Can't afford open bar for whole wedding-is this acceptable instead?*Update on pg 20*

shoney said:
Well I do buy a variety...LOL...I know what close family members like and I do buy them. I even include the o'douls for my SIL.

Usually guests bring beer/wine/dessert to a house party. they aren't asked, they just do it. So, if someone wanted a particular brand, then that is probably what they would choose to bring.

As for parties/get togethers, I, and when growing up , my family, wouldn't hesitate to ask someone to bring additional drinks, ice, chips, etc. We've had people do the same with us. It's never a big deal, and for the most part, people are pretty honest and up front if they don't want to/can't afford.

It's so interesting looking at the different views and ways people approach the subject. Obviously no one way is 'right,' but its interesting to gauge people's thoughts on it.
 
I've been married twice. Cash bar at the first wedding, with a buffet dinner. Had about 250 guests. No one seemed to be put out that they had to pay for their drinks.
Second wedding, had 90 guests and a plated meal. Decided to have an open bar for the first 90 mins of the reception...basically while photos were being done elsewhere. But, my father decided that since they hadn't paid for anything, he was going to pay for an open bar for the rest of the evening. I found out about that the next day. I wasn't amused.
Every time I go to a wedding that has an open bar, I see a ton of half full glasses sitting around, while people head to the bar for more to drink. There is a huge amount of waste, not to mention a lot of drunk guests. And I don't want my guests driving home while under the influence of my reception!!!

I would always recommend having a bottle of white wine and a bottle of red wine on each table. Then, leave the bar open for the first hour. If people want more to drink after that, it's their responsibility to not get drunk and drive.

And when we have people to our house, for any type of get together?? We have some wine, some beer and a lot of soft drinks. Not a ton of alcohol but some. Again, I don't want to be worried about people leaving drunk.
 
Exactly. In my eyes it's no different than offering chicken as the entree and then telling the guests they can upgrade to steak for $10.

I think one important difference might be that I personally have probably been to over a dozen wedding with cash bars. I have heard of countless others.

I have never been to a wedding where you could pay to upgrade your dinner choice.

"In your eyes", you don't see a difference. In "my" eyes, one is very common, the other is unheard of.
 
Seems like alcohol at a wedding is a regional thing...or perhaps sometimes a religious/lifestyle thing.

In my area, it would be quite unusual to have a cash bar. I would hope that if someone intended to have a cash bar that they would somehow figure out a way to notify their guests so that the guests came prepared with cash. Since cash bars are not the norm here, we generally don't go to a wedding carrying $40 or $50 to buy drinks with. If we know ahead of time, then we will be prepared. The average cost for a glass of wine in my area is $7-$10, so for DH & I $40 would get us 2 glasses of wine each over the course of the event. Mixed drinks, depending on what they are, could be more expensive, as could a nice glass of scotch, which DH sometimes like to indulge in on a special occasion. We are purely social drinkers but do enjoy a "special occasion" drink on what we consider to be a special occasion, such as a wedding.

My (and please note that I said "my") general feeling is that I would not host a party such as a wedding and ask people to pay for partaking in it. I would plan the wedding that I could afford. A casual potluck party among friends is different, since the expectation with potluck is that everyone will pitch in. My sister-in-law having a party and me offering to bring a salad is different, since I'm offering to bring a salad. My sister-in-law planning a partyand asking me to bring a salad is different because she is my sister-in-law & I haveno problem helping her out. Asking 200 of my closest friends and relatives chip in for the alcohol at my wedding is different.

Would I attend a wedding where no alcohol was served? Well of course I would, and I have. But no one at that wedding charged me $1 per hors d'ourvre, which is really the equivalent of charging for alcohol at a party one is hosting.

In the event that I could not afford to supply a full open bar, I would probably offer beer (gasp!), wine & soft drinks as a compromise if I wanted to serve some sort of alcohol. Or I would serve no alcohol at all.
 

Here's a question... a number of you have said you don't like "charging" guests to attend your party. Does that mean you pay for their hotel room? Gas for their car? Plane Ticket? Tuxedo/Gown rental (for really formal parties)?
 
