Be Thankful for President Bush

[Mugg Mann]

Our forests have not been decreasing for decades.

Got a verifiable cite for that?

 

[Mugg Mann]

Which liberals are you referring to? The ones who call themselves liberals (otherwise known as Democrats) or the ones who act like liberals (otherwise know as Bush Republicans.)

Sorry, I can't help there. You established this thread as a sarcasm thread; no explaining allowed.

Joe, I cannot agree more. Science should determine how policy is crafted. But only if it agrees with George's policies. However, we must make sure that when the liberals try to use science, we make ir clear that the bible has to trump their scientific results.

I believe you stated that the bible takes precedence over scientific results in the Gay marriage thread.

So, what does the bible say about air and water standards?

First paragraph. Your sarcasm is in the spirit of the thread.

Second paragraph. Only where science theories and the Bible disagree.

Third paragraph. We are to be good stewards.

Congratulations on being totally hypocritical, Joe, but we've come to expect nothing less of you. You don't want to answer the question in the first post, so you dismiss it by saying that only sarcasm is allowed in this thread, and then you violate you own words with a non-sarcastic explanation to the second paragraph in the next post.

Independent, here's Joe's exact quote from the thread you cited where he was asked whether the Constitution of the United States or the bible takes precedence in this country:

The Constitution, unless there is something specific that is contrary to the Word of God, then as a Christian, the Bible would have to take precedence.

Folks, never forget for a second that Joe believes that his way of life and his particular beliefs should take precedence over the Constitution.

 

[DJR]

The tax cuts were for everyone who paid taxes. Logically, those who paid the most saved the most. (Are you prejudiced against successful people?)

I don't think so... I am reasonably successful myself, but no in the same class as the top 10% who stand to benefit the most. I am concerned, however, with the burden we are leaving to future generations who will never be able to dig themselves out of Georgie's budget mess.

 

[Laz]

We also haven't been attacked my Aliens while Bush was President... Thank God.

Are you sure????

 

[wvrevy]

I don't think so... I am reasonably successful myself, but no in the same class as the top 10% who stand to benefit the most. I am concerned, however, with the burden we are leaving to future generations who will never be able to dig themselves out of Georgie's budget mess.

Don't forget...as bad as Shrub's budgets are, things are actually considerably worse because they hide the money for Iraq by not including it in the general budget. At last count, the war in Iraq is costing us roughly $100,000 PER MINUTE !!! (See this article for a detailed breakdown).

Remember the comments before the war? Rummy and Crashcart talking about it being "months, rather than years" ? All the talk of how we would be greeted as liberators? Well, just last week, Shrub announced that we will be there through the end of his presidency in 2008 (assuming he's allowed to stay in office that long, which he shouldn't be). This shortly before a new Downing Street memo surfaced in England detailing a meeting between Bush and Blair at which it was understood that we would be invading Iraq...all while the administration was making noise about trying to find other solutions.

I honestly don't see how anybody could be so dyed-in-the-wool partisan that they could still support this administration. It just baffles me how people could still be so gullible.

 

[MzDiz]

I honestly don't see how anybody could be so dyed-in-the-wool partisan that they could still support this administration. It just baffles me how people could still be so gullible.

I was just thinking that there are a total of four people left in this country that still support this president and they've all managed to congregate on this thread.

 

[LakeAriel]

Gee, I wonder if George's LIBERAL (gasp) attitude about immigration has anything to do with his brother Jeb's wife being Mexican.....Just a coincidence I'm sure!

 

[Independent]

Folks, never forget for a second that Joe believes that his way of life and his particular beliefs should take precedence over the Constitution.

March 1, 2006 - Jamie Rasking, professor of law at AU, testifying at a hearing on the proposed Constitutional Amendment to prohibit gay marriage, responded to Republican senator Nancy Jacobs:

Republican Senator Nancy Jacobs: "Mr. Raskin, my Bible says marriage is only between a man and a woman. What do you have to say about that?"

Professor Raskin:"Senator, when you took your oath of office, you placed your hand on the Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution. You did not place your hand on the Constitution and swear to uphold the Bible."

I am so proud that our Republican party thinks this a bit of nonsense. Of course the bible trumps the constitution. What was Professor Rasking even thinking? He must be one o' dem democrats that will ruin the moral fiber of our country. Thank goodness for our Republicans who are saving us.

Just wondering - Is gay marriage allowed on that alien planet that the Republicans are saving us from?

 

[CapeCodTenor]

I am so proud that our Republican party thinks this a bit of nonsense....Thank goodness for our Republicans who are saving us.

Just wondering - Is gay marriage allowed on that alien planet that the Republicans are saving us from?

