Beginning in January - 18% Gratuity....

How do you feel about the new 18% gratuity charge?

  • I AGREE

  • I DISAGREE

  • I DON'T CARE


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okay, i'm confused...

the title of this thread says: New Gratuity Policy starting Feb 1
and w/in the OP it says: Effective January 1, 2008, 18% gratuity will be added

so, is it jan 1 or feb 1? i have friends going down in late jan and i've been coaching them every step of the way, what to expect, how much to bring, etc etc etc and i'd like to give them accurate information... tia!
 
What a shame, its almost getting to the point with me where Disney is becoming less & less appealing all the time. "A place where dreams come true" I'm not so sure anymore ...:confused3
 

Everytime I have made and ADR they ask if you have the DDE, so yes they do know that you have the card before you even sit down.

I too have NEVER been asked if I have DDE either. Actually, the soonest it gets brought up is when we pay our bill (then the server just modify's the check).
 
My mistake ... it should have been Jan 1 ..

This comes directly from Disney ...

We would also like to inform you that the Walt Disney World® Resort will be implementing an across property policy change regarding gratuity at all food and beverage locations. Effective January 1, 2008, 18% gratuity will be added to all transactions, regardless of party size. Thank you for your continued support.
 
For our family of 7 that would be something like a $45 tip at alot of table service places, forget about it, I guess we will just eat of property in the evenings....

Just curious. What do you usually do in regard to tipping at TS restaurants?
 
Exactly correct. The DDP brochure is crystal clear for the gratuity in 2008. Similarly to how they cannot make it a choice between appetizers and desserts in 2008, they would also be unable to change the gratuity policy for 2008.

You really believe they would not change something just because it is printed in a flyer. Since the 2008 has not started yet I believe they can and will do what ever they want.
 
I hate to say it, but honestly, most of the food at the Disney restaurants is not that good and highly overpriced as it is, the only reason in the past that I ate it is because my wife bought the dining plan. Now you not only want to charge me ridicously high prices but automatically put 18% on top of that, I just can't justify it, if someone can then let me know, to many good places 10 minutes away with alot better food & service. What a shame. Someone said this new CEO they have is doing a great job, well I have to wonder ...
 
Moderators...my apologies, I meant to post this on the restraunt forum not the dining plan forum...can it be moved???
 
I am not sure exactly how this falls under political correctness. That phrase seems to have become the catch-all term for things people don't like. I think it is much more likely that what has happened in the past is that folks on the DDE or other plans have been tipping a percentage based on the discounted amount, not on the full amount of the check, thus shortchanging their servers. I seem to remember a CM some months ago on this board mentioning this policy change as being part of their new work contract and the workers wanted it as part of the agreement for the reason I stated.

Also, I think of this as Disney instituting a tipping floor, but not a ceiling. I imagine we will be able to tip above that 18% and servers will be working to get that bit extra. I hope this is enough to ward of worker apathy. I also hope this only applies to table service locations as I can't see tipping counter service folks 18% for just handing me my food.


First, a tip is not an entitlement. If it is, then add it to the cost of the food or have a line item that states "wait staff salary/costs." In Europe, you may add 5-10% for a job very well done, but the cost of food does include the majority of the service personnel costs.

Second, somewhere along the line I think we have forgotten what the original purpose of a tip is: something extra for a job well-done, the amount to be determined by the quality of the service. Also, it seems that somewhere in time, we have increased the percentage of the bill to which the wait staff feels that they are entitled. It has risen from 15% to 18% even as the cost of the meal has increased. And, for buffets, 18% is quite a bit above the norm to tip.

Third, I think Disney needs to consider their customers as well as the demands of their union wait staff. (At this point, they are beginning to drive away both long-term and potential customers with the multitude of extra costs written in the fine print. When people begin to calculate the cost of Disney, many other vacation options look great, and the actual days spent at Disney during an Orlando vacation begin to dwindle.)

Fourth, we have DDE, and we make a point of calculating 20% from the "before discount" price for the tip. However, I am so offended by the "union workers" sense of entitlement that I am changing my expectations of their service. Honestly, at this point, if the service isn't excellent, I am offended enough to consider calling a manager over and discussing my service expectations for the tip amount I am forced to pay.
 
I thought all of the brochures said the 18% applied if you have 6 or more people in your group.
Can they do this if it's only 2 people?
 
You really believe they would not change something just because it is printed in a flyer. Since the 2008 has not started yet I believe they can and will do what ever they want.


I do believe that. Many people have been told that it's too late to change the plan for 2008 as far as the great appetizer and dessert debate. It's pretty logical that if they can't change that aspect of the plan, that they couldn't go back on their tipping plan.

I would further think that it'd be easier for Disney to change to the appetizer/dessert option instead of changing the gratuity. By changing to the choice of the appetizer or dessert they are giving the customer something more.

If Disney were to change the DDP 18% gratuity to be mandatory for everyone (not just parties of 6 or more as stated in the brochure), they are taking something away from the customer.

Also, this email was sent to DDE customers only. There is really no reason, other than one phone call to one CM from one person, to think that this is for everyone.
 
Itchin2go - - - I don't mind 18% if its a table service restaurant whereyou have to order, are served, and get good service.

My beef is adding an auto. 18% at a buffet that has highly over inflated prices to begin with.

If I actually had to pay cash, I would never go to any of those places. My wife purchasing the Dining Plan in the past makes one not really think to much about it.
 
This is commonly done on cruise ships. When purchasing a beverage at a bar, an 18% gratituity is automatically charged to your room. I don't mind because I'm on vacation.

I do agree, however, with PP's opinions about buffets getting the same 18% as my wait staff at LeCellier, for example.

My suggestion to those that don't want to pay the 18%, don't go to any table service restaurants and eat counter service or off site. That's fine with me. Maybe the necessity for ADR's will change.
 
I do believe that. Many people have been told that it's too late to change the plan for 2008 as far as the great appetizer and dessert debate. It's pretty logical that if they can't change that aspect of the plan, that they couldn't go back on their tipping plan.

I would further think that it'd be easier for Disney to change to the appetizer/dessert option instead of changing the gratuity. By changing to the choice of the appetizer or dessert they are giving the customer something more.

If Disney were to change the DDP 18% gratuity to be mandatory for everyone (not just parties of 6 or more as stated in the brochure), they are taking something away from the customer.

Also, this email was sent to DDE customers only. There is really no reason, other than one phone call to one CM from one person, to think that this is for everyone.

Does it state (perhaps in fine print) that the dining plan is subject to change without notice?
 
I still think that this change has something to do with the removal of the automatic 18% gratuity on the DDP.

The workers lost something, so in order to appease them they were given a promised 18% from DDE customers.

Disney is brilliant to do this. Instead of Disney footing the gratuity bill (which had to be millions of dollars for them with the DDP), they are transferring the cost to us, the consumer, via the mandatory 18% with the DDE.
 
Fourth, we have DDE, and we make a point of calculating 20% from the "before discount" price for the tip. However, I am so offended by the "union workers" sense of entitlement that I am changing my expectations of their service. Honestly, at this point, if the service isn't excellent, I am offended enough to consider calling a manager over and discussing my service expectations for the tip amount I am forced to pay.

I couldn't agree more...well stated! I am offended by the fact that they think "I'm too stupid to calculate a proper tip!" ***Tip my ---, it's a SERVICE charge!***
 
I just got off the phone with Disney Dining, the CM said the automatic tip is for groups of 6 or more for those on the DINING PLAN.
 
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