Calling all Princesses! (2014 Princess half marathon board)

[hollypoast]

I've got a shoe/foot question. Had my feet evaluated at a running store, the guy picked out a pair of Sauconys which are super comfy, BUT, I find that about 20+ minutes into my run my toes start to tingle, it's lik they are going dead? Anyone have this problem before?

This happens to me. Sometimes my toes go numb when I work out hard. I saw a foot dr. (I have every foot problem out there-- bunions, curled toes, etc.) and he said that the veins in my toes are shaped like olives or something like that and it's fine. They are still getting blood flow.

I know what you mean… I was worried they would fall off or something. Very strange felling. If you are worried check with your dr. to be sure. Good luck!

 

[IleneF]

I've been using multiple running shoes. I use my Merrill barefoots for some short runs and my reebok or new saucony Kinvara 3's for my long runs. Just tried the Kinvara's today for first time, they are great so far. Nice cushion, extremely light and are good for my forefoot/midfoot first gait. I support my arches with Dansko and Orthaheel shoes for everyday wear. Hoping I don't develop any problems between now and Feb. Actually running my first half in July

 

[keahgirl8]

I've got a shoe/foot question. Had my feet evaluated at a running store, the guy picked out a pair of Sauconys which are super comfy, BUT, I find that about 20+ minutes into my run my toes start to tingle, it's lik they are going dead? Anyone have this problem before?

I had the same issue. At my running store, they skipped the middle hole on my lacing, going straight up the sides there. Let me know if you need a picture. It helped, but I still had that issue. My doctor said the nerve between those two toes was irritated. He said I should put a blister/corn pad on the bottom of my foot. He told me to experiment with putting it in different places and try different shoes with different levels of stability. It seems to be getting better!

 

[keahgirl8]

They feel different. I think maybe they run a bit smaller than the 3's. The support is good, length seems the same, got the same size that I had but they feel like my foot is the wrong shape.. Sorry if this is vague.. It is hard to explain. When I first bought my 3's they were perfect from the start. I keep waiting for them to "break in" but I have at least 50 miles on them and still the same. My feet go numb after 4 or more miles.. I don't know maybe I am just being picky because the 3's felt so perfect.
Maybe try them on and see how they feel first don't just assume like I did they would be the same.

I have never worn the 3's, but the 4's do seem a little narrow. I wear them for walking and for every day, but they make my tingly toe problem worse when I run in them. I run in the Adrenaline 13's.

 

[Cripey]

Wanted to add to the shoe discussion something you may not know if you've just gone out and randomly selected a shoe to run in....you should be running in shoes that are a larger size than what you normally wear...1-1.5 sizes bigger seems to be standard,but I've heard of people being put in 2 sizes bigger even. And if you're at a running store, they will show you how to lace them so that they are snug around the heel without being too tight across the foot...you can find some lacing info online too if you Google it. Just another tip

 

[JessM]

I've got a shoe/foot question. Had my feet evaluated at a running store, the guy picked out a pair of Sauconys which are super comfy, BUT, I find that about 20+ minutes into my run my toes start to tingle, it's lik they are going dead? Anyone have this problem before?

I've had this issue before too. The guy at my running store asked me about it before I even brought it up because he saw that I put a lot of pressure on the balls of my feet while doing my foot scan.

 

[LoveMyMoos]

All these posts on running shoes has really given me a lot to think about! There was nothing very scientific about the way I picked my current Asics...just pulled them off the shelf at Kohls and walked around a bit. They've been super comfie, BUT I had a really terrible hip flexor strain. Could the shoes have contributed?



Maybe I should hit the running store!

Aimee

They definitely could have contributed. I've put on new shoes, started hurting immediately with my first run in them, and had the issue get worse, until I got out of the shoes and immediately the issue was resolved. It's interesting how complicated shoes can be lol. On a side note, the best shoes I've run in were ones I ordered from Macy's, just for fun, because I liked the way they looked. I bought the Asics Gel Tri Noosa 7s last summer and never had a single issue in them. I've now been to two different running stores and been fitted, put in two different shoes, and ended up with problems each time. I went back to finding my own shoes because clearly I'm better at this It's trial and error for a lot of people, myself included. Once you find shoes that work well, buy multiple pairs lol.

 

[PrincessV]

Once you find shoes that work well, buy multiple pairs lol.

