Brazilian Tour Groups?

[sassyat30]

Another thing I'd like to help others notice-in S. AMerica life is extremely hard, they would love to have 1/8th of the luxury and quality of life we enjoy-even the working class here enjoys so many comforts, life is just easier by far. THey bring hardships, and struggles and many times grow up around opression and dismay. The fact that they keep their joy regardless, and sing loud and chant when having the opportunity of a lifetime to be at WDW, even if we find it innapropiate, I think we should try to find in ourselves to learn to accept their sense of expression-and understand what's behind the yelling/chanting/passion and loudness. Life there is HARD, I know, I lived it and witnessed it first hand for over 15yrs.

Uh, I would wager a guess that 95% of the Brazilian tour groups that come to WDW are *not* hurting for money.

It seems to be a rite of passage of the wealthy in the country to send their teenagers to WDW for a week or two.

I wouldn't feel too sorry for the Brazilians you see there.

 

[overit]

Uh, I would wager a guess that 95% of the Brazilian tour groups that come to WDW are *not* hurting for money.

It seems to be a rite of passage of the wealthy in the country to send their teenagers to WDW for a week or two.

I wouldn't feel too sorry for the Brazilians you see there.

Could be, as it could be their parents saved up a very long time to do this for them (as I know a lot of people in Argentina did). A lot of S. American countries have a tendency to be somewhat too concerned with "image"...and if living up to that image and impressing the neighbors means sending the kids to Disney even if they really can't afford it, they'll find a way.

It's just like with clothing-in ARgentina you would have teens willing to eat fideos (spaghetti) for a month but buy me that $100 pair of jeans.

Regardless of if they have the money or not-you live, breath adn see poverty around you, if not you, your best friend, your cousin, your grandparents, your neighbors, etc.....there is much more despair and frustrations and harships there-some which we can never IMAGINE. We are actually a very blessed and somewhat sheltered culture for the hardships endured away from our own backyards. Of course we have poverty issues here, but you can't compare the hardships in these countries to our own. So yeah, in a way, even those kids that could afford to come up...I can really sympathize with them in all their obnoxious yelling glory-I lived it, I know the small things that bring joy to them (and perhaps annoyance for us).

 

[Luv4Disney]

When do they tend to be in the World?

 

[civileng68]

Overally they are jerks, plain and simple. I won't go as far as to say that every one of them are the same, because I haven't met every one of them, but overall I think they are pretty much jerks.

It's not just being a teenager. When I was a teenager, my parents taught me how to act and in public I acted a certain way.

Let me tell you a story. July 4, 2007, Epcot. I film various things for my personal website and had arrived at my location at approximately 6:00 for a 10:00 showing of Illuminations. I was the first person there, followed shortly by several other site owners who were there doing the same thing. It was fun hanging out, talking to people, and just relaxing. We got our spot so that we could have a nice view of the show.

Don't you know at 9:50, just before the show begins, one of those Brazilian groupies puts their stupid flag up in the air and shortly after about 60 teenagers come barrelling into the area, packing it beyond safe occupation levels in that area (think that the area is already packed because it's July 4 and now 60 or so more just come in).

Don't you also know that they all stand, and all stand in the way of every one of the other of us, and to this day, I still watch my video and despise them.

Oh yeah, lets also state that they kept their flags up, not caring to respect the rest of us, until a guy near us who was visiting from Los Angeles and it was his first time at WDW (he's a regular at DL) very boldly told them to put the flags down.

 

[overit]

Well, lol I think we are all entitled to feel as we do, but the two posts above just prove my point about why we are perceived as we are-and why other cultures despise us.

 

[cgbsilver@hotmail.co]

Uh, I would wager a guess that 95% of the Brazilian tour groups that come to WDW are *not* hurting for money.

It seems to be a rite of passage of the wealthy in the country to send their teenagers to WDW for a week or two.

I wouldn't feel too sorry for the Brazilians you see there.

In general overit is right, but your point is well taken also, it is not fair to generalize. Maybe it was a huge effort on some of the parents to come up with the money to send their kids to WDW and to other it was just pocket change. I am from Dominican Republic and live in Dominican Republic, I would only send my kid in a tour to WDW if I could not afford to go as a family ever and maybe that is the case with some of these kids. We are just louder in latin america, but being loud is one thing, and trying to take advantage of others is another (for example cuting in line), I can assure that this is not what we teach our chlidren. For every 1 cutting in line there is probably 20 waiting for their turn. We also don't teach them to look down on working class people like a previous poster expressed. We tend to spoil our kids a little more, clearly, but we cherish their future and try to raise them to be happy and successful individuals and respect other people right, just like most everyone else.

