Bad show disney!!!

[imthatgirl]

I don't see the big deal at all. I think some people spend way too much time looking for things Disney does wrong. whatever, they are under construction....it's not all going to be roses. get over it.

 

[redsoxman119]

I went on the train a week ago. I purposely rode around the MK just to see the construction going on for the new FL expansion. I thought it was the coolest thing! It didn't ruin the magic at all, in fact it made me more excited for what is to come next!

 

[ktlm]

Those of you who do not think it was bad clearly are not 3 to 6 years old and do not have children in that age range. As an adult, even though it completely pains me to see them doing that to Mickey and Minnie's houses, it isn't that bad. To my 5 year old daughter, who when she was 4 cried her eyes out when she heard that they were closing Mickey and Minnie's houses, if she had been on that train, she would have been crying and screaming and trying to get off the train to make them stop. I sure hope there was some sort of warning to parents putting little ones on the train that day. Kids who had not been to WDW before would not really have known the difference, except it seems like the guy on the video said it was Mickey's house they were tearing down which might have been traumatic even if the kid was not attached to the place. My kid thinks Mickey and Minnie are moving their houses back to their world because they are tired of people traipsing through them all the time, and she still cried for a LONG time (Minnie's house was one of her absolute favorite places at WDW). I don't plan on letting her know that they completely bulldozed them.

 

[Wadecool]

Those of you who do not think it was bad clearly are not 3 to 6 years old and do not have children in that age range. As an adult, even though it completely pains me to see them doing that to Mickey and Minnie's houses, it isn't that bad. To my 5 year old daughter, who when she was 4 cried her eyes out when she heard that they were closing Mickey and Minnie's houses, if she had been on that train, she would have been crying and screaming and trying to get off the train to make them stop. I sure hope there was some sort of warning to parents putting little ones on the train that day. Kids who had not been to WDW before would not really have known the difference, except it seems like the guy on the video said it was Mickey's house they were tearing down which might have been traumatic even if the kid was not attached to the place. My kid thinks Mickey and Minnie are moving their houses back to their world because they are tired of people traipsing through them all the time, and she still cried for a LONG time (Minnie's house was one of her absolute favorite places at WDW). I don't plan on letting her
know that they completely bulldozed them.

Excellent point!

 

[imthatgirl]

Those of you who do not think it was bad clearly are not 3 to 6 years old and do not have children in that age range. As an adult, even though it completely pains me to see them doing that to Mickey and Minnie's houses, it isn't that bad. To my 5 year old daughter, who when she was 4 cried her eyes out when she heard that they were closing Mickey and Minnie's houses, if she had been on that train, she would have been crying and screaming and trying to get off the train to make them stop. I sure hope there was some sort of warning to parents putting little ones on the train that day. Kids who had not been to WDW before would not really have known the difference, except it seems like the guy on the video said it was Mickey's house they were tearing down which might have been traumatic even if the kid was not attached to the place. My kid thinks Mickey and Minnie are moving their houses back to their world because they are tired of people traipsing through them all the time, and she still cried for a LONG time (Minnie's house was one of her absolute favorite places at WDW). I don't plan on letting her know that they completely bulldozed them.

Well you're wrong, I have 2 kids in that age group. I guess it really just depends on how you have prepared your kids for reality. It's not like they were bulldozing Mickey's house. They were digging in the ground. The houses are in storage some where. We just told our kids that they moved the houses to make room for the new exciting things happening at WDW. Why as an adult you would even consider telling them the houses are ruined is beyond me anyway.

 

[JoShan1719]

Yeah, that was pretty bad. I still can't believe they're expanding Fantasyland. I mean, I have no problem with that, but what the plan to do with the expansion is just disgraceful! I'm sure Walt would be doing flips in grave if he knew what was happeneing.

And yet wasn't his whole idea to keep changing things? Moving forward? No one can know for sure how he'd feel, but I think he'd be more upset if things didn't change.

Seeing the construction going on doesn't bother me, I think it's great to get a behind the scenes look at what's going on. I wouldn't come close to calling it a "bad show" nor would I say there is no Disney Difference anymore. The Disney Difference starts the moment you get out of your car at the TTC.

