Brasilian tour groups?

[lugnut33]

I don't even know how to feel about that video, I think you invalidate any points about rudeness when you punctuate your sentences with the 'f word'...

Yeah, but he was saying it with hushed undertones.

 

[TheHundredth]

if summer trips are a must for you like they are with my family, I'd say avoid July as that's when we've had the most trouble with them.

We're trying early summer this year in hopes we wont have another bad experience with them.

I understand national pride, but screaming your national anthem while in the queue for The Great Movie Ride while my family and I are trying to have family conversation like everyone else and trying to watch the commercials for our favorite scene, IS NOT cool AT ALL.

They just plug up walk ways and are incredibly inconvenient and loud. And they make small eateries a nightmare...

No prejudice. But they're my LEAST favorite thing at Disney

 

[GiJohnsGirl]

I do have a problem with how loud and obnoxious they can be. As a student of cultural anthropology, I believe that a crash course in what/what is not appropriate for theme parks would be of benefit. I understand the excitement of going to Disney World but....

I think that would be great if some of the tour guides actually spoke english. My husband and I were doing baby swap and I was waiting with a couple of BTG guides. Well, a lady was trying her hardest to convey that I had a cute baby(the message was finally received). I don't expect any foreign tour group to speak any english except for maybe "help" , "where is the bathroom?", etc. I do however expect their tour guides to be able to communicate. If you can barely communicate in the language of the place your visiting how are you supposed to guide 40+ people successfully? Your job is to be able to make the groups travel easy and you can't even do that.

 

[ScotsMinnie]

I have traveled to many different countries many of which I did not know the language and found communicating difficult.

However before going you do make an effort to at least start to know some of the language. A basic please, thank you, yes and no is always a good start. Even if you don't know the language body language is always a give away. It doesnt take a genius to figure out someone is not happy with you when you are cutting the line.

When you travel abroad it is also good to check on the customs of that country. For example I have been places where you have to cover your arms and legs, or your hair. You check and then respect the local customs. Before traveling to the US I make sure I fully understand the tip system so as not to offend.

And to be fair queueing is not just an American thing. I have stood in lines all round the world. Its not that alien a concept surely.

 

[ppony]

Ok, here's what the Brits think of Americans in WDW (warning on link for swearing, don't click if you are offended by swearing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqO3SNXJYsw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Apparently we are rude and obnoxious.

I'm not sure I'm going to watch the video. I can't now w/ my kids around... but I DID want to say...to be fair (to US in the States ) a 200 year old grudge is hard to get rid of. Just sayin' they aren't exactly UNbiased.

And to be real though I have MANY friends and customers in the UK who are completely delightful. there are a few (very very few) that seem to get over some superiority complex though. Just MY experience in my business which deal w/ people worldwide on a personal level.

And as Ferb's dad says "That's what I like about you Americans, you're just like big fun children!" Or something like that.

 

[Disney/Universal Fan]

I was just in the 'World' from 1/17 - 1/21/12. I lost track of how many different Brazilian groups we saw. They all have their own shirts, vests, and flags to differentiate each group.

Yes - they travel in hoards and we always made sure we were ahead of them in a line if possible.

Honestly - we didn't see any chanting or singing, and most were pretty well behaved.

What really bothered me was that their group leaders would run ahead and get 50 - 70 fast passes at a clip. Not that they aren't entitled to the fastpasses - but it closed out the popular rides, specifically TSM, by 10:30am. That left nothing for the average family coming into the park. JMO

I just can't agree with a lot of the remarks about the tour groups, whether they are Brazilian or not. They pay their money and buy their tickets,the same as me. The comment about them having their own shirts is ridiculous. I sometimes travel alone and I have my own shirt. As far as the group leader running ahead and getting 50-70 fast passes at a clip, would you rather that they go separately and get in line and get them individually? That would take a lot longer than if one person gets them all at once. I am sorry, the Brazilian tour groups have just as much a right to be at the parks as the cheerleaders, Pop Warner football teams, conventioners, families, and yes, even single travelers. Where do you draw the line, a familiy of five is ok, but a family of eight is a large group? I am sure this post will be removed, as one of my earlier posts was removed, but I guess I just wanted to ventagain. I guess, when I go to Disney next time, I will borrow a shirt from my neighbor, so I don't have to wear my own shrt.

