Be Thankful for President Bush

[lw49033]

I do thank President Bush. All those press conferences provide daily entertainment while I await my Disney trip. If only there weren't all those dead, wounded and maimed...

Not to mention the looming possibility of nuclear war because of this Bible-beating freak of a president.

 

[LuvDuke]

-Last year our economy grew at a healthy 3.5 percent

-Over the past two-and-a-half years, the economy has added nearly 5 million new jobs. That's more than Japan and the 25 nations of the European Union combined.

-The national unemployment rate is 4.8 percent -- that's lower than the average rate of the 1970s, the 1980s and the 1990s.

-Household net worth is at an all-time high. Real after-tax income is up more than 8 percent per person since the beginning of 2001.

-Since 9/11, America has been safe from enemy attack

Your are correct to Give President Bush your thanks!

And the US was safe from enemy attack from 1993 to 2001. That makes 8 years there was no enemy attack on the mainland. Looks like Shrub has few years to go to catch up with Clinton.

 

[LuvDuke]

I was looking at the news today and I couldn’t help notice a few things:

• Budget deficits running at 800 billion dollars a year. (As opposed to budget surpluses just 6 years ago.)
• Over 12 million illegal aliens
• A no-win war which is bleeding our country

Ah, but you misinterpret, my dear Mossman!

The Republicans are certainly thankful for the following reasons:

• What's wrong with a deficit as long as they got their tax cut, fought a war, and can pass the cost on to the next generations. Life is sweet!
  
  
• 12 million illegal aliens mean 12 million who will work for subsistance. It doesn't get any better to a Republican.
  
  
• A no-win war??? It's a win-win war for the Republicans. They don't have to fight in it and they don't have to pay for it. Hey, what say we invade Iran..................the Republicans aren't going to pay or fight in that war either. What the hell, let's invade Mexico. And, they've got oil too. Sweet Mother of Mercy!

 

[kayeandjim00]

Yeah I am thanking Bush big time today as I write a HUGE check to the federal government for my taxes. We are so far from rich it isn't funny but no children so they eat us alive. Now it could be purely coincidental but we NEVER paid in until the last 3 years and neither of us saw a huge pay increase so I don't get it. I could go on and on and on about the reasons I'm "thankful" for Bush. Mainly I'm just thankful he can't run again.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

What question? I answered you as well as a vague question can be answered. If you want to detail what you mean, I'll give it another shot.

Oh please. The question wasn't vague. You just don't want to answer it. You'd rather blame terrorism on the USA and insult our President.

 

[lw49033]

Oh please. The question wasn't vague. You just don't want to answer it. You'd rather blame terrorism on the USA and insult our President.

It is the USA's fault that this particular gang is hell-bent on attacking the USA. That's the best answer I can give you, if I am understanding your question correctly.

Switzerland has never been attacked by al-Qaeda (or anyone else lately.) That they also haven't attacked any other countries recently probably doesn't fall into the category of uncanny coincidence.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

It is the USA's fault that this particular gang is hell-bent on attacking the USA. That's the best answer I can give you, if I am understanding your question correctly.

Switzerland has never been attacked by al-Qaeda (or anyone else lately.) That they also haven't attacked any other countries recently probably doesn't fall into the category of uncanny coincidence.

So if we all acted like Switzerland, there would be no terrorists?? (Of course, we'd all be speaking German. Just think what would have happened if the USA stayed neutral in WWII.)

Does this "gang" that attacks the USA, attack other countries too? Or only infidels? Or only "westernized" countries? Are they nice to countries that let them have "fun" killing innocents?

I guess we should do nothing and hope terrorists pick on other countries instead or just accept terrorism as is?.

 

[lw49033]

So if we all acted like Switzerland, there would be no terrorists?? (Of course, we'd all be speaking German. Just think what would have happened if the USA stayed neutral in WWII.)

The USA should've stayed neutral in WWII, but that is another discussion entirely. If we acted like Switzerland, yes, generally speaking we would be treated like Switzerland. (Switzerland, of course, has its terrain to defend it against foreign invasion; the U.S. has two oceans and the Second Amendment. If they can stay neutral, so can we.)

Does this "gang" that attacks the USA, attack other countries too? Or only infidels? Or only "westernized" countries? Are they nice to countries that let them have "fun" killing innocents?

They attack the countries who have made themselves targets by blundering into the Middle East.

