BIG Problem at New School

notactuallyme

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I'm another DISer under cover... This is long, I appreciate your patience.

A little background. We moved from the city to the burbs in June. My husband's contract with his job wasn't up until September, but we wanted my oldest (9) settled in before school started. He continued to commute during the summer. Because of the length of the commute, he often stayed at our apartment during the week. We moved to a nice small town neighborhood. One of the main reasons we chose this community was because of the excellent public school system.

My son pretty much immediately made a friend, a boy the same age who was to be in his class, who lives a few doors down. The boys hit it off great. I'll call him Billy. Billy and his mom came over many days. Mom and I hung around our pool while the boys swam. We chatted and talked. Mom (I'll call her Mary) is very involved in a fundamentalist christian church, and would often ask my son and I to attend events with them. At 1st I made excuses, telling her that since my husband was home so infrequently we liked to spend family time together. She understood, but continued to ask, so I finally just told her we are not religious people. (we are not) Because of his schedule Mary only ever saw my husband in passing. He would come home late Friday and leave late Sunday

A little more background.... My husband is Lebanese and Muslim. While I never announced "my husband is Muslim," I always referred to him by his 1st name (Mohammed) and have talked about my mother in law in Lebanon.

Any way... school started the day after Labor Day, my son loves his school and his teacher. On 9/9 Mary calls and and tells me that she and her husband are supposed to go to a wedding on 9/10 and could we please watch Billy because her sitter cancelled at the last minute. I told her no problem, why not make it a sleep over, so they didn't have to worry about rushing home. She was very thankful. Lo and behold, at the sleepover Billy wakes up in the middle of the night with a fever and sore throat. I gave him a dose of tylenol and sent him back to bed. He was up early ( a little after 7) and still didn't feel well. I called Mary at 7:30 and told her Billy wasn't feeling well and that I would walk him home. She told me not to bother that her husband would come get him. I was dealing with my younger son at the time, and my husband answered the door. Mary's husband (I'll call him Bob) and my husband chatted for a bit, Bob saying that he was up and dressed any way because he was meeting friends for an early round of golf. Monday morning (9/12) after the boys go to school, I walk down to Mary's with my younger son to drop off a video game her son left at our house. Mary was very cold and hostile towards me. I asked her if something was wrong and she goes on a tirade about how I should have told her we were not a christian family and that how she never would have allowed her son to become so "ingrained" with a "non believing" family, and that she would never allow her son to associate with people who support terrorism, especially on 9/11! :scared1: I was stunned, and I left. Now, mind you, I never said "My husband is Muslim," and maybe this woman is no Rhodes scholar, but I have never met a non Muslim man who was named Mohammed. Not to mention our last name isn't exactly Smith or Jones. The mother in law in Lebanon should have been a clue, too. .... but I digress....

My son comes home from school that day saying he wants to go to another school. He said none of the kids will play with him, and that they are all saying that his father is a terrorist! I immediately call the teacher, set up a meeting for the next morning before school. We meet with the teacher, explain the story, she is VERY apologetic. Apparently during the day she gave a little lesson on 9/11 and stereotyping, and sent a letter home to the other parents about the issue. Bob came over that evening and brought Billy and made him apologize. Bob then went on to explain that Mary had recently become involved with this church through a friend and that he did not agree with many of it's teachings and that he was sorry for the trouble he had started, because it was he who had pointed out that Mohammed was Muslim. He said that after he had picked up Billy she asked him if he had invited us to her church's 911 memorial service and he explained to her that we may not feel comfortable, and why.

Soo.... my son says some kids are no longer shunning him, but many still are. Although they don't call names outright, they don't include him. I am upset because my son was always such a good student and loved school, now he doesn't even want to go. He is asking if he can go to a different school. We can afford private school, but the only one we would consider is a 45 minute drive away, and we would be responsible for the transportation. I have talked to the school, they can monitor teasing and bullying, but they can't make children play together at recess and lunch... *sigh*
 
They're kids. The other kids will probably forget and get over it.

But stay away from Billy and his mother, Mary. You don't need a neighbor who will TERRORize you or your kid.

I am very sorry for your son. :hug:
 
I'm another DISer under cover... This is long, I appreciate your patience.

A little background. We moved from the city to the burbs in June. My husband's contract with his job wasn't up until September, but we wanted my oldest (9) settled in before school started. He continued to commute during the summer. Because of the length of the commute, he often stayed at our apartment during the week. We moved to a nice small town neighborhood. One of the main reasons we chose this community was because of the excellent public school system.

My son pretty much immediately made a friend, a boy the same age who was to be in his class, who lives a few doors down. The boys hit it off great. I'll call him Billy. Billy and his mom came over many days. Mom and I hung around our pool while the boys swam. We chatted and talked. Mom (I'll call her Mary) is very involved in a fundamentalist christian church, and would often ask my son and I to attend events with them. At 1st I made excuses, telling her that since my husband was home so infrequently we liked to spend family time together. She understood, but continued to ask, so I finally just told her we are not religious people. (we are not) Because of his schedule Mary only ever saw my husband in passing. He would come home late Friday and leave late Sunday

A little more background.... My husband is Lebanese and Muslim. While I never announced "my husband is Muslim," I always referred to him by his 1st name (Mohammed) and have talked about my mother in law in Lebanon.