 

[Silver Queen]

I don't see this as a big problem at all. Perhaps there's a reason why opaque coverings aren't being used for this project. (Better air flow for the workers inside the enclosed space?) In any case, I can't understand being that critical about it.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

Those of you who do not think it was bad clearly are not 3 to 6 years old and do not have children in that age range. As an adult, even though it completely pains me to see them doing that to Mickey and Minnie's houses, it isn't that bad. To my 5 year old daughter, who when she was 4 cried her eyes out when she heard that they were closing Mickey and Minnie's houses, if she had been on that train, she would have been crying and screaming and trying to get off the train to make them stop. I sure hope there was some sort of warning to parents putting little ones on the train that day. Kids who had not been to WDW before would not really have known the difference, except it seems like the guy on the video said it was Mickey's house they were tearing down which might have been traumatic even if the kid was not attached to the place. My kid thinks Mickey and Minnie are moving their houses back to their world because they are tired of people traipsing through them all the time, and she still cried for a LONG time (Minnie's house was one of her absolute favorite places at WDW). I don't plan on letting her know that they completely bulldozed them.

Actually I have a six year old daughter and a son who will turn three on our upcoming trip, and my daughter didn't care for Mickey & Minnie's houses at all on our last trip (when she was five). I told her that part of MK would be closed on our upcoming trip and would be reopening in the future as a new area of Fantasyland, and her only reaction was to say "great, they were never home, anyways and none of the stuff in there was real". She is far more concerned that we quickly locate the new home of the fairies in Epcot, and is thrilled with the new Beauty and the Beast ride and restaurant that will be opening in a few years.

 

[KellyNY]

Those of you who do not think it was bad clearly are not 3 to 6 years old and do not have children in that age range. As an adult, even though it completely pains me to see them doing that to Mickey and Minnie's houses, it isn't that bad. To my 5 year old daughter, who when she was 4 cried her eyes out when she heard that they were closing Mickey and Minnie's houses, if she had been on that train, she would have been crying and screaming and trying to get off the train to make them stop. I sure hope there was some sort of warning to parents putting little ones on the train that day. Kids who had not been to WDW before would not really have known the difference, except it seems like the guy on the video said it was Mickey's house they were tearing down which might have been traumatic even if the kid was not attached to the place. My kid thinks Mickey and Minnie are moving their houses back to their world because they are tired of people traipsing through them all the time, and she still cried for a LONG time (Minnie's house was one of her absolute favorite places at WDW). I don't plan on letting her know that they completely bulldozed them.

Way too dramatic. Why to complicate things with all this dramatic explanation. They moving houses to make new attractions. Mickey and Minnie will sleep where the rest of the characters sleep at night, period. If she wants details, suggest to ask CM when you are there.

 

[ktlm]

Well you're wrong, I have 2 kids in that age group. I guess it really just depends on how you have prepared your kids for reality. It's not like they were bulldozing Mickey's house. They were digging in the ground. The houses are in storage some where. We just told our kids that they moved the houses to make room for the new exciting things happening at WDW. Why as an adult you would even consider telling them the houses are ruined is beyond me anyway.

Apparently, you weren't watching the video close enough. Look at the part between 2 and 3 minutes, they are not digging in the ground. They are tearing Mickey's house down, and there are big yellow pieces of it all over clearly visible through the green shield. My child is observant enough to figure that out. This is a kid who just today at age 5, told us where we stopped to pick up dinner after getting off the plane at home after her trip to WDW when she was 2...we were shocked. DH and I sure didn't remember that, until she reminded us. If you even read my post you would see that my child was told Mickey and Minnie were moving their houses, which is why if we were on a train that went by and she watched a bulldozer tearing the house to shreds she would have freaked out and been completely devastated.