 

[minnie mum]

I just can't agree with a lot of the remarks about the tour groups, whether they are Brazilian or not. They pay their money and buy their tickets,the same as me. The comment about them having their own shirts is ridiculous. I sometimes travel alone and I have my own shirt. As far as the group leader running ahead and getting 50-70 fast passes at a clip, would you rather that they go separately and get in line and get them individually? That would take a lot longer than if one person gets them all at once. I am sorry, the Brazilian tour groups have just as much a right to be at the parks as the cheerleaders, Pop Warner football teams, conventioners, families, and yes, even single travelers. Where do you draw the line, a familiy of five is ok, but a family of eight is a large group? I am sure this post will be removed, as one of my earlier posts was removed, but I guess I just wanted to ventagain. I guess, when I go to Disney next time, I will borrow a shirt from my neighbor, so I don't have to wear my own shrt.

I don't usually have difficulty understanding a post, or at the very least deducing what the poster is trying to communicate. But I had to read yours 3 times before I could take it all in. REALLY?? Did you actually take the time to read the previous posts in their entirety, or were you just vaguely scanning through them?

Regarding shirts: so glad to know that you actually own your own shirts. But that has absolutely nothing to do with what that particular poster was saying. He/she was noting the fact that a lot of the tour groups had IDENTICAL shirts. As in the same style and color of shirt. I really cannot see how this could have been misconstrued. But, perhaps, English is not your first language and you were having difficulty with the wording?

And aside from the fastpass issue, the number of people in the group is NOT the primary source of displeasure amongst the rest of us. Nor is their nationality. It is their behaviour that is our major concern. Of course they have as much right to be in the parks as anyone else. Who has said otherwise? But when they are in the park they can refrain from yelling, chanting, line jumping, jostling, and generally running rampant to the detriment of the other guests.

And finally, I can't see why your post would be removed from this thread. It will probably be framed and hung up as an example to others of what not to post.

 

[ppony]

I don't usually have difficulty understanding a post, or at the very least deducing what the poster is trying to communicate. But I had to read yours 3 times before I could take it all in. REALLY?? Did you actually take the time to read the previous posts in their entirety, or were you just vaguely scanning through them?

I hadn't even bothered to read it until you pointed it out MM

Wow. Frightening thought processes there. With the shirts....really??? REALLY???? On what planet did that make ANY sense?

W/ respect to one person get in in line to get FPs or many. Um, YEAH, I'd personally prefer to see several people in line because then it's apples to apples. Like in line at a grocery store. You choose the line that has either fewer people in it and/or has less stuff in their carts. I'd MUCH rather get in line behind 10 people w/ 5 items in their carts than the ONE person with a train of 5 carts loaded to the gills! When you SEE what you're dealing with, your choice of what line to get in is more informed. You can't see that in FP lines unfortunately.

 

[Disney/Universal Fan]

I don't usually have difficulty understanding a post, or at the very least deducing what the poster is trying to communicate. But I had to read yours 3 times before I could take it all in. REALLY?? Did you actually take the time to read the previous posts in their entirety, or were you just vaguely scanning through them?

Regarding shirts: so glad to know that you actually own your own shirts. But that has absolutely nothing to do with what that particular poster was saying. He/she was noting the fact that a lot of the tour groups had IDENTICAL shirts. As in the same style and color of shirt. I really cannot see how this could have been misconstrued. But, perhaps, English is not your first language and you were having difficulty with the wording?

And aside from the fastpass issue, the number of people in the group is NOT the primary source of displeasure amongst the rest of us. Nor is their nationality. It is their behaviour that is our major concern. Of course they have as much right to be in the parks as anyone else. Who has said otherwise? But when they are in the park they can refrain from yelling, chanting, line jumping, jostling, and generally running rampant to the detriment of the other guests.

And finally, I can't see why your post would be removed from this thread. It will probably be framed and hung up as an example to others of what not to post.

Thanks, Minnie Mum, for your astute observations and pointing out the fact that English may not be my first language, which by the way, it is. I have seen a few families wear identical shirts, and still don't understand what that has to do with anything. I am an annual passholder and go to WDW about once a month. I have NEVER seen any Brazilian Tour Groups escorted out of the parks for bad behavior, however, I have seen others removed because of line jumping and otherwise bad behavior. I just can't understand why the BTG's are always singled out, and then why others have to chastise the people that have a different view than some of the narrow-minded people that make remarks such as yours. And hopefully, they do frame my post and hang it up as an example. Then they can frame your post and hang it below mine.....exactly where it belongs.