I guess we should do nothing and hope terrorists pick on other countries instead or just accept terrorism as is?.

Ending all foreign aid to Israel immediately would be a good start. That's not doing "nothing", it's taking a positive step towards extricating ourself from a fight that does not need to be our fight.

 

[LuvDuke]

So if we all acted like Switzerland, there would be no terrorists?? (Of course, we'd all be speaking German. Just think what would have happened if the USA stayed neutral in WWII.)

Does this "gang" that attacks the USA, attack other countries too? Or only infidels? Or only "westernized" countries? Are they nice to countries that let them have "fun" killing innocents?

I guess we should do nothing and hope terrorists pick on other countries instead or just accept terrorism as is?.

Cut the BS, Joe. Here's a little memory refresher: the first ones to "blame America", within days of 9/11, were Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. And that "blame America" crowd comes from your side of the political aisle.

Oh yeah, they apologized. So did Cynthia McKinney.

 

[LuvDuke]

The USA should've stayed neutral in WWII, but that is another discussion entirely.

Just for the record, neutrality wasn't an option as the Japanese attacked the US on 12/7/1941 and the Germans declared war 2 days later.

 

[lw49033]

Just for the record, neutrality wasn't an option as the Japanese attacked the US on 12/7/1941 and the Germans declared war 2 days later.

The Japanese did not attack the US because they were bored and had nothing better to do, but because of Roosevelt's provocative behavior and meddling in the Far East. Ever heard of the McCollum memo, by chance?

 

[LuvDuke]

The Japanese did not attack the US because they were bored and had nothing better to do, but because of Roosevelt's provocative behavior and meddling in the Far East. Ever heard of the McCollum memo, by chance?

Yes, I am familiar with "the McCollum memo" and also familiar with "None Dare Call It Treason". I am not a conspiracy buff because I don't think people are as Machiavellian as we want to believe but instead, to paraphrase a quote "I do not attribute to malice that which can be adequately be explained by stupidity".

I believe WWII was the right war, at the right time, and for the right reasons, none of which can be said for this current conflict in Iraq.

But, as you said before "that is another discussion entirely."

 

[lw49033]

Yes, I am familiar with "the McCollum memo" and also familiar with "None Dare Call It Treason". I am not a conspiracy buff because I don't think people are as Machiavellian as we want to believe but instead, to paraphrase a quote "I do not attribute to malice that which can be adequately be explained by stupidity".

That's a false alternative. I would contend that rationalization and moral corner-cutting explain more than either malice or stupidity. Also, it's a bit disingenuous to imply that any allegation of governmental dishonesty is a conspiracy theory, which evokes images of Illuminati and Freemasons and Area 51.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Cut the BS, Joe. Here's a little memory refresher: the first ones to "blame America", within days of 9/11, were Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. And that "blame America" crowd comes from your side of the political aisle.

Oh yeah, they apologized. So did Cynthia McKinney.

So what do those people have to do with me? Do you think I agree with those people? I have little (or no) use for any of the three. At least they apoligized.

What those above said does not excuse others from blaming America first (or at all) for the terrorists and their evil in the world (which is not limited to 9/11).

So you cut the BS and answer my questions (on the previous post) if you choose.

And thank you lw49033 for your straight forward answer -- although I strongly disagree. I can't imagine would would have happened to this world if we had not entered WWII. And why should we throw Israel under the bus?

 

[lw49033]

And thank you lw49033 for your straight forward answer -- although I strongly disagree. I can't imagine would would have happened to this world if we had not entered WWII. And why should we throw Israel under the bus?

It doesn't require a lot of "imagination"; the worst possible outcome is that we would've had to accommodate homicidal fascism just like we had to accommodate homicidal communism, until it fell apart just like communism eventually did. The best possible outcome would've been for the fascists and communists to exhaust their resources so thoroughly in the process of fighting each other that neither of them was a threat to any third party.

As for Israel, we should cut them loose because they are a treacherous and costly ally and our pseudo-alliance with them is the sole cause of our Middle East problems. People have forgotten that we didn't have a Middle East problem until 1948; in 1948 Egypt, Syria, Iran, Iraq and Libya were all U.S. allies.

 

[Saxsoon]

I can say for certain that we won't abandon Israel in the Middle East. That would not happen unless they attacked us, but I seriously doubt that. I would hate for Israel to left out there without our support.