Bush tax cuts

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Why are people (like many republicans) saying the Bush tax cuts spurred economic growth? Look at our economy, and how it has been declining over the last several years. Is that economic growth?

I looked up Bush tax cuts on Wikipedia and here is what it says:

The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 ("JGTRRA", Pub.L. 108-27, 117 Stat. 752), was passed by the United States Congress on May 23, 2003 and signed by President Bush on May 28, 2003.
Among other provisions, the act accelerated certain tax changes passed in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, increased the exemption amount for the individual Alternative Minimum Tax, and lowered taxes of income from dividends and capital gains.
There was and is considerable controversy over who benefited from the tax cuts and whether or not they have been effective in spurring sufficient growth. Bush's supporters and proponents of lower taxes claimed that the tax cuts increased the pace of economic recovery and job creation. Critics state that the tax cuts have failed to spur growth, while increasing the budget deficit, shifting the tax burden from the rich to the middle and working classes and further increasing already high levels of inequality.[1][2][3][4][5] Before the tax cuts were signed President Bush was urged by 450 economists, including 10 Nobel Prize Laureates, in the Economists' statement opposing the Bush tax cuts not to implement his tax cuts[6]. Economists Peter Orzsag and William Gale described the Bush tax cuts as reverse government redistribution of wealth, "[shifting] the burden of taxation away from upper-income, capital-owning households and toward the wage-earning households of the lower and middle classes."[7]
The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the tax cuts would increase budget deficits by $60 billion in 2003 and by $340 billion by 2008. Supporters of the president argue that this analysis ignores the potential growth that the act could encourage. Supporters also argue that this would be further supported by analyzing the effect of the economic shock of the terrorist events of September 11, 2001. The terrorist fears, resulting reduction in travel and consumer expenditure, and increased security expenditures, they say, are a prime example of an economic cost shock, and they suggest that the recession of 2001 and 2002 would have been drastically worse had no attempts at promoting economic growth by reducing taxes been made, though there is no empirical evidence to support this claim (nor could there be). The lag between policy making and economic impact suggests the possibility to be remote.
 
What are they going to say? That the tax cuts just gave upper-class folks a break, and the economy still stinks? That's not going to enhance the President's legacy nor help get his party re-elected to Congress or the White House.
 
What are they going to say? That the tax cuts just gave upper-class folks a break, and the economy still stinks? That's not going to enhance the President's legacy nor help get his party re-elected to Congress or the White House.

I am sorry if this is a stupid question, but am I benefitting from these tax cuts but just don't realize it? We are a family with one child, last year brought in in about 122,000 gross, live in NJ. Am I one of these people benefitting and am just completely oblivious?

Thanks.
 
I didn't notice a difference either.....I still get whacked with the AMT. We're not in the highest bracket (maybe 3rd or 4th highest??).

Actually....I lied. I DID notice that our federal taxes went down this year and I think the year prior. By about $1.00 a paycheck! I remember asking DH why he got about $1.00 more and looked at the stub and, sure enough, federal taxes were what went lower.

Is that the Bush tax cut? :confused3

In any event.....I'm not a fan of taxes, so I'm for any cuts. I can dream that someday I'll be in that bracket. :cloud9:
 

I must be in a much lower tax bracket. My health insurance went up just over 10 dollars a paycheck, but the check is about 2 dollars more than last year. :thumbsup2 So my taxes went down about 12 dollars a paycheck. Not a lot, but every bit helps :goodvibes
 
$1 or even $12 a paycheck is definitely not worth voting another republican in office. When/if you start making 600k and more a year, then maybe vote to preserve your small fortune, but right now I'd say it's not at all in our best interests, as middle class.
 
I'll vote for a Republican because I certainly don't want my taxes to go UP. I can't afford that.

I know they all "claim" they're going to raise taxes on the "wealthy", but who is that? Is that the person in NYC making $95,000? Is that the person in St. Louis making $65,000? Is that YOU and you just don't know it?

I'll take my dollar because the alternative could potentially COST me a lot more.
 
I didn't know the economy was in such poor shape! But, then again, I don't blindly listen to CNN and the left-wing political falsehoods.

Let's see... unemployment's pretty darned low, very low interest rates, people are spending like crazy, more people own homes than ever, almost everyone has at least 1 car, 1 TV, cell phones, computer, the stock market is near all-time highs... (and don't tell me stories about someone you know losing their job, or being foreclosed, etc. The OVERALL economy is pretty darned good - there are ALWAYS individual circumstances, regardless of how good or bad an economy is)

Damn, you guys on the left are pretty hard to please, aren't you?!?