 

[goofy4tink]

The Brazilian kids pretend not to understand English and ignore you and the home grown kids curse you, then ignore you. What's the real difference?



Yeah. United States citizens never do any of that stuff. Littering? Why we in the U.S. would NEVER do any of that. I wonder where all the litter in every U.S. city comes from? Maybe it all blows in when we get a stiff breeze from the south. Blows it all in from Brazil. Yeah that's it.

Did I say Americans are perfect? Nope, don't think so. But, here's the difference. Take one family of 4 or 5, and have them leave their counter service table full of 'leavings'. Then, compare that to a group of 30, taking up multiple tables, leaving those tables for someone else to clean up. Quite a difference.

Goofy4Tink,

I think you are generalizing about all Brazilians. My guess is there are some with bad manners just like you'd find anywhere else.

I don't think you'll see Disney turning them away any time soon. Here's a good article on CNN about the impact of BTG's in central FL:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/24/travel/brazilian-tourist-invasion/index.html

Spending that kind of money I welcome them with open arms, besides Brazilian women are gorgeous.

Here are some highlights from the article:







And while the US economy was tanking the BTG's helped keep Disney profitable and able to maintain upkeep:

I suppose it is a gross generalization. But, it is generally the Brazilian groups that I run into at WDW that pose the biggest issue. Are they all poorly behaved? Of course not. But it does seem to be a higher percentage of BTGs that behave badly as compared with other groups.

we got stuck on the monorail with them from tupperware. Let me just say I will never purchase anything from tupperware again for the rest of my life. SO loud, SO rude, there is no reason or excuse for their behavior they display. I dont want to hear them sing do you?

Been there with this group in the past. I'm telling you, it's a pack mentality. You put a nicely behaved golden retriever, who is a gently family pet, into a group of 5 other dogs, and it would amaze you what that golden will do. completely different dog in a pack vs in the family home. Seems to work with people as well!!!

I have been to Disney many times during the times when Brazilian tour groups, cheerleaders, etc. are also attending.

I do not generally have an issue with the chanting in the park but I do think it is rude to do it in a line (or during a ride/attraction/restaurant) when you are in a tight space with other people that may not want to hear loud chanting. That is common courtesy.

I also have an issue with one tour guide getting in the FP line and getting 100FP tickets. I do not think Disney should limit the number FP obtained per person but I do think Disney should have a special FP machine specifically designated for people that are obtaining say more than 15 FP. It can be a dedicated FP line just for tour guides or other large groups.

As for line cutting, yes it is annoying and yes it happens but it is in our hands to report that to a CM.

As a Floridian however, these are minor annoyances when tourism is what keeps this state afloat. In a bad economy any dollar, even loud chanting Brazilian dollars, are appreciated.

Finally, to some posters that complain about them not understanding English or "pretending" to not understand English, that is extremely xenophobic. They do not understand English because they are from another country. When I went to Italy, I did not understand Italian. Should I have stayed home? It is not a requirement to speak English to visit Disney World or anywhere else for that matter.

Xenopobic? Nope. Not when I get the 'no English' to my face, and then giggles and very nice English as soon as I turn my back...really, this has happened more times than I can count. And it is always Brazilian teen girls...always. They come rushing up, bang into you, or try to cut in line to get to their friends, or closer to the front of the counter service lines. You stop them, with an 'Excuse me, the line starts back there.' and you get a 'No English', then they turn, giggle, and say something in close to perfect English. The vast majority of these kids speak some English. As do their tour guides. The tour guides have to in order to be able to get assistence in some situations.

Ok, here's what the Brits think of Americans in WDW (warning on link for swearing, don't click if you are offended by swearing)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqO3SNXJYsw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Apparently we are rude and obnoxious.

Oh man...so a parent commented, out loud, during the manatee spiel, about the manatee eating lettuce. Shoot me at dawn. Not exactly what I would call rude. Probably more rude to use the language he used. Shows a decided lack of vocabulary.

I just can't agree with a lot of the remarks about the tour groups, whether they are Brazilian or not. They pay their money and buy their tickets,the same as me. The comment about them having their own shirts is ridiculous. I sometimes travel alone and I have my own shirt. As far as the group leader running ahead and getting 50-70 fast passes at a clip, would you rather that they go separately and get in line and get them individually? That would take a lot longer than if one person gets them all at once. I am sorry, the Brazilian tour groups have just as much a right to be at the parks as the cheerleaders, Pop Warner football teams, conventioners, families, and yes, even single travelers. Where do you draw the line, a familiy of five is ok, but a family of eight is a large group? I am sure this post will be removed, as one of my earlier posts was removed, but I guess I just wanted to ventagain. I guess, when I go to Disney next time, I will borrow a shirt from my neighbor, so I don't have to wear my own shrt.