Any way... school started the day after Labor Day, my son loves his school and his teacher. On 9/9 Mary calls and and tells me that she and her husband are supposed to go to a wedding on 9/10 and could we please watch Billy because her sitter cancelled at the last minute. I told her no problem, why not make it a sleep over, so they didn't have to worry about rushing home. She was very thankful. Lo and behold, at the sleepover Billy wakes up in the middle of the night with a fever and sore throat. I gave him a dose of tylenol and sent him back to bed. He was up early ( a little after 7) and still didn't feel well. I called Mary at 7:30 and told her Billy wasn't feeling well and that I would walk him home. She told me not to bother that her husband would come get him. I was dealing with my younger son at the time, and my husband answered the door. Mary's husband (I'll call him Bob) and my husband chatted for a bit, Bob saying that he was up and dressed any way because he was meeting friends for an early round of golf. Monday morning (9/12) after the boys go to school, I walk down to Mary's with my younger son to drop off a video game her son left at our house. Mary was very cold and hostile towards me. I asked her if something was wrong and she goes on a tirade about how I should have told her we were not a christian family and that how she never would have allowed her son to become so "ingrained" with a "non believing" family, and that she would never allow her son to associate with people who support terrorism, especially on 9/11! :scared1: I was stunned, and I left. Now, mind you, I never said "My husband is Muslim," and maybe this woman is no Rhodes scholar, but I have never met a non Muslim man who was named Mohammed. Not to mention our last name isn't exactly Smith or Jones. The mother in law in Lebanon should have been a clue, too. .... but I digress....

My son comes home from school that day saying he wants to go to another school. He said none of the kids will play with him, and that they are all saying that his father is a terrorist! I immediately call the teacher, set up a meeting for the next morning before school. We meet with the teacher, explain the story, she is VERY apologetic. Apparently during the day she gave a little lesson on 9/11 and stereotyping, and sent a letter home to the other parents about the issue. Bob came over that evening and brought Billy and made him apologize. Bob then went on to explain that Mary had recently become involved with this church through a friend and that he did not agree with many of it's teachings and that he was sorry for the trouble he had started, because it was he who had pointed out that Mohammed was Muslim. He said that after he had picked up Billy she asked him if he had invited us to her church's 911 memorial service and he explained to her that we may not feel comfortable, and why.

Soo.... my son says some kids are no longer shunning him, but many still are. Although they don't call names outright, they don't include him. I am upset because my son was always such a good student and loved school, now he doesn't even want to go. He is asking if he can go to a different school. We can afford private school, but the only one we would consider is a 45 minute drive away, and we would be responsible for the transportation. I have talked to the school, they can monitor teasing and bullying, but they can't make children play together at recess and lunch... *sigh*

That just makes me soooooooooo angry!! Why people choose ignorance over educating themselves about things that are unfamiliar to them (or they only know bits and pieces they've picked up here and there), I'll never understand..

I'm so sorry that your son (and your family) have to deal with such ignorance.. No advice, but a big :hug: to all of you..

And on a side note, I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs here on the DIS that recently there have been so many people having to create new user names in order to discuss something important going on in their lives for fear of what the responses from other posters will be.. :sad2:
 
I have a very un-DIS word for Mary ;).

It hasn't even been a week. Who knows, maybe by Monday, all the kids will be playing together again; if not then, the following week. Kids adapt quickly.
 

That's very sad. Try to have him stick it out until January and see if it gets better. Once kids see that other kids are playing with him, they may just realize the stupidity of it all and play with him too. I'm sorry you all have to deal with that. :hug:
 
Thank you. I was hoping, too, that it will blow over since it is only the beginning of the year. Billy and by extension, his mother are a done deal. Billy isn't a bad kid, but he is not old enough to separate himself from his mother's beliefs. I keep telling my son to just ignore the others and make friends with the kids that are nice. It's just hard because it's a new school and all. It's hard enough to be the new kid, but then to have this on top of it.... rrrgggh!

I decided to go under cover because there was some very strong sentiment on the boards surrounding 9/11, and I wasn't really sure how people would deal with the whole Islam issue. The truth is we are not religious, but it's pretty hard to get around "Mohammed." People have even suggested he change his name!
 
I am so sorry. I would give it some time and if things don't improve by the end of the semester then maybe consider the private school. :hug:
 
It's such a shame that in the 21st century, there are still ignorant bigots poisoning young minds.
 
That just makes me soooooooooo angry!! Why people choose ignorance over educating themselves about things that are unfamiliar to them (or they only know bits and pieces they've picked up here and there), I'll never understand..