 

[mickeymyfavorite]

OMG they are always there when Im there in July, there like between the 2nd an 3rd week. specially in EPCOT there are like sea of groups and when they were the same color shirts it is scary, it makes you want to run to be ahead of them your like scared to be behind them.

 

[Luv4Disney]

We're going in May, when we've always gone, and I haven't encountered them. We're planning a trip from Dec. 6-14th - I hope they're not there then or if they are, there won't be herds of them. You guys have me scared now!

 

[LuvsTinker]

Gosh - I really would have thought that people in Louisiana would know and actively promote that Mardi Gras is NOT an actual "o" fest. Granted - being in the French Quarter especially Bourbon and some of a "very few" other streets you may see this type of thing but really only at night. Bourbon is just ONE of many streets and blocks of the Quarter but it is it's most famous. If you would like to enjoy Mardi Gras (and they have lots to enjoy) you just might decide to go to almost any parade available. Uptown is wonderful. Metairie is wonderful. You will see costumes more often on Mardi Gras day (Fat Tuesday) than on any other. You can absolutely party anywhere without having to see nude body parts. You have to really GO TO the French Quarter during the late afternoon/evening to see that. Most people can go the entire Mardi Gras season without venturing into the Quarter.

We as children and my children didn't even know about the Bourbon Street revelers until they were completely grown but they have ALL enjoyed Mardi Gras and love the parades.

Now I need a king cake!

I agree!!! Stay off Bourbon Street and you don't have to be subjected to obscene stuff during Mardi Gras. Many of those doing that stuff and getting arrested are tourists.

I'll take a slice of king cake

 

[wbc99]

I just got back from DW (1-18 - 1-26) and these groups were everywhere. You could not get away from them and the parks were packed. Overall, I did not encounter any problems from them. However, it did irritate me that the group leaders would take all the groups tickets and go get Fast Passes. The group leaders would all show up to get passes (we are talking a hand full of cards) and you could sit and watch the return time get later and later.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

Mardi Gras is celebrated throughout the city and neighboring parishes (counties). If you stick with the outlying areas, and most of the "uptown" portion of the parade routes, you will rarely see a genital around (unless it's one of those plastic, fake ones), as the police are VERY strict in family areas.

Gosh - I really would have thought that people in Louisiana would know and actively promote that Mardi Gras is NOT an actual "o" fest.

I apologize, when I said New Orleans, I was speaking of the French Quarter specifically. I love Mardi Gras, we go to every parade here in Houma (9). I do promote Mardi Gras, but I recommend coming to Houma or if they are intent on going to New Orleans for a parade I recommend hitting one of the "Super Krewes" uptown I also recommend the family fest in Metairie.

 

[rwdavis2]

Well, lol I think we are all entitled to feel as we do, but the two posts above just prove my point about why we are perceived as we are-and why other cultures despise us.

I couldn't care less if other cultures despise us. If that's the case, what are they doing HERE? If they don't like us then don't visit. I don't mind people visiting our country but respect our culture just as I would respect their's when visiting their country.
Bob

 

[MzDiz]

Ya know, I wouldn't vacation in Brazil and tell them to stop shouting. Who goes on a vacation abroad and doesn't at least skim over a list of acceptable social behaviors? Three words - When in Rome.

 

[flipflop]

Our au pair is from Brazil. She is delightful and we are thankful to have found her. She wants to take her mom and brother to WDW and was looking into tours b/c they are much more reasonably priced from Brazil than booking it directly through WDW. I suggested that she come with us and they can meet us there and that DH and I will help her - the idea of her with one of those tour groups is .

 

[Brit17]

We are actually a very blessed and somewhat sheltered culture for the hardships endured away from our own backyards. Of course we have poverty issues here, but you can't compare the hardships in these countries to our own.

So yeah, in a way, even those kids that could afford to come up...I can really sympathize with them in all their obnoxious yelling glory-I lived it, I know the small things that bring joy to them (and perhaps annoyance for us).

I'm not too sure about that ... here's a brief little story ...