For sure! I'm not a fan of the remodel on the Brooks PureFlow 2, so I loaded up on a couple pairs of the original PureFlow. Bonus, they were almost half price.

 

[AimKo]

Thanks for all the helpful input on shoes! What a great discussion.

I went to the running store yesterday. It was really eye-opening. I watched the analysis and I have a good heel strike, then on the right I roll to my pinkie toe, transition weight across the pad of my foot and end up pushing off with the big right toe. My right side stride is totally different from the left. The fellow there says that is likely contributing to my hip pain...all that push pull! I was so grateful for some insight that I almost cried

So, I got fitted for a new pair of Brooks Revenna 4...can't compare them to the 3, but I really like the fit.

He also put me in a full size larger then I usually would pick for myself!

AND I got ortho inserts...hopefully the combo of these corrections gets me going properly!!

I also ordered some KT tape to see if I can get a little more support across the right hip flexor.

I've got my first 10k on Mother's Day....I'm really hoping I can pull it off! I've been rehabing for 3 weeks!

Aimee

 

[AimKo]

Wanted to add to the shoe discussion something you may not know if you've just gone out and randomly selected a shoe to run in....you should be running in shoes that are a larger size than what you normally wear...1-1.5 sizes bigger seems to be standard,but I've heard of people being put in 2 sizes bigger even. And if you're at a running store, they will show you how to lace them so that they are snug around the heel without being too tight across the foot...you can find some lacing info online too if you Google it. Just another tip

So funny you would say this!...I just got professionally fitted yesterday. I've worn a size 7 or maybe 7.5 my entire adult life--- the guy yesterday insisted I was really a size 8.5!

Aimee

 

[hpygrll]

Where is information located on submitting proof of time? Meaning, is there a certain distance race you have to run prior to the half to be able to use it to submit?

Thank you!
Jenny

 

[AimKo]

Where is information located on submitting proof of time? Meaning, is there a certain distance race you have to run prior to the half to be able to use it to submit?

Thank you!
Jenny

Jenny

If you are submitting a proof of time, it has to be a minimum of 10k...so 5k's won't work.

Aimee

 

[Cripey]

So funny you would say this!...I just got professionally fitted yesterday. I've worn a size 7 or maybe 7.5 my entire adult life--- the guy yesterday insisted I was really a size 8.5!

Aimee

me too...always worn 7.5, but wear 8.5 in running shoes. and honestly, since I've been running the last couple of years, I've started to buy more regular shoes in size 8. I don't know if I'm just getting more used to a looser feel or if my feet spread from running! One guy tried to put me in a 9 even for a pair of running shoes, but that was just way too big no matter how he tied them. I REALLY want some new shoes now

 

[hpygrll]

Thanks Aimee!

Easy enough!
Jenny

 

[keahgirl8]

So funny you would say this!...I just got professionally fitted yesterday. I've worn a size 7 or maybe 7.5 my entire adult life--- the guy yesterday insisted I was really a size 8.5!

Aimee

I have worn an 11 my whole adult life. A year ago, when I was fitted for the first time, they said I wore a 12 wide. It worked for a while, but over 100 pounds down, I am now an 11.5 medium!

 

[Fire14]

He all fellow princesses. I and my BFF are planning on doing 5k. She is going to run walk it, I'm doing walk. Excited to have girls only trip.

 

[annmarieda]

SO MUCH SAD NEWS ALL IN ONE DAY! I'm really sorry to hear you two won't be at PHM/GSC next year. But it's nice that you both still have other runDisney events to look forward to for 2014! And I'm super impressed (and glad!) that you're gonna be able to stay and hangout on this board without getting all sad about sitting out the 2014 PHM! I don't think I could do that! After about 2 days of reading other people's posts I'd probably be desperately coming up with ways to get PHM back in my plans!

(....I'm secretly hoping this might happen for both of you!!)

I secretly wish I could fit it in...and you are right, a couple days of reading and I feel the urge to "figure out a way" BUT I know it will not happen. Time, energy and money limit me to just the trip in January. If I lived locally I would totally be doing it. However, to fly from the west coast is just a pain...

As for staying here... well, you all are just too nice to leave. AND there is such good topics that are brought up!!! I can live vicariously if nothing else.

