am like ADRs, it would work.

2. Totally agree with this one. I already know what I'll be shooting for on Tuesday and what times - and I know I'll have to take the best "package" of times I can get then go back and move stuff to where I want it. This could definitely be improved.

3. How many days out would be a good compromise between 60 and 180?

Genuinely curious.
 





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