Here's a question... a number of you have said you don't like "charging" guests to attend your party. Does that mean you pay for their hotel room? Gas for their car? Plane Ticket? Tuxedo/Gown rental (for really formal parties)?

Of course not, but if they are willing to spend that much to attend my wedding, even less of a reason to charge them for anything AT the party.
 
We planned our wedding with Beer, wine & champagne. When my dad got there the club was charging a friend of mine for her coke, and they had the full bar set up for cash drinks, not what I wanted, so my dad opened up the bar & we did not have a big bill most folks drank the Beer & Wine. the Wine was on the table. the Beer, Wine & Champagne was a gift from my Dad old employer he was there GM for their beer & wine wholesaler. it was in the 80's so we almost had wine coolers too :rotfl2:

Kae
 
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Here's a question... a number of you have said you don't like "charging" guests to attend your party. Does that mean you pay for their hotel room? Gas for their car? Plane Ticket? Tuxedo/Gown rental (for really formal parties)?

of course not--- people already are spending a buttload on those things, so the very least the host/ess can do is provide a good party. A good party IMO includes alcohol, music and food---no one should pay extra for anything of those things.
 
of course not--- people already are spending a buttload on those things, so the very least the host/ess can do is provide a good party. A good party IMO includes alcohol, music and food---no one should pay extra for anything of those things.
No "bounce house"? :rotfl2: Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, I'm under the assumption drinks ARE included... water/tea/coffee/maybe soft drinks. A cash bar gives an option to guests who want something "more".
 
No "bounce house"? :rotfl2: Sorry, couldn't resist.

Anyway, I'm under the assumption drinks ARE included... water/tea/coffee/maybe soft drinks. A cash bar gives an option to guests who want something "more".

lol--- haven't been to a wedding with a bounce house, but might come in handy on the honeymoon :scratchin
 
You have to know your "audience". The people I wanted at my wedding reception would have been shocked by no alcohol or a cash bar, because they wouldn't have been used to it - therefore there was no question that it would be open bar. The reception was on the lawns and courtyards of my parents' house, so no outside venue to rent - it was easy to buy alcohol on consignment at wholesale prices and return what wasn't used (or chilled). I guess a cash bar wouldn't even have been practical, since we were operating the bar ourselves (we paid some men from our club to bartend)! The food was provided by a hired caterer, who also rented us all the glassware for the bar and the tents for the lawn. But we did the drinks - it was the cheapest way, no-one else's profit was factored into the cost.

However, if your wedding is at an outside venue and your guests are used to having to pay for alcohol (or certain alcohol) at outside venues, then they won't be shocked. Drinks at outside venues usually cost more because of mark-ups, so if you can't do the drinks yourself I guess you have to look at options to keep the cost reasonable.
 
[/B]I've never been to a BYOB or a potluck party.

I've hosted BBQ parties in the summer with up to 50 guests and no one was required to bring anything. Most people brought a bottle of wine, dessert, etc, but they weren't asked to.
Regional differences then. Potlucks and BYOB are quite common in the south and do not violate any type of hospitality rules. I grew up in a state where you cannot purchase liquor on Sundays, election days, after 9pm in a liquor store on several holidays.

Potlucks are also popular because there are certain kids that will ONLY eat mac and cheese or pizza or several other unhealthy types of foods.
 
Why even invite guests then? If it was "all about you" and you don't care what they thought... wow. Can you say bridezilla?
Because the worst weddings I have been to had open bars. Just because we did not meet someone's idea of hospitality, it did not mean we are not hospitable. The wedding day certainly is never about the guest. It is like going to a birthday party and expecting it to be about your enjoyment rather than the one celebrating the birthday.

Like having vegetarian items for guests, etc.
 
Regional differences then. Potlucks and BYOB are quite common in the south and do not violate any type of hospitality rules. I grew up in a state where you cannot purchase liquor on Sundays, election days, after 9pm in a liquor store on several holidays.

Potlucks are also popular because there are certain kids that will ONLY eat mac and cheese or pizza or several other unhealthy types of foods.

Every sitdown wedding I have been to has a separate kids meal.