It's not a flat rate but a percentage. Think it was like $70 active.com fee when I registered for the Dopey.

That makes sense, but on the $70 active fee!!!

Is there anywhere that lists corrals and their qualifying times? I assume it changes year to year, but is there a general range for the corrals? And how many are there? I won't be in the front couple I'm sure, but I'd like to know how fast I have to get avoid being in the last couple. My best 5k was just under 27 minutes, so 9ish minutes a mile, but I have no idea how ill hold up at longer distances. The most I've run is four miles and that was closer to 10/mile. I fear it'll keep going up as I add distance. I'd like a goal to aim for. I want to enjoy the experience and take pictures, it will be my first half, so anything will be a PR!!! But the earlier I start I hope the more time Ill have to savor the experience. I'm also running the PHM with my faster little sister, so clearly I need to keep up with her.

I am sure it has been mentioned...or you know, but in case not... just know that you have to submit a 10k time and that a 5k won't work.

Multiple shoes is a good idea from what I've been told and a rule I follow myself. I normally have 3 pair on rotation...one pair for cross training, one pair for short runs and another for long runs. My long run pair is always the newest with fewest miles and are the ones I use on race day as well. Once those get up around 150-200 miles, I get a new pair...move the 150-200 milers down to short run shoes and move the short run shoes down to either cross train in for a bit or save them in my closet for a future mud or color run. Works for me...I'm a card-carrying shoe-aholic anyway and not looking to reform anytime soon

I always love your shoe input! I was begining to feel like I need to replace my shoes that I "just" got. Just being before the phm this year. However, I have a good 200 + miles on them...and I was thinking of doing just what you suggested. Not completely retiring them.. but changing them in my rotation to my shorter runs and ultimately use them in a color run. (what happens to shoes in those? Do they get ruined? )

Yeah, not gonna happen for me, I'm afraid... unless I hit the lottery

I'm strangely not feeling that sad about it. I sort of feel like things are falling into the places they need to be for me, y'know? I may consider just the 10K, though - we'll see...

I am with you... not unless I hit the lottery.. (or a really good flight deal) But also like you I am getting more excited about the Donald and the time of year that it will be. I mean? When do the Christmas decorations come down? Not more than a week before, right?

Here's what we got for 2013:

Elite: <1:30
A: <2:15
B: <2:30
C: <2:45
D: <2:50
E: <3:00
F: 3:00
G: <3:25
H: no time - I assume this was for anyone estimating a finish beyond 3:25 and/or no time entered at all

AND even if someone decides to take your submitted race time and calculate your half with it... they can CHOOSE to put your finish time at 2:30..thus placing you in C rather than B. (even though per any race predictor calculator would put your finish earlier) true story... happened to me. And guess what? I DID finish before 2:30! However, to his credit the rundisney rep took into consideration that it was my first half... and while the time between October and February may have slowed some people in their training, it didn't slow me... and how was he to know that?

SHOES!!!

Let's see if, from memory, I can recall every shoe I've tried in the past year...
Mizuno Wave Nexus
Mizuno Wave Creation
Mizuno Wave Rider
Mizuno Wave Inspire
Asics Nimbus
Nike Free Run
Nike Lunar Glide
Altra Intuition
Altra Torin
Brooks Adrenaline
Brooks Ghost
Newton Lady Isaac S

Those are just the ones I tried... and didn't keep. Thank all that is good in this world for Road Runner Sports online and its VIP 90-day trial program.

What I'm happily wearing now:
Brooks PureFlow
Brooks PureConnect 2
Mizuno Wave Evo Cursoris

Thanks to being fitted into stability shoes, coupled with our very steeply canted roadways and weak-ish glutes, I developed a raging case of IT Band Syndrome last summer. I'm just now getting back to higher mileage without pain. All I can say is "know thy body" - which I realize is hard as a new runner. But think about the rest of your lifestyle if the running part is new... do you normally wear high heels? Thick-soled sneakers? Super supportive sandals? Share that with your fitter and be clear about what types of non-running shoes feel best. If they know what they're doing, it'll help.

