Bristol Palin announces pregnancy

[TLSnell1981]

Sorry. I understand you, maybe I didn't make it clear that I am criticizing HER choices, not your comment. As an abstinence-only gal, I think it's silly for her to essentially be saying "well, we were CLOSE ENOUGH!" And get pregnant before they got married. She also said in this most recent statement that there's a difference between being in your teens and being in your 20's. Don't 20-somethings need to understand safe *** too? Or it is ok to have unprotected *** and get pregnant as long as they can hurry up and marry soon?

Meh. Getting too political. Bottom line is she is full of it and just spinning her wheels now.

You despise the young woman and are raking her over the coals. I get it.

 

[gwynne]

You despise the young woman and are raking her over the coals. I get it.

Occasionally in life one reaps what one sows. B Palin took a little over a quarter of a million dollars to basically tell others to do as I say, not as I do. Some are going to find that okey dokey. Some are going to find that hypocritical. And some are going to think there was a ton of good charity work that could have been done with all that cash.

 

[Dizlvr]

Occasionally in life one reaps what one sows. B Palin took a little over a quarter of a million dollars to basically tell others to do as I say, not as I do. Some are going to find that okey dokey. Some are going to find that hypocritical. And some are going to think there was a ton of good charity work that could have been done with all that cash.

Who is she telling, anyone that isn't married, or teenagers? I don't follow her so I have no idea but from my understanding she is or was employed by Candies to talk to teens about abstaining from sex until marriage. I have no problem with that, she's an unwed teen mother, who better to let them know what she went through, and maybe her story make kids think they aren't ready for parenthood. Granted, she had it better than alot of teen moms out there but she turned her life into something positive for others. I'm sure it wasn't easy for her while her mother was running for prez, I'm sure you call can push your politics aside and remember the vile things said about that girl and her family during her pregnancy. Which BTW hasn't stopped, one headline I saw said something about now the question is, is the baby the ex-fiance's.
I also don't have a problem with a financially independent 24 year old engaged woman having sex and getting pregnant with her soon to be husband, she can still preach about abstaining to teens. Its like preaching to my own kids about not drinking, or partying full well knowing I did all those things at their age. So, I don't get paid, the message is the same "do as I say, not as I do" because I've been through it, and I know what can happen.

Do I think she's hypocritical, yes, but I think everyone is. They just don't think they are.

 

[mnrose]

Here's the thing though. Ms. Bristol took a pledge in 2009 (look it up if you don't believe me) that she would "guarantee" that she would not have sex until marriage. Her abstinence pledge was that ALL sex before marriage was bad. Oops.

 

[gwynne]

Here's the thing though. Ms. Bristol took a pledge in 2009 (look it up if you don't believe me) that she would "guarantee" that she would not have *** until marriage. Her abstinence pledge was that ALL *** before marriage was bad. Oops.

A grown up woman can change her mind. It wouldn't matter to me at all, except for the quarter of a million dollars. When you're cashing those kind of checks on the lecture circuit, you're going to be held to a bit of a standard. And if you do the exact opposite of what you are instructing others to do, it's going to come back to ya.
It would be a really great move if she donated the money to charity...but somehow I think that cash is long gone.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Here's the thing though. Ms. Bristol took a pledge in 2009 (look it up if you don't believe me) that she would "guarantee" that she would not have *** until marriage. Her abstinence pledge was that ALL *** before marriage was bad. Oops.

Who asked you to toss that bit of information into the discussion.

It's kind of fun watching folks twist themselves into knots trying to excuse/explain this away.

 

[Dizlvr]

Here's the thing though. Ms. Bristol took a pledge in 2009 (look it up if you don't believe me) that she would "guarantee" that she would not have *** until marriage. Her abstinence pledge was that ALL *** before marriage was bad. Oops.

6 years ago, and she had sex with the man she was planning on marrying. Its not something that I care about, I'm not the one signing her paychecks. I'll give adults room to make decisions based on their lives in the here and now, I'm not going to hold an engaged 24 year old to a pledge she mad when she was 19 about having sex. Life happens, and if Candies wants to continue to pay her for speaking about abstinence its no skin off my back.

 

[Dizlvr]

Who asked you to toss that bit of information into the discussion.

It's kind of fun watching folks twist themselves into knots trying to excuse/explain this away.

Its more fun watching folks try to make this molehill into a mountain. This isn't news, women get pregnant everyday, even women who swear they won't have sex, or won't have unprotected sex. I bet some of them even tell others not to do it either.

Just wanted to add, I think Bristol is the one that needs to keep this out of the news. She needs to focus on her pregnancy and her family, she doesn't need to keep the public informed of everything.

 

[gwynne]

6 years ago, and she had *** with the man she was planning on marrying. Its not something that I care about, I'm not the one signing her paychecks. I'll give adults room to make decisions based on their lives in the here and now, I'm not going to hold an engaged 24 year old to a pledge she mad when she was 19 about having ***. Life happens, and if Candies wants to continue to pay her for speaking about abstinence its no skin off my back.

BBM-I totally agree about giving adults room to make their own decisions. I think it is a kind, tolerant and most of all respectful way to live and let live.