Because the worst weddings I have been to had open bars. Just because we did not meet someone's idea of hospitality, it did not mean we are not hospitable. The wedding day certainly is never about the guest. It is like going to a birthday party and expecting it to be about your enjoyment rather than the one celebrating the birthday.

Like having vegetarian items for guests, etc.

I most certainly think of what my guests will enjoy for any type of party, including birthdays.

Are you saying you wouldn't offer a vegetarian meal if you knew some of your guests were vegetarian?


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What's the point of inviting people if you don't care whether or not they enjoy themselves? Why not elope or spend your birthday alone?
 
Because the worst weddings I have been to had open bars. Just because we did not meet someone's idea of hospitality, it did not mean we are not hospitable. The wedding day certainly is never about the guest. It is like going to a birthday party and expecting it to be about your enjoyment rather than the one celebrating the birthday.

Like having vegetarian items for guests, etc.

The best parties are where you manage to blend what the hosts want with what the guests would love and come up with just the right mix. A good wedding reception fits this category as well. My wedding reception was certainly not all about me - I took a lot of care to look after my guests the way I thought they'd want to be looked after. It's a matter of finding just the right amount of choices (in food, drink and music) so that everyone or at least the vast majority (there's always one hard to please person that is impossible to cater for ;)) is happy and can go home saying "that was a great party!".
 
I don't live in the US, but considering every single wedding I've been to the groom and the bride go from table to table asking for money and sometimes being really pushy about it since it's usually done by the groom and a lot of his friends, same for the bride, I would rather just pay for my drinks and even my food than to be pretty much forced to give them money when I've already bought a gift and spent money on a dress, make up, travel, etc to come to the party.

In fact, I think I would prefer to pay for my food, drinks and dessert than to feel obligated to buy an expensive gift and on top of that have people ask me for money at the party.

Here, people seem to make a wedding reception to make a profit or to at least cover the cost of the reception, all of them. Not sure if they all succeed, but they sure do try.

As for people not wanting to go to a party that didn't serve alcohol, I know a few that would not want to go and would complain about it if they went. Some people I know don't even go a single day without having beer or wine or something else with alcohol in it. Every night they drink something and God forbid they have to eat a meal on a weekend or on vacation without alcohol, it just does not happen.
 
Around here, every single wedding I've ever been to has had a cocktail hour followed by a 4 hour reception, with an open bar for all 5 hours.

No, wait. There was one about 10 years ago that had no liquour. Both the bride and groom were members of AA.

Every other wedding-- including another AA wedding I went to-- had 5 hours of an open bar. (No, there was no champagne toast.)

It's absolutely a regional thing. There's no one "right way."

Well, the Tri-State area seems to have its own very specific wedding traditions, as we know from past threads. Based on what I've seen mentioned here, and my own experiences with family in the area, bucking local custom in regard to weddings seems to be regarded as a lot more outre there than elsewhere in the country. (I think that a lot of the reason has to do with available wedding venues and the way that they are run; elsewhere in the country venues are usually not so strict about selling only pre-set "packages" for events.)

Most of the time, the phenomenon of the dry wedding is squarely a religion-related thing. You probably have never encounted it because you just don't have that many practicing Southern Baptists or hard-line evangelicals where you live. They are a distinct minority there, and if you are not part of their church circle you probably would not know them well enough to be invited to a wedding. Small minorities in any community tend to stick together socially.

I grew up in South Louisiana, which unlike most of the South is majority-Catholic. (Also, FTR, unlike a pp, I know a LOT of wealthy Cajuns: oil leases are quite lucrative.) However, there are still sizeable contingents of Baptists and evangelicals in the area, so we do frequently get invited to their weddings.

Trust me, while we expect to drink (for free) at Catholic and Jewish weddings, we know that we won't find liquor at the Baptist or evangelical weddings we are invited to. Unlike recovering alcoholics, they don't just regard avoiding alcohol as a personal choice; for devout members of these faiths, any association with alcoholic beverages is deeply offensive. Several members of my family have been involved in the wedding industry there for decades, and IME, not only will these folks not serve alcohol, but as a general rule they will try to avoid holding a wedding at any venue that holds a liquor license. To them, all of the events surrounding a wedding are very much sacred occasions, and any taint of alcohol at the reception would cause the Pastor to refuse to attend, which would be a very embarassing thing in that community. This is a part of the reason why so many of their churches have large and well-equipped fellowship halls for events like these -- the whole issue of alcohol-avoidance is simplified.