You misunderstand me. If someone has paid their park entrance, then sure, they have the same rights as I do. They don't get more rights...they get equal rights. Now, if they have paid for VIP tour guides, then sure, they get more and better rights. But that isn't my issue. I would like to see common courtesy...the same courtesy I would like to think these kids would show if they were out with their parents in their own country. But something happens as soon as you put more than 10 people in a group....pack mentality takes over. Happens no matter who the group is...American, Brazilian or Japanese.
And so what if they all have the same shirts??? Most groups do. I don't think anyone took issue with that but I could have missed that post. Besides, it makes it easier to see them coming, so I can head in another direction. I don't want to get behind a huge group...any huge group.

And the FP usage?? As I stated before, I would like one of two things to happen...
1. a dedicated FP maching, manned by a CM, that is for the express use of those in groups larger than 20.
or...
2. several people getting into the FP lines, splitting the number of FPs being taken. This way, no one line is going to be hugely impacted by one guide standing there, getting 35 FPs.That takes a fair amount of time!!!



Really....I don't dislike Brazilians. My prom date, way back in the dark ages, was our high school foreign exchange student from Brazil.
My issue is with all large groups that feel that rules don't apply to them. Those groups that feel it's ok to run crazy in the parks, knocking children over, bangiing into others, screaming and shouting on attractions. Doesn't much matter where they are from.

Let me share a slightly different take. My dh and dd (then about 14) were at Night of Joy the year it was as DHS. We are regular church attenders, so figured it would be fun to check it out. We headed to ToT. We got into the line to wait...it was about a 25 min wait. Well..up from behind us came this group of teenaged girls. They were yelling and screaming. It was awful. We couldn't hear ourselves speak, so we finally stopped trying to have a conversation. Well, they ended up in our boarding group. OMG!!! The doors hadn't even closed when they started yelling. From start to finish....constant yelling and screaming. We got off the ride...my dd turned to me and said...'Well then...there's a good example of how not to behave out in public. That was nasty!'
Then, as we exited the gift shop and headed out of the ToT area, another group of teenaged girls came running up, grabbed dd and I (thank God dh was in the rest room!!), yelling 'hugs for Jesus, hugs for Jesus!!!'. As I said, I'm as spiritual as the next person, more so than most, but this was really unwelcome!!!
So, it's not just BTGs that are offending groups. It can be religious groups, it can be school groups...I've seen awful behaviour from all manner of groups. But for some reason, the BTGs just seem to come across as much more entitled than others. Could be cultural..not sure.

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

I have traveled to many different countries many of which I did not know the language and found communicating difficult.

However before going you do make an effort to at least start to know some of the language. A basic please, thank you, yes and no is always a good start. Even if you don't know the language body language is always a give away. It doesnt take a genius to figure out someone is not happy with you when you are cutting the line.

When you travel abroad it is also good to check on the customs of that country. For example I have been places where you have to cover your arms and legs, or your hair. You check and then respect the local customs. Before traveling to the US I make sure I fully understand the tip system so as not to offend.

And to be fair queueing is not just an American thing. I have stood in lines all round the world. Its not that alien a concept surely.

I would never travel to a country where I would have to cover up anything.

But, I guess that is for another thread.

 

[Disney/Universal Fan]

Did I say Americans are perfect? Nope, don't think so. But, here's the difference. Take one family of 4 or 5, and have them leave their counter service table full of 'leavings'. Then, compare that to a group of 30, taking up multiple tables, leaving those tables for someone else to clean up. Quite a difference.


I suppose it is a gross generalization. But, it is generally the Brazilian groups that I run into at WDW that pose the biggest issue. Are they all poorly behaved? Of course not. But it does seem to be a higher percentage of BTGs that behave badly as compared with other groups.


Been there with this group in the past. I'm telling you, it's a pack mentality. You put a nicely behaved golden retriever, who is a gently family pet, into a group of 5 other dogs, and it would amaze you what that golden will do. completely different dog in a pack vs in the family home. Seems to work with people as well!!!


