Bruce Jenner special

[ronandannette]

I just watched about 45 min.....wish him/her the best
I still don't get being married so often and having all those kids, tho

I think he was living up to what was expected from him.

I still use the term him,because that what he wants to be referred to as.

I don't know much about Kris Jenner or the whole "Kardashian" family nor do I plan to do any research because I'm not really into the lives of celebrities. (And I can guarantee I will never watch any reality show based on their lives that may be forthcoming.) But if these were just regular people I knew, I would have far more compassion for the spouse that has likely had their world ripped apart by this "brave decision". I understand the point about societal expectations but ultimately Bruce Jenner drew other people into the lie that was lived and thus turned them into "collateral damage" as he now seeks to re-order his own life. I find it impossible to think of the family members and still use words like "brave or inspiring". I don't personally know any people who consider themselves transgendered but I have been very close to a situation where a closeted homosexual married a person of the opposite sex purely in order to maintain a public image. Once the gay person felt confident and empowered to "come out" (trying to choose words carefully here; not meaning to be offensive), the entire family, most especially the spouse, was devastated.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

I watched the entire interview and found him to be very sincere. Kudos to him going forward, but a couple of things I found unsettling. First his plea for privacy, yet he promotes his new show on E!

Diane also asked him what was next and he gleefully answered, more plastic surgery. It seems like he was more addicted to plastic surgery than anything else. Reminds me in many ways to Michael Jackson. He did say he wasn't currently think of any gender reassignment surgery. Understandable at his age, but I think plastic surgery would be just as risky.

 

[anniemae]

I don't know much about Kris Jenner or the whole "Kardashian" family nor do I plan to do any research because I'm not really into the lives of celebrities. (And I can guarantee I will never watch any reality show based on their lives that may be forthcoming.) But if these were just regular people I knew, I would have far more compassion for the spouse that has likely had their world ripped apart by this "brave decision". I understand the point about societal expectations but ultimately Bruce Jenner drew other people into the lie that was lived and thus turned them into "collateral damage" as he now seeks to re-order his own life. I find it impossible to think of the family members and still use words like "brave or inspiring". I don't personally know any people who consider themselves transgendered but I have been very close to a situation where a closeted homosexual married a person of the opposite sex purely in order to maintain a public image. Once the gay person felt confident and empowered to "come out" (trying to choose words carefully here; not meaning to be offensive), the entire family, most especially the spouse, was devastated.

I get that point too. But, I don't think he intentionally drew them into any sort of deception. He told each wife of his desire to dress like a woman, but even he admits that he down played it a bit. He never told them the depth of his gender crisis. Yet, he was attracted to each of his wives, it's not like he was gay pretending to be straight. He has always been attracted to women. I just think he tried his best to live his life as a man, but as he got older, he realized he needed to be true to himself. His family is amazingly supportive and all his kids were tweeting positive and supportive messages to him.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I get that point too. But, I don't think he intentionally drew them into any sort of deception. He told each wife of his desire to dress like a woman, but even he admits that he down played it a bit. He never told them the depth of his gender crisis. Yet, he was attracted to each of his wives, it's not like he was gay pretending to be straight. He has always been attracted to women. I just think he tried his best to live his life as a man, but as he got older, he realized he needed to be true to himself. His family is amazingly supportive and all his kids were tweeting positive and supportive messages to him.

Yeah but he didn't tell them until after the marriages.
I don't think the public family support means much. That's what they know they have to do. It might be different behind closed doors.

There was something off about him during the interview. I'm not talking about his desire to be a woman but more of a general way he was.

 

[Wishing on a star]

Wow... I do wish the best for him.
But, I felt like it wasn't his eye that was 'off'.
There seems to be a lot more going on here than just the transgender issue.
I thought the way he kept referring to himself as 'her' and 'we' etc... was kind of disturbing.
And, OMG, the whole 'my story thing'... I can't be the only one who saw Kelsey Poe, of The Bachelor' thing going on.
Even the same strange exaggerated facial expression that she always had on her face.
I saw a LOT of things in the interview that seemed very 'off'.

I thought Dianne Sawyer did very well.
Even though I am NOT a fan, and am glad she is not on TV/News every day.
But, OMG, looks like she about fell out of her chair and tossed her cookies when he mentioned that he leaned conservative/republican.
Woman just cannot keep her personal political hatreds in control.
It is always interesting to see who is truly non-accepting, intolerant, and judgemental.

 

[Chocolate Cake]

I wish Bruce the best. A bit strange, and it has nothing to do with being transgender. Just an odd duck. I can't put my finger on it.

I will add-Awful plastic surgery for all that money. Yikes.

 

[Astridia]

This situation reminds me of the woman who had hundreds of plastic surgeries so that she could look like Barbie. I just don't think these changes are going to make someone happier whether it's plastic surgery or gender re-identification. You still have the same problems and struggles.

 

[jrmasm]

I wish Bruce the best. A bit strange, and it has nothing to do with being transgender. Just an odd duck. I can't put my finger on it.

I will add-Awful plastic surgery for all that money. Yikes.

Did you notice how much better his older sister looked?