My DH was away on a business trip a couple of weeks ago in Dallas, Texas when he became suddenly ill ... his hotel directed him to the nearest hospital emergency room ... when he arrived, the waiting room that he could see was extremely full ... ok, not unusual, emergency room waiting rooms are usually like that ... when he finally found a seat, he then noticed that there was not only one waiting room that was full but there were at least two more waiting rooms, that he could see, that were exactly the same way ... he estimated that there must have been about 200 people waiting for medical attention ... he started talking to a very nice woman next to him who explained that this particular hospital was a community/county hospital and most, if not all, of the people waiting there had no medical insurance ... she herself had already been waiting for 12 hours to be seen by a doctor/nurse... it took two hours for her to just register her name ... she was expecting to wait for at least another 6 hours before being seen by a doctor ... my DH and his business associate, who was there with him, we're so saddened by what they were seeing and hearing ... the young woman explained that the people there were used to these long waits because without insurance, there was no other way they could get the medical help they needed ... she then suggested to my DH that he go to another emergency room down the road where they took fewer patients without insurance ... my DH and his associate, two big, strong men, left in tears ...

Now I'm not saying that other countries don't have hardships, etc., but please do not downplay the hardships and struggles that are faced by MANY men, woman and children in this country also ... I could go into many more examples of what actually goes on in our "backyards", as I'm sure many of you can, but I would be writing for days ... so with all do respect, and I'm not being sarcastic, but maybe you should get out a little more in your "backyard" here in the US ...

But regardless of hardships, struggles, whatever reason, people should know how to behave and respect others around them always ... period.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

Another thing I'd like to help others notice-in S. AMerica life is extremely hard, they would love to have 1/8th of the luxury and quality of life we enjoy-even the working class here enjoys so many comforts, life is just easier by far. THey bring hardships, and struggles and many times grow up around opression and dismay. The fact that they keep their joy regardless, and sing loud and chant when having the opportunity of a lifetime to be at WDW, even if we find it innapropiate, I think we should try to find in ourselves to learn to accept their sense of expression-and understand what's behind the yelling/chanting/passion and loudness. Life there is HARD, I know, I lived it and witnessed it first hand for over 15yrs.

I have a really hard time believing that these kids whose parents can afford a week or more vacation for their children out of the country have a hard life. Sorry, don't buy it. I'm sure there are MANY folks from SAmerica that have extremely hard lives, my guess, it's not these kids. I never vacationed out of the country until I was an adult, and many many many Americans here in the good ol USA can't afford a trip to Disney even though it is a 5 hour drive away.

I also think a Football stadium is a completely different atmosphere than the queue for Test Track. I'm glad they are excited, they just don't have to be excited in my ear.

 

[overit]

Well, I don't want this to get political or discuss what I do or do not know about our own backyard-I'm aware of our hardships.

As well, I like this board and respect that we will all have very different opinions, and I hope not to be blasted for showing a different perspective and opinion about this and hoping to promote a little tolerance for other cultures. That's all.

I'll bow out and stick to the happy informational posts, of which I'm getting tons of great advice.

Chau!

 

[luvsJack]

Now I'm not saying that other countries don't have hardships, etc., but please do not downplay the hardships and struggles that are faced by MANY men, woman and children in this country also ... .

Anyone that has worked in other countries can tell you that the poorest people in the US have it better than many around the world.

I have no idea what life is like for these teens nor do I believe I will try and judge it by the fact they are going to disney. How many of us will save and scrimp for years to give something special to our kids?

 

[blessedby3]

We encountered these tour groups during our trip Jan 11-21. I felt like they definately bumped up our wait times in lines as they groups were so big. They were quite rowdy and loud. At Fantasmic they were standing up waving their arms and shouting to other groups not seated near them. I had heard of these huge groups, but didnt realize they would be there during our time. How I missed that after staying on these boards constantly is beyond me. I need to pay closer attention!!!

 

[civileng68]

Hey! I dont feel bad for them. cmon Overit. I see your a sympathetic and probably VERY nice individual for having the mindset you do but I don't buy it one bit.

I live just 3 hours from Walt Disney World and you know what? Every kid in that tour group is younger than I ever was when I went to Disney. I didnt go to Disney for the FIRST TIME until 2002, when I was 22 years old! Why? My parents were BROKE and couldn't afford to. My mom used to cry that she couldn't give me the things that she wanted me to have at times, like going to see Mickey Mouse. I used to watch MM on TV and tell my parents I wanted to go to WDW. Looking back I realize how bad it must have made my parents feel.

I have been overseas on missions trips to the worst areas (I could tell you things about Nassau that would blow your mind) and can say that other areas do have it badly. However, there are areas in the US that you have no idea about. You really haven't seen them to understand. We're not talking about a slum, we're talking about poverty stricken areas where kids don't have a chance.

Back to the point though, which has nothing to do with money, these groups are highly rude and obnoxious. Now, I think anyone could understand that people probably don't want that when on vacation.