I'm so sorry that your son (and your family) have to deal with such ignorance.. No advice, but a big :hug: to all of you..

And on a side note, I think it's a pretty sad state of affairs here on the DIS that recently there have been so many people having to create new user names in order to discuss something important going on in their lives for fear of what the responses from other posters will be.. :sad2:

I think people are creating new user names to protect their privacy, not because of fear. I may be wrong but that's my impression.


OP, I'm so sorry that your son is being hurt because of ignorance.
 
If your son stays at the same school, would you consider either doing a talk for his class on diversity? Or working with the teacher to create one she/he could deliver?

I sympathize with your plight, and am trying to think of a way to turn it around for at least most of the kids. Some people are knotheads, but most are willing to consider another viewpoint.
 
Mary was very wrong.

I would just remind your son that he and your family have nothing wrong and profess what YOU believe. It may not totally make things better at school. But he needs that reassurance that your family is fine and that your faith is not what caused 9/11.
 
Mary is an idiot. I'm sorry you went through that.

A former boyfriend of mine is of middle eastern descent, non-religious with the only religious person in his family being his Christian mother. I hadn't thought about him in quite a few years until 9/11, but since then have often wondered if he and his family endure prejudice and what it would be like if we had married.

I can't even imagine what practicing Muslims go through.
 
My husband is not what I would call outgoing. I cannot for the life of me imagine him talking in front of a class. LOL. Funny thing is, only he is Muslim, I am not. I wasn't raised in any type of religion. A little Santa, a little Easter rabbit, but the only time I have ever been in church is weddings and funerals. We actually don't really practice any religion, but given his name, there is no denying his background.
 
I'm so sorry that this happened to your son :hug:

One of my best friends is Muslim, and when we were discussing 9/11 last weekend, she told us that right after 9/11 occurred, the kids on the bus would say awful things to her and her younger brother. She said it did eventually get better, because kids forget things quickly. I was shocked- I can't even imagine being mean to someone at that age for religion. :sad2:

Hopefully the kids will all forget soon- they usually do. I also agree with a PP who said if the kids see other kids playing with him, they're going to want to play with him, too.
 
I don't think this is a problem with the school so much as the neighbourhood/area. I'd definitely steer clear of your neighbour there and just explain prejudice to your son.

Maybe you could volunteer to speak to the class - you could work with the teacher to combine a lesson on civil rights and liken the stereotyping stuff about black kids before Birmingham to Muslims, and etc.
 
My heart breaks for your son. No child should have to hear that ridiculousness.

Since they're young most of the other kids will hopefully soon forget about it.

I'd like to ask Mary, if she hasn't seen or heard your husband interacting with a terrorist group, how does she know he is a terrorist? Because of his name? Rubbish!

Sorry this really irks me!

I am honestly astounded at what stereotyping and racism can do to otherwise rational people. At my old school when Obama was elected a good amount of the white teachers would not talk to the black teachers. I just don't get it! While I may not have voted for him, a lot more people than my coworkers had to in order for him to get elected. Why would I be mad at them for that?
 
I am so sorry. That's just terrible! :mad:

Do you and your husband have any time to volunteer at the school? Maybe this could be a teaching experience for the kids and it could help your son to feel better, poor dude. :(

My son's preschool teacher was Pakistani. I mean, she was born in Pakistan, but moved here when she was five years old. Her husband moved here when he was a preteen or young teen. Her husband owned a hardware store and after 9/11 some people vandalised it. He cleaned it up and replaced windows, etc, and a few days later, they set fire to it. He decided his life wasn't worth it and he sold the business.

You couldn't ask for nicer, more compassionate people than them. AND (not that this makes them any better or worse) they're Christians.
 
There are two problems here.
1) Mary is a nutjob.

Not much can be done about that, but it sounds like her husband is at least reasonable. She doesn't represent your neighborhood- heck, she doesnt even represent Christians. She represents the whakadoo team.

2) Kids are mean to each other. They will find anything to pick on. Clothes, religion, parent's profession, where they live, etc. School is like prison. Everybody divides up in like groups and spends most of their time trying to stay in the good graces of whoever the top dog is. It's tough no matter where you go as far as the social stuff goes. Being the new kid he has to find where he fits in the puzzle. It will take time.

Best of luck!
 
My heart breaks for your son. No child should have to hear that ridiculousness.

Since they're young most of the other kids will hopefully soon forget about it.

I'd like to ask Mary, if she hasn't seen or heard your husband interacting with a terrorist group, how does she know he is a terrorist? Because of his name? Rubbish!

Sorry this really irks me!

I am honestly astounded at what stereotyping and racism can do to otherwise rational people. At my old school when Obama was elected a good amount of the white teachers would not talk to the black teachers. I just don't get it! While I may not have voted for him, a lot more people than my coworkers had to in order for him to get elected. Why would I be mad at them for that?

What?! :scared1:
 
What a horrible situation. Ugly and downright infuriating. Mary is a moron. She needs a good kicking. **Hugs** for you and your son. :hug:

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