 

[disykat]

I thought Dianne Sawyer did very well.
Even though I am NOT a fan, and am glad she is not on TV/News every day.
But, OMG, looks like she about fell out of her chair and tossed her cookies when he mentioned that he leaned conservative/republican.
Woman just cannot keep her personal political hatreds in control.
It is always interesting to see who is truly non-accepting, intolerant, and judgemental.

I've always been a Diane Sawyer fan, but that moment disappointed me too.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Didn't watch it. What do I care about some old skier who married some divorcee and has horrible step children?

 

[mjkacmom]

Wow... I do wish the best for him.
But, I felt like it wasn't his eye that was 'off'.
There seems to be a lot more going on here than just the transgender issue.
I thought the way he kept referring to himself as 'her' and 'we' etc... was kind of disturbing.
And, OMG, the whole 'my story thing'... I can't be the only one who saw Kelsey Poe, of The Bachelor' thing going on.
Even the same strange exaggerated facial expression that she always had on her face.
I saw a LOT of things in the interview that seemed very 'off'.

I thought Dianne Sawyer did very well.
Even though I am NOT a fan, and am glad she is not on TV/News every day.
But, OMG, looks like she about fell out of her chair and tossed her cookies when he mentioned that he leaned conservative/republican.
Woman just cannot keep her personal political hatreds in control.
It is always interesting to see who is truly non-accepting, intolerant, and judgemental.

He reminded me of bi-polar folks I know during the manic phase. In so e of the clips they showed of the Kardashians, he seemed depressed.

 

[Ambear]

Yeah but he didn't tell them until after the marriages.
I don't think the public family support means much. That's what they know they have to do. It might be different behind closed doors.

There was something off about him during the interview. I'm not talking about his desire to be a woman but more of a general way he was.

I don't think the Kardashians would care about doing what "they have to do." Maybe his other kids might feel that way, but I'm very sure if any of the other clan felt upset or something about it, they would tweet it. Maybe as time goes on they may change their feelings since people are fluid and do that.

Many people going through this do have to hide it or feel they need to so they fit in and lead "normal" lives. Just take a look at all the crap about not serving gay people pizza or fixing their cars. Or the amount of transgender hate crimes. The world can still be very much against these people so I don't fault them for hiding it.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I don't think the Kardashians would care about doing what "they have to do." Maybe his other kids might feel that way, but I'm very sure if any of the other clan felt upset or something about it, they would tweet it. Maybe as time goes on they may change their feelings since people are fluid and do that.

Many people going through this do have to hide it or feel they need to so they fit in and lead "normal" lives. Just take a look at all the crap about not serving gay people pizza or fixing their cars. Or the amount of transgender hate crimes. The world can still be very much against these people so I don't fault them for hiding it.

Nobody that depends on ratings and popularity to maintain their celebrity is going to say anything negative about him.

In a way the whole thing is very emperor's new clothes.
There's something not right going on with him. He seemed odd in the interview, his plastic surgery seems like an obsession. He gave me a Michael Jackson with the creepy mannequins or Tom Cruise couch jumping vibe.
Of course nobody can cone out and question what's really going on with him because they'll get too much backlash even if it's not about him being transgender.

 

[Mizzoufan]

Didn't watch it. What do I care about some old skier who married some divorcee and has horrible step children?

He's not a skier. I guess you care enough to open a thread about him and take time to type out a response.

 

[Jennasis]

Didn't watch it. What do I care about some old skier who married some divorcee and has horrible step children?

Skier?

 

[TLSnell1981]

I watched the interview and I still can't wrap my head around it. I can't understand, why he married 3 times and had 10 children, before deciding to become a woman. It seems a bit unfair to the Jenner/Kardasian families, especially the children.

I hope they can find peace, understanding and happiness...ALL of them.

 

[SandiR]

I thought Dianne Sawyer did very well.
Even though I am NOT a fan, and am glad she is not on TV/News every day.
But, OMG, looks like she about fell out of her chair and tossed her cookies when he mentioned that he leaned conservative/republican.
Woman just cannot keep her personal political hatreds in control.
It is always interesting to see who is truly non-accepting, intolerant, and judgemental.

And I am pretty sure you're misreading Diane Sawyer. Her reaction was clearly about how reluctant many Republicans are to publicly support many LGBT issues. Therefore, it surprised her that a transgender man was a Republican. It wasn't that she was surprised that anyone could be Republican.

 

[goofinoff]

I think it would be super confusing for his small grandchildren. All of a sudden grandpa is grandma?

 

[SandiR]

I think it would be super confusing for his small grandchildren. All of a sudden grandpa is grandma?

So he should live an unhappy, dishonest life so as not to potentially confuse his grandchildren?

It's been my experience that children can be pretty accepting when they're given the chance.

 

[Ambear]

Nobody that depends on ratings and popularity to maintain their celebrity is going to say anything negative about him.

That's exactly a great way to get ratings and popularity. People say negative stuff all the time to be in the spotlight. But I don't think they'll say anything negative cause they truly aren't seeing it that way. Besides one of them did say it was hard for her but that she still supported him.