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Viking said:Bush also ruined America's reputation over here thoroughly. We were so grateful to what his Dad did when he and Gorbachev helped to make our dream come true - The German Reunification. We are still grateful for that, we are also still grateful for what the USA -and the other Allies- did for us during and after WWII.
Unfortunately the USA is not longer what it used to be - thanks to Bush and his cronies. America used to be a guardian of freedom - Bush made it appear an oilthirsty warmonger, who even condones torture. Freedom has also been considerably infringed in the USA - thanks to his handling of 'the War against terror'.
I keep my fingers crossed that in this year's election the Elephant gets his butt kicked and loses its majority. The world need an America like it used to be.
I totally agree.
The USA stood for restraint, cool-headedness, freedom, justice and tolerance.
It still does - we must never lose sight of that.
However, recent actions have brought all of that into question. Off country prisons, closed to the UN's full inspections and the guilty-until-proven-innocent mentality especially springs to mind.
Of course, we over here in the UK also had said guilty-until-proven-innocent policy too, in the darker days of the IRA; we learned that it didn't work and now have backed the terrorists away from their own guns though dialogue. It's not perfect, but it stops people from being machine gunned down in the street by the terrorists or by the police. Or does it?
Recently a young Brazilian was tracked in London by the police, sporting a guilty-until-proven-innocent policy. They followed the man into an underground station, where he stopped to pick up a newspaper and to buy a ticket. He was dressed in lightweight denim. He proceeded down the escalators to the station platforms where he boarded a train.
He was restrained, hands behind his back and was shot repeatedly in the head "executioner style" in front of a crowded trainload of passengers. At no point did the police attempt to make an arrest.
That acted as a watergate in this country. Suddenly the guilty-until-proven-innocent notions seemed as ineffective as they were against the IRA and have since been abandoned. We're a largely peaceful nation after all - police typically aren't armed and we do not execute people. Our military spending is minimal and the most disturbing thing in the news lately has been the price of natural gas; as I said, we love peace.
I'm sure that the USA also loves peace, but you wouldn't believe it when you learn of people being detained without explanation nor charge. You wouldn't anticipate it given the recent initiation of hostilities with a nation that was "not threatening" and living on "borrowed time" with a lesser humanitarian crisis than one could find elsewhere. You couldn't credit it given the bypassing of international democracy in favour of world policing.
We in Eurasia are eternally grateful for the assistance afforded to us by the United States over the years. We are worried, however, about Bush. He has dragged the name of his country down and seems to fly in the face of peace, democracy and freedom.
America is not hated in herself; it is her steward that is. Bush is not popular outside of America and Israel one bit and this reflects his actions in power to this day.
I don't know who the next President will be - (s)he could be Democratic or Republican; heck, they could even be an independent! Whatever their political stace, they will have a hard task ahead of them, rebuilding shattered bridges, repairing ties of alliance, basically re-establishing America to her former glory.
Rich::

~Rose~

Anyone on this thread who supports this President is doomed to consuming bottles of TUMS! Why not go someplace friendlier! 


I feel like an idiot now.