In my case, I had the ill luck of being fit by someone who took one look at my very flexible arches, assumed I was new to on-your-feet exercise in general because I reported pretty low weekly mileage, and never bothered to find out more. In fact, I've been walking and doing light running for years, just not formally training for anything, spent the years in which my body was growing on my toes in ballet, and pretty much live in ballet flats, Chuck Taylors and flip flops. What I needed was not a big, supportive shoe that tweaked my entire leg out of the position in which my muscles have already developed, but a more minimalist option with a low heel, some cushion and a narrow, supportive heel.

For those struggling with finding the right shoe, find a store with a very liberal return policy and keep trying until it feels just right. I promise, there really will be one!

That is a LOT of shoes. I thought I was bad. I think I tried 7. Like you I was told I needed stability. Like you...that stability caused me to have an injury. I was very picky though...and kept going back and ultimately they figured maybe I should try a minimalist shoe. Been in them ever since. My injury (peroneal tendonitis) made it pretty easy stability was not right for me...since that kind of injury is caused by supinating... NOT overpronating. So I agree with you, you have to know thy self!! and just because it might appear that stability is the right shoe...it might not be. I am a barefoot girl...always have been.

I've got a shoe/foot question. Had my feet evaluated at a running store, the guy picked out a pair of Sauconys which are super comfy, BUT, I find that about 20+ minutes into my run my toes start to tingle, it's lik they are going dead? Anyone have this problem before?

As a lot of people mentioned... could be the lacing. I definitly have found it helpful to lace a different way.

Here is a good site that shoes a picture and reason for each type of lacing.

I've been using multiple running shoes. I use my Merrill barefoots for some short runs and my reebok or new saucony Kinvara 3's for my long runs. Just tried the Kinvara's today for first time, they are great so far. Nice cushion, extremely light and are good for my forefoot/midfoot first gait. I support my arches with Dansko and Orthaheel shoes for everyday wear. Hoping I don't develop any problems between now and Feb. Actually running my first half in July

Curioius... what kind of reebok? I was just looking at some reviews of a kind that I came across...

For sure! I'm not a fan of the remodel on the Brooks PureFlow 2, so I loaded up on a couple pairs of the original PureFlow. Bonus, they were almost half price.

Oh no! I think it might have been you that encouraged me to go to the pureflow in the first place. Maybe the 2 won't work so well for me? Well... I should look at the sales on the old ones... Not the end of the world... I love to shoe shop.

 

[Cripey]

I always love your shoe input! I was begining to feel like I need to replace my shoes that I "just" got. Just being before the phm this year. However, I have a good 200 + miles on them...and I was thinking of doing just what you suggested. Not completely retiring them.. but changing them in my rotation to my shorter runs and ultimately use them in a color run. (what happens to shoes in those? Do they get ruined? )

yeah, pretty much...but it may depend on where you choose to run and how excited the color-bombers are. They say if you run down the middle then you won't get as much color...when I ran one, we actually paused in front of the color throwers just to get more So yeah, they were pretty much ruined! Alot of times, mud runs will have a shoe donation pile where you can ditch your shoes if you want...they clean them up and donate them supposedly...just remember to bring some flip flops or something to put on if you're planning to toss yours. The color run I did didn't have a donation pile...or if they did, I never saw it, so I just ended up tossing mine...they were a really old pair though...I think probably the second pair of running shoes I ever bought.

 

[annmarieda]

yeah, pretty much...but it may depend on where you choose to run and how excited the color-bombers are. They say if you run down the middle then you won't get as much color...when I ran one, we actually paused in front of the color throwers just to get more So yeah, they were pretty much ruined! Alot of times, mud runs will have a shoe donation pile where you can ditch your shoes if you want...they clean them up and donate them supposedly...just remember to bring some flip flops or something to put on if you're planning to toss yours. The color run I did didn't have a donation pile...or if they did, I never saw it, so I just ended up tossing mine...they were a really old pair though...I think probably the second pair of running shoes I ever bought.

but I love my shoes. I can't just toss them... Maybe I will keep them for future dirty type runs. I am such a big baby!

 

[WishingMom]

I had the same issue. At my running store, they skipped the middle hole on my lacing, going straight up the sides there. Let me know if you need a picture. It helped, but I still had that issue. My doctor said the nerve between those two toes was irritated. He said I should put a blister/corn pad on the bottom of my foot. He told me to experiment with putting it in different places and try different shoes with different levels of stability. It seems to be getting better!

A picture would be great! Heading out for a run now and have my laces a bit looser, lets see how it goes! Thanks everyone!