Xenopobic? Nope. Not when I get the 'no English' to my face, and then giggles and very nice English as soon as I turn my back...really, this has happened more times than I can count. And it is always Brazilian teen girls...always. They come rushing up, bang into you, or try to cut in line to get to their friends, or closer to the front of the counter service lines. You stop them, with an 'Excuse me, the line starts back there.' and you get a 'No English', then they turn, giggle, and say something in close to perfect English. The vast majority of these kids speak some English. As do their tour guides. The tour guides have to in order to be able to get assistence in some situations.


Oh man...so a parent commented, out loud, during the manatee spiel, about the manatee eating lettuce. Shoot me at dawn. Not exactly what I would call rude. Probably more rude to use the language he used. Shows a decided lack of vocabulary.



You misunderstand me. If someone has paid their park entrance, then sure, they have the same rights as I do. They don't get more rights...they get equal rights. Now, if they have paid for VIP tour guides, then sure, they get more and better rights. But that isn't my issue. I would like to see common courtesy...the same courtesy I would like to think these kids would show if they were out with their parents in their own country. But something happens as soon as you put more than 10 people in a group....pack mentality takes over. Happens no matter who the group is...American, Brazilian or Japanese.
And so what if they all have the same shirts??? Most groups do. I don't think anyone took issue with that but I could have missed that post. Besides, it makes it easier to see them coming, so I can head in another direction. I don't want to get behind a huge group...any huge group.

And the FP usage?? As I stated before, I would like one of two things to happen...
1. a dedicated FP maching, manned by a CM, that is for the express use of those in groups larger than 20.
or...
2. several people getting into the FP lines, splitting the number of FPs being taken. This way, no one line is going to be hugely impacted by one guide standing there, getting 35 FPs.That takes a fair amount of time!!!



Really....I don't dislike Brazilians. My prom date, way back in the dark ages, was our high school foreign exchange student from Brazil.
My issue is with all large groups that feel that rules don't apply to them. Those groups that feel it's ok to run crazy in the parks, knocking children over, bangiing into others, screaming and shouting on attractions. Doesn't much matter where they are from.

Let me share a slightly different take. My dh and dd (then about 14) were at Night of Joy the year it was as DHS. We are regular church attenders, so figured it would be fun to check it out. We headed to ToT. We got into the line to wait...it was about a 25 min wait. Well..up from behind us came this group of teenaged girls. They were yelling and screaming. It was awful. We couldn't hear ourselves speak, so we finally stopped trying to have a conversation. Well, they ended up in our boarding group. OMG!!! The doors hadn't even closed when they started yelling. From start to finish....constant yelling and screaming. We got off the ride...my dd turned to me and said...'Well then...there's a good example of how not to behave out in public. That was nasty!'
Then, as we exited the gift shop and headed out of the ToT area, another group of teenaged girls came running up, grabbed dd and I (thank God dh was in the rest room!!), yelling 'hugs for Jesus, hugs for Jesus!!!'. As I said, I'm as spiritual as the next person, more so than most, but this was really unwelcome!!!
So, it's not just BTGs that are offending groups. It can be religious groups, it can be school groups...I've seen awful behaviour from all manner of groups. But for some reason, the BTGs just seem to come across as much more entitled than others. Could be cultural..not sure.

I promise, this will be my last post on this thread. (I am sure many of you are happy about this). I grew up with 10 brothers and sisters. Yes, there were 11 kids,m so 13 including my Mom and Dad. We were never able to vistit WDW when we we younger. If we would have been able to do so, I certainly hope "pack mentality" would not have taken over and that we would not have interfered with the vacations of any other visitors. And hopefully, because we would have been a group of over ten people, visitors such as you would not have looked down upon us.
I also live in Florida and welcome vistitors from other countries, be they small or large groups. Just as I welcome visitors from New Jersey, Ohio, California and any other areas of this country, even if they have over 10 in their groups. It helps the economy.

 

[Aroth28]

Still would like to know what they chant!! is it like " we will we will rock you!"

 

[Wadecool]

If we would have been able to do so, I certainly hope "pack mentality" would not have taken over and that we would not have interfered with the vacations of any other visitors. And hopefully, because we would have been a group of over ten people, visitors such as you would not have looked down upon us.

If you were a group of over ten people who weren't cutting in line, disrupting others by chanting loudly, and generally leaving a trail of destruction in your wake, I'm sure you would be welcomed with open arms.

 

[creativeamanda]

This topic pops up from time to time and always ends with the same thing--emotional arguing turns to "how dare you put down someone who is different" to the thread getting locked.