 

[disneyjunkie]

6 years ago, and she had *** with the man she was planning on marrying. Its not something that I care about, I'm not the one signing her paychecks. I'll give adults room to make decisions based on their lives in the here and now, I'm not going to hold an engaged 24 year old to a pledge she mad when she was 19 about having ***. Life happens, and if Candies wants to continue to pay her for speaking about abstinence its no skin off my back.

Sigh

I wish this line of thinking applied to everyone. Plenty of adult women "one the other side" are vilified for having children out of wedlock.

A 24 year old single mom, with two baby daddies, in an urban community, would not be viewed the same way as this chick.

 

[Dizlvr]

Sigh

I wish this line of thinking applied to everyone. Plenty of adult women "one the other side" are vilified for having children out of wedlock.

A 24 year old single mom, with two baby daddies, in an urban community, would not be viewed the same way as this chick.

Sadly you are right. I guess that means its okay to vilify Bristol for something? Not really sure the point you are trying to make.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Sadly you are right. I guess that means its okay to vilify Bristol for something? Not really sure the point you are trying to make.

If having children out of wedlock (with multiple men) is something to frown upon, it shouldn't matter who the mother is. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of which side of the fence they may be on.

 

[Dizlvr]

If having children out of wedlock (with multiple men) is something to frown upon, it shouldn't matter who the mother is. Everyone should be treated the same regardless of which side of the fence they may be on.

I agree, but I don't necessarily think its something to frown upon, it depends on the circumstance. A 16 year old getting pregnant is far different than a single 24 year old financially independent woman getting pregnant. I don't care if your urban, suburban or country. But, you are right there are many that do, and that is sad.

 

[gwynne]

Sadly you are right. I guess that means its okay to vilify Bristol for something? Not really sure the point you are trying to make.

I don't think she is "vilified", I think people can't figure out why she's paid a ton of cash to advocate for a cause that doesn't work for her, personally.

Now, I would love to see her embrace something like The Power of Positive Co-Parenting. Children need to have regular contact with both mom and dad. She could hit the lecture circuit and probably have something relevant to say about how she makes co-parenting the priority in her life, and why it matters.

 

[bcla]

Sadly you are right. I guess that means its okay to vilify Bristol for something? Not really sure the point you are trying to make.

Probably that she can dish it but she can't take it. That she pontificates on abstinence before marriage and even pledges that she will do so (of course after she's already had one child). That she makes money at speaking engagements (I hear it's $10,000-14,000) where abstinence her primary topic. Probably that she doesn't really care about "the message" that she's been sending other than how it can make her money.

http://www.singlesourcespeakers.com/speakers/bristolpalin/

Bristol Palin

Travels from: Alaska

Programs: Abstinence, Conference, Fundraiser, Pro-Life, Special Event/Holiday, Women's, Youth

 

[okeydokey]

Bristol is her own worse enemy. If she didn't put it all out there, people would have nothing to talk about. But she does.

 

[Dizlvr]

You all can be bothered by her and the fact that she is paid for speaking about abstinence but it looks like she covers other subject as well. If people are willing to pay her to come and speak, just not sure why does it bother you, are you signing those checks? If she's making money doing this, obviously there are people out there who want to hear what she has to say, even knowing she has not abstained.

Anyone here ever been to one of her lectures?

ETA, she obviously knows she has disappointed people, or she wouldn't have put it on her blog. That to me doesn't sound like someone who just goes around saying things for money and doesn't care about what she actually does. But I guess you know her better than I do right?

 

[gwynne]

You all can be bothered by her and the fact that she is paid for speaking about abstinence but it looks like she covers other subject as well. If people are willing to pay her to come and speak, just not sure why does it bother you, are you signing those checks? If she's making money doing this, obviously there are people out there who want to hear what she has to say, even knowing she has not abstained.

Anyone here ever been to one of her lectures?

Nope. I wouldn't be part of a group that would happily part with hard earned money (I am talking about her speaker fees) to listen to her discuss what's good for others, just not her.
Nothing wrong with those who do pay her to discuss varies theories and thoughts on teen life.

I still think she'd do best discussing something that is relatable to her life. How about offering to talk about her commitment to co-parenting for her children? She will be doing this for the rest of her life. Communication, understanding, compromise, putting the children first. Just a thought.

 

[disneyjunkie]

You all can be bothered by her and the fact that she is paid for speaking about abstinence but it looks like she covers other subject as well. If people are willing to pay her to come and speak, just not sure why does it bother you, are you signing those checks? If she's making money doing this, obviously there are people out there who want to hear what she has to say, even knowing she has not abstained.

Anyone here ever been to one of her lectures?

ETA, she obviously knows she has disappointed people, or she wouldn't have put it on her blog. That to me doesn't sound like someone who just goes around saying things for money and doesn't care about what she actually does. But I guess you know her better than I do right?

I figure that blog post was nothing more than a CYA (cover your ***)or KTMC(keep the money coming)move.

 

[TLSnell1981]

I can't help but giggle. The way some choose to ridicule a young woman for getting pregnant. She's vilified for having values. Bristol fell short, like soooo many do. I applaud her for taking responsibility for her actions. She didn't discard her children. Instead, Bristol is loving and caring for them.