Just make sure you're not lumping all Republicans with this. I'm a Republican and I have a gay uncle, and I wish he and his partner of 12 + years could get married, but they can't.

 

[wvrevy]

Just make sure you're not lumping all Republicans with this. I'm a Republican and I have a gay uncle, and I wish he and his partner of 12 + years could get married, but they can't.

If you vote Republican, you are as responsible as anyone for their not being allowed to marry. Sorry, but it is your chosen party that is pushing this bigotted agenda, not mine. You vote with them, you get lumped in with them.

 

[Independent]

Just make sure you're not lumping all Republicans with this. I'm a Republican and I have a gay uncle, and I wish he and his partner of 12 + years could get married, but they can't.

My apologies - I was just referring to the out in right field republicans that seem to speak for our administration these days and are constantly trying to turn our democracy into a Christian theocracy. The majority of the people out there (as indicated by the polls) are moderate republicans and democrats who actually have their heads on straight.

But those right wingers do make for some rather interesting reading - it would be amusing if not so scary.

But as Wrevy states - By casting your votes for this party, you also cast your vote for the repression of gay rights.

 

[Mugg Mann]

Just make sure you're not lumping all Republicans with this. I'm a Republican and I have a gay uncle, and I wish he and his partner of 12 + years could get married, but they can't.

I trust they live outside Massachusetts.

After all, gay marriage has been legal in the state for almost two years and not only have they not had some sort of Pat Robertson/Fred Phelps-ordained "act of god" strike upon them, but Massachusetts still continues to have the lowest divorce rate in the entire nation.

Hmmm........there's a lesson in there, but that would require an open mind in order to learn it.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

If you vote Republican, you are as responsible as anyone for their not being allowed to marry. Sorry, but it is your chosen party that is pushing this bigotted agenda, not mine. You vote with them, you get lumped in with them.

Let me ask you something; do you support the politician(s) you voted for 100% of the time? Because if you do it must be nice to find someone you agree with 100% of the time. I don't think there's ever going to be a politician I can agree with 100% of the time. So I can vote for someone, or belong to a party, and still have issues with them.

 

[kydisneyfans]

Let's do basic math-5 million jobs created, 12 million illegals to take them--at some point the unemployment rate is bound to go up. Not only do we ship our jobs to Mexico, they come here and take the jobs too.

 

[beattyfamily]

Be Thankful for President Bush

I am!

 

[wvrevy]

Let me ask you something; do you support the politician(s) you voted for 100% of the time? Because if you do it must be nice to find someone you agree with 100% of the time. I don't think there's ever going to be a politician I can agree with 100% of the time. So I can vote for someone, or belong to a party, and still have issues with them.

Nope But that said, there is precisely zero chance that I would ever support someone that held such a bigotted belief. None. If it were a presidential election, I simply would not vote. Or, if his or her opponent held an opposing view, I might even vote for the other guy. But I would never vote for someone that believes gays should be treated as second class citizens. Not at any level of government.

There hasn't been a politician yet invented that agrees with all of my political views. Most of the time, I vote for the person that comes the closest to my hypothetical ideal. But there are some issues I would never waver on, and civil rights just happens to be one of them. I also put my money where my vote is, and while it's not much, it will only go to those candidates that I feel best represent what American values should be. Namely, equal justice and opportunity for all people.

But again, it is your party that the christian nutcases have taken over, not mine. If you're willing to continue supporting them as they push this country towards a theocracy, that's your perogative. Just don't complain about being "lumped in" with them when people call them out on it.

 

[yeartolate]

-Last year our economy grew at a healthy 3.5 percent

I love how the new math can make record deficits change into a 3.5% growth in economy.


It is kind of like moving into a bigger house that you cannot afford. You live better for awhile until your overindulgence comes back to bite you in the butt.

(I understand the economy is not that simplistic, but fuzzy math is fuzzy math)

 

[Bob Slydell]

I love how the new math can make record deficits change into a 3.5% growth in economy.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. It's possible to have a growing economy, but yet still be overspending, thus growing the deficit.

 

[yeartolate]

I understand, but yet if Iraq continues to be the money pit that it is.....eventually it is hard to invison a growth in the economy that will offset our debt. Eventually someone will call in our markers for our debt.

 

[CapeCodTenor]

There hasn't been a politician yet invented that agrees with all of my political views. Most of the time, I vote for the person that comes the closest to my hypothetical ideal.

You know it's funny, but I do the same thing.

But again, it is your party that the christian nutcases have taken over, not mine. If you're willing to continue supporting them as they push this country towards a theocracy, that's your perogative. Just don't complain about being "lumped in" with them when people call them out on it.

I will continue to complain about being "lumped in" because if I don't then I run the risk of being labeled a "dye-in-the-wool republican" and I don't want that...because I'm not.