Just think how great the economy would be if George Bush (and the current Congress) didn't spend like drunken sailors. I guess that's why both of their approval ratings are so dismal - GWBush around 33% and the Democratic controlled Congress around 22%.
 
Why are people (like many republicans) saying the Bush tax cuts spurred economic growth? Look at our economy, and how it has been declining over the last several years. Is that economic growth?

I looked up Bush tax cuts on Wikipedia and here is what it says:

uh, you do realize we were heading for a recession in 02, yes? A recession that never came thanks to these tax cuts.
 
So if less taxes hurt the economy, what would more taxes do?
 
I must be in a much lower tax bracket. My health insurance went up just over 10 dollars a paycheck, but the check is about 2 dollars more than last year. :thumbsup2 So my taxes went down about 12 dollars a paycheck. Not a lot, but every bit helps :goodvibes

Well, my federal taxes did go down-BUT my property taxes went up $700 this year alone, NJ added additional "fees" to vehicle registration, real estate transactions and other things to make up the shortfall from the loss of federal funding. Then, there's also the huge increase in gas prices, energy prices and food prices that have also completely offset the few dollars I got.

The only thing that's "trickling down" on me is higher costs for just about everything.
 
My question is, who is benefitting from the tax cuts? What income brackets? I mean in a meaningful way - not a few dollars like the previous posters. It's a simple question.

Is it only those who make a lot in dividends and capital gains?
 
I didn't know the economy was in such poor shape! But, then again, I don't blindly listen to CNN and the left-wing political falsehoods.

So where do you blindly get your info from?:confused3
 
Although my income has increased very little the last few years, I know my federal taxes have decreased. In 2000, the tax on an AGI of $75K was $15,307; in 2006, that same AGI would requires taxes of $11,874. IMO, that is a significant difference. In 1999, the Republican House passed a bill to end the AMT. Unfortunately, it went no further.

Sharon
 
My question is, who is benefitting from the tax cuts? What income brackets? I mean in a meaningful way - not a few dollars like the previous posters. It's a simple question.

Is it only those who make a lot in dividends and capital gains?

I think that's the whole point-President Bush sold us all on his tax cuts because we thought we'd all benefit and it turns out that most people did not. If it's really only the top 1% as I've read-that's not a whole lot of people.
 
I didn't know the economy was in such poor shape! But, then again, I don't blindly listen to CNN and the left-wing political falsehoods.

Let's see... unemployment's pretty darned low, very low interest rates, people are spending like crazy, more people own homes than ever, almost everyone has at least 1 car, 1 TV, cell phones, computer, the stock market is near all-time highs... (and don't tell me stories about someone you know losing their job, or being foreclosed, etc. The OVERALL economy is pretty darned good - there are ALWAYS individual circumstances, regardless of how good or bad an economy is)

Damn, you guys on the left are pretty hard to please, aren't you?!?

Just think how great the economy would be if George Bush (and the current Congress) didn't spend like drunken sailors. I guess that's why both of their approval ratings are so dismal - GWBush around 33% and the Democratic controlled Congress around 22%.

It's an election year. Must focus on the negative at all costs.....

OTOH, Things are going great here. :thumbsup2
 
I guess I'm not overly concerned with WHO gets WHAT. I'm thinking of myself....and my taxes didn't go UP. If I vote for a democrat, that could be a reality. So, if someone other than me benefits, I don't care. I'm thinking of what could HURT me.

That's my consideration. I'm not willing to hurt myself with a tax increase just to stick it to some other people who got a bigger break than I did.
 
It's an election year. Must focus on the negative at all costs.....

OTOH, Things are going great here. :thumbsup2

You have to look beyond your own backyard. The people in my area aren't exactly hurting, but when I go out to MI, my home state, it is horrible there with the unemployment. Very depressed. So, just because things look good in your area and everyone is doing well, you have to open your eyes to see how other parts of the country are going.

Also, if things were so great why are they about to pass a stimulus package?
 
I guess I'm not overly concerned with WHO gets WHAT. I'm thinking of myself....and my taxes didn't go UP. If I vote for a democrat, that could be a reality. So, if someone other than me benefits, I don't care. I'm thinking of what could HURT me.

That's my consideration. I'm not willing to hurt myself with a tax increase just to stick it to some other people who got a bigger break than I did.

What makes you think the next republican won't raise taxes? I still don't understand who got the big tax cuts. Anyone?
 
It's an election year. Must focus on the negative at all costs.....

OTOH, Things are going great here. :thumbsup2

I still remember the famous Reagan question: "Are you better off now than you were 4 (or 8) years ago?"

Even if I only look at my own personal situation, I have to answer that question as "no".
 


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