Also the dramatic explanation that they moved things back to cartoonworld (see the Disney movie Enchanted if you don't know what I am talking about) doesn't complicate things, it simplifies them. We had to get her prepared for not being able to see the houses on our next visit, because one of the absolute first things she has wanted to do every time we set foot in MK since she was 2, is go see Minnie's house. We went through it every day we visited the MK no matter how many days were were in MK on each trip, and she usually wanted to do it at least twice every MK day- once early in the day and once to say goodby to it in the evening before we left for the day. She is not one that can be distracted to forget about something by other fun things while in the parks. If my child thought that WDW just moved the houses, she would be demanding to see them wherever they are on our next trip. She would also be walking up to CMs asking where the houses were and why she can't see them. If the CM tells here they are put away somewhere, she will be asking who she needs to go see to arrange a tour. She is not shy; will talk to anyone adult or child; is competely outgoing; and precocious is an understatement. As to where all the characters sleep at night...my child has been categorized as gifted...at age 3 she was not buying that the characters actually lived at WDW. She told me that Cinderella's castle had to be a fake because there was a restaurant inside, there were no grounds and Cinderella's village was not outside the castle. She wanted to know where Cinderella's real castle was. She saw the movie Enchanted and took that as an explanation. The characters come to WDW to see kids during the day because they like to do that, and then they go through a door like Giselle goes down the wishing well in enchanted to go back and forth. For some reason, even though she pegged Cinderella's castle as a fake, that kid loved those mouse houses and I think she may have thought they were the real thing.

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

Apparently, you weren't watching the video close enough. Look at the part between 2 and 3 minutes, they are not digging in the ground. They are tearing Mickey's house down, and there are big yellow pieces of it all over clearly visible through the green shield. My child is observant enough to figure that out. This is a kid who just today at age 5, told us where we stopped to pick up dinner after getting off the plane at home after her trip to WDW when she was 2...we were shocked. DH and I sure didn't remember that, until she reminded us. If you even read my post you would see that my child was told Mickey and Minnie were moving their houses, which is why if we were on a train that went by and she watched a bulldozer tearing the house to shreds she would have freaked out and been completely devastated.

Who told her that? It wasn't ever true, so unless you were somehow going to be able to get Disney Corporation to go along with the story, the problem seems to stem from the fact that somebody told a white lie to your daughter about the fate of the houses.

My daughter is similarly bright and scarily aware, which is why we told her that the houses were being torn down to make room for new things and that Mickey and Minnie were certainly not going to be homeless. She's seen buildings and houses get torn down and replaced with new homes and buildings, and it's something she could accept without pretending that the houses were being moved. If I told my daughter that they were being moved, she'd want to know to where, and why, and why they didn't just buy new houses (we've moved many times, and since we've never brought our house with us it wouldn't make sense to her).

 

[A_Princess'_Daddy]

Also the dramatic explanation that they moved things back to cartoonworld (see the Disney movie Enchanted if you don't know what I am talking about) doesn't complicate things, it simplifies them. If my child thought that WDW just moved the houses, she would be demanding to see them wherever they are on our next trip. She would also be walking up to CMs asking where the houses were and why she can't see them. She is not shy; will talk to anyone adult or child; is competely outgoing; and precocious is an understatement. As to where all the characters sleep at night...my child is categorized as gifted...at age 3 she was not buying that the characters actually lived at WDW. She told me that Cinderella's castle had to be a fake because there was a restaurant inside, there were no grounds and Cinderella's village was not outside the castle. She saw the movie Enchanted and took that as an explanation. The characters come to WDW to see kids during the day because they like to do that, and then they go through a door like Giselle goes down the wishing well in enchanted to go back and forth.

Well, not exactly, it seems like the white lie certainly would have complicated things for you, if your daughter had seen the construction, since it wasn't true and could be proven to be false. Also, since you know she'll speak to anybody, if you lacked a plan to get everybody at WDW on the same page, it could have broken down in one of those exchanges, as well.

Why not just tell her they bought new and nicer houses with all the money they have made from the ticket sales, plus the significant box office receipts from Tangled, and that this time they made sure to buy in a gated community? As I said above, that's something my daughter, who is also in G&T classes, embraced willingly.

 

[Planogirl]

Just tell the kids that Mickey and Minnie moved to other houses. Plenty of kids have done that themselves. It doesn't have to be that complicated.

 

[KellyNY]

Apparently, you weren't watching the video close enough. Look at the part between 2 and 3 minutes, they are not digging in the ground. They are tearing Mickey's house down, and there are big yellow pieces of it all over clearly visible through the green shield. My child is observant enough to figure that out. This is a kid who just today at age 5, told us where we stopped to pick up dinner after getting off the plane at home after her trip to WDW when she was 2...we were shocked. DH and I sure didn't remember that, until she reminded us. If you even read my post you would see that my child was told Mickey and Minnie were moving their houses, which is why if we were on a train that went by and she watched a bulldozer tearing the house to shreds she would have freaked out and been completely devastated.