That said, I have to comment that the average S. Louisiana Catholic will usually make secondary plans for a night out AFTER attending a Baptist or evangelical wedding, especially if it has been a more formal one. These weddings seem bizarrely abbreviated to our way of thinking: most of the time the entire event, including the ceremony AND the reception, is shorter in duration than the average Nuptial Mass. If you are used to Catholic weddings, the end of a Baptist wedding tends to leave one with a strange feeling of being all dressed up with no place to go, so usually, we go somewhere else afterward and make a grand night out of it.

I also have to comment that at very casual weddings in tiny communities out in the country in the South, there is almost always a fair-amount of parking-lot drinking at weddings not held on church premises. The not-so-devout very commonly stash a cooler of beer in the trunk of the car and go outside to drink.

Also, speaking of beer, in communities where historical venues are commonly popular locations for weddings, it is not unusual for such venues to prohibit the serving of beer, normally for cleaning-related reasons. The 18th century house where I held my reception had this rule: spilled beer is very hard to remove from antique flooring and carpets, and even after you clean it up, it tends to leave an odor, especially in warm climates.

PS: I have to agree with those who say that the RECEPTION should be about the guests, although traditionally, at a wedding the Bride & Groom ARE guests, because traditionally they are not the hosts: their parents are. That said, they are by no means the ONLY guests, and I think it is the height of unpleasant self-aggrandizement to skimp on food, beverages and/or entertainment in order to spend more on the decor or the clothing of the bridal party. At a party of any kind, the comfort and enjoyment of the guests should be the paramount consideration -- it is not a performance, it is a celebration. The types of entertainment and the types of items served may bow to ethical and religious obligations (for instance, just as no thinking person would expect to be served shellfish at a Jewish wedding, it should come as no surprise not to be offered wine at a Baptist wedding) whatever *is* provided should be provided generously. Do not offer options that you cannot afford, but if you are going to invite guests to celebrate your marriage, do your best to provide generously for their enjoyment within your means. If you can't afford to do that, then have a private ceremony and just have dinner at home with those closest to you.
 
I'm honestly trying to remember how many weddings I've been to that served alcohol. Maybe 2 or 3? It just isn't part of the equation in my circle.

I don't know anyone that specifically doesn't drink, but it isn't considered necessary to have a good time. Weddings are usually more about the ceremony than about the party afterwards in my experience.
 
When I go to a wedding I take into account what it is costing the couple for my meal and drinks and make sure it is covered and then some in the presentation envelope.

I don't like cash bars and wouldn't have one at a wedding.

I would have table wine and an open bar. If you are going to have a cash bar you need to make sure that is on the invitation so that people know they need to have cash on hand.
 
We had zero alcohol at my wedding...no open bar, no cash bar. But we also had no dancing, and our reception was so fast no one would have 'needed' it. :laughing: Our ceremony and reception were held at a Victorian bed and breakfast, guests had appetizers while DH and I were taking photos, then we had dinner, cake cutting, and said goodbyes. The entire thing lasted about three hours from ceremony to the end, and it couldn't have gone any better in our mind. Our favorite music played while we ate dinner and socialized with our guests. We only invited 23 people, total, so they were clearly the people closest to us who were there to celebrate with us, not because they expected a giant party.

Most large weddings I've been to seem to be more about business than the couple. My older sister's wedding was a huge blowout with a couple hundred people, many whom she'd met once or twice or could barely name. Only a handful showed up to the ceremony (and they were ALL invited to both), the rest came just for the reception. She had an open bar, because that was the motivation for all these people who didn't really know her/her DH to come to the wedding with a gift in hand. My sister was hoping for enough gifts to almost 'break even' on the wedding costs, and the guests were hoping for enough drinks and food to make their money count...what exactly is the point of all that? I sincerely don't get it.
 


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