Here's the thing: living near Myrtle Beach, there are groups of people we locals cringe to see. Many of them are poor drivers, rude, and difficult to get along with. But we want their tourism money so we deal with it. Apparently, when it comes to Disney, they prefer the tourism $$ and let the rudeness, cutting in lines, FP hogging continue. We can complain, but in the end we have one of four choices:
a) continue to go at that time that we know tour groups are going to be there knowing how they are and complain ruining our own vacations,
b) learn to live with it,
c) go at times when there are fewer tour groups, or
d) take our own tourism money elsewhere.

I choose option c, because I don't want to live with it, ruin my own vacation, or take my $$ elsewhere. Do I like dealing with the tour groups? No. Is there anything I think I can do about them? No.

 

[goofy4tink]

I promise, this will be my last post on this thread. (I am sure many of you are happy about this). I grew up with 10 brothers and sisters. Yes, there were 11 kids,m so 13 including my Mom and Dad. We were never able to vistit WDW when we we younger. If we would have been able to do so, I certainly hope "pack mentality" would not have taken over and that we would not have interfered with the vacations of any other visitors. And hopefully, because we would have been a group of over ten people, visitors such as you would not have looked down upon us.
I also live in Florida and welcome vistitors from other countries, be they small or large groups. Just as I welcome visitors from New Jersey, Ohio, California and any other areas of this country, even if they have over 10 in their groups. It helps the economy.

Well, I'm going to assume that your parents had rules of behaviour for you all. I have to say that the families with many kids (more than 4) that I know, are the most disciplined families, with the most well behaved kids. They have to be. Large families are not what I am talking about here. I am talking about people, especially teenagers, who are all put together, in an area away from home and their families. They tend to behave very differently within that 'pack' than they do at home. It's just human nature. I don't much care where they are from..it happens to kids at college and away from home for the first time, it happens to foreign tour groups.
I do take umbrage at your comment of 'visitors such as you would not have looked down upon us'. I mean, really??? Seriously?? Where did I ever say I looked down on anybody??? Don't put words in my mouth. I am one of the most accepting people you will ever come across. But I will NOT tolerate bad manners and rude behaviour....from anyone. It's that simple. Look down upon you indeed....

 

[ppony]

Well, I'm going to assume that your parents had rules of behaviour for you all. I have to say that the families with many kids (more than 4) that I know, are the most disciplined families, with the most well behaved kids. They have to be. Large families are not what I am talking about here. I am talking about people, especially teenagers, who are all put together, in an area away from home and their families. They tend to behave very differently within that 'pack' than they do at home. It's just human nature. I don't much care where they are from..it happens to kids at college and away from home for the first time, it happens to foreign tour groups.
I do take umbrage at your comment of 'visitors such as you would not have looked down upon us'. I mean, really??? Seriously?? Where did I ever say I looked down on anybody??? Don't put words in my mouth. I am one of the most accepting people you will ever come across. But I will NOT tolerate bad manners and rude behaviour....from anyone. It's that simple. Look down upon you indeed....

Something tells me this poster you quoted is just enjoying being argumentative and obtuse because these arguments are just so weak and ridiculous. MOST of us have common sense and MOST of us don't need to type out EVERY SINGLE CONTINGENT for a situation. We get it. Jeeze! Saying something about one group does not call all other groups perfect. Seriously ridiculous. It's got a glass house situation, nor a first stone one either. If no one would ever say anything because they themselves were not free of sin, the internet and life would be silent. There are legitimate gripes. Some need to get over it! I get so tired of people here discounting everyone else's experience becasue they themselves didn't share it.

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

As a cast member..we really CAN'T say anything to them. If we watch them plain as day walk out of a store with a handful of clothing, we can't say a word to them. We have to call security and THEY handle it. Security is in charge of behavioral issues. The most we could ever tell them is to form a line

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

Still would like to know what they chant!! is it like " we will we will rock you!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhAtKHn88Xw

 

[Aroth28]

Wait so all they do is sing loud songs in unison? That's it ?? I was thinking they were screaming USA sucks or something vulgar... meh, they provide millions of tourist dollars to the Orlando area. I didn't think it's as bad as portrayed. Heck , we were overwhelmed last time by hoard of screaming/chanting/ freaking out/ mis-behaving/rude tour group...


only they weren't from Brazil, they were pre teen American cheerleaders. I can't see the BTG being anyworse than those spoiled rude brats.

Let em all come, it's what keeps WDW in the red which means more new attractions, etc...