Also the dramatic explanation that they moved things back to cartoonworld (see the Disney movie Enchanted if you don't know what I am talking about) doesn't complicate things, it simplifies them. If my child thought that WDW just moved the houses, she would be demanding to see them wherever they are on our next trip. She would also be walking up to CMs asking where the houses were and why she can't see them. She is not shy; will talk to anyone adult or child; is competely outgoing; and precocious is an understatement. As to where all the characters sleep at night...my child is categorized as gifted...at age 3 she was not buying that the characters actually lived at WDW. She told me that Cinderella's castle had to be a fake because there was a restaurant inside, there were no grounds and Cinderella's village was not outside the castle. She saw the movie Enchanted and took that as an explanation. The characters come to WDW to see kids during the day because they like to do that, and then they go through a door like Giselle goes down the wishing well in enchanted to go back and forth.

All kids, gifted or not, use imagination and explain things in their own way. However, there is nothing wrong with telling a kid that houses are moved, removed, demolished and so on, after all Mickey and Minnie still be in parks. What harm would it make to your kid? She would still believe that Mikey and Minnie go to their world at night but you would not have to be afraid that some CM at some point can say something about houses and bring your kid to tears. In my exerience it is the best not to put ideas in your kids head but let her come to conclusions on her own. If you do not know how not to lie and not to kill magic, "I do not know..." is the best answer. Worked great on my DD.

 

[Sammie]

I found it very interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

Until Disney Magic expands to being able to magically conjure up new attractions I think construction is going to be an on going thing in the parks. Even the walls that they use at DCA do not hide everything.

If you or your kids can't handle that, then go somewhere else.

 

[ktlm]

The reason she got that story-and I'm the one who did it, so feel free to keep flaming me- is that we told her that Mickey and Minnie were probably going to be closing their houses and we would not be able to go through them our next trip and she started sobbing, and after she had been sobbing and crying for well over 20 minutes (yes she has a dramatic flair) and begging to know why and what was happening to the houses, that is the story the panicked Mom came up with (the they were moving the houses because they were tired of people traipsing through them all day. As I said before, she saw Enchanted at 3 and at 3 came up with that as her own explanation for where the characters really live- that was not me) . I had anticipated there was going to be a reaction, but not as big a reaction as there was. Trying to calm her down, I had already tried the "We can go see their houses at Disneyland", as she has been there before too, but she doesn't like Minnie's house there as much so that didn't stop the tears. I also tried the new Beauty and the Beast restaurant since she loves Beauty and the Beast - and that got "They are replacing Minnie's house with a restaurant....."and more sobbing It is the house itself she is attached to not Minnie somehow losing a house, so telling her they were tearing it down so Minnie could build a bigger house somewhere else, or that Minnie still had a place to sleep was not going to cut it. Plus, at the time we told her that, the rumor was that they were going to move them to DHS, so we thought there was a chance that someday they would appear again. Since DD knows to expect that the houses are not there, and knows the stuff they will replace it with, I highly doubt she will even ask about it when we are at WDW. (This is a kid that you don't want to surprise with one of her favorites being closed at WDW... preparation ahead of time is the key with her.) However, if she actually saw them ripping the house to shreds, it would be another story.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

So Disney is suppose to magically know what you told your daughter in a panic and make sure they do nothing to ruin your lie? Probably not going to happen and it would be a bit much to expect it.

 

[ktlm]

So Disney is suppose to magically know what you told your daughter in a panic and make sure they do nothing to ruin your lie? Probably not going to happen and it would be a bit much to expect it.

Do you thing that a CM is going to tell a 5 year old who asks where Minnie's house is that they bulldozed it? (Okay maybe there are one or two CMs who might, but I think most of them are not going to say that and are just going to say that it moved which fits perfectly in with what I told her).

 

[KellyNY]

The reason she got that story-and I'm the one who did it, so feel free to keep flaming me- is that we told her that Mickey and Minnie were probably going to be closing their houses and we would not be able to go through them our next trip and she started sobbing, and after she had been sobbing and crying for well over 20 minutes (yes she has a dramatic flair) and begging to know why and what was happening to the houses, that is the story the panicked Mom came up with (the they were moving the houses because they were tired of people traipsing through them all day. As I said before, she saw Enchanted at 3 and at 3 came up with that as her own explanation for where the characters really live- that was not me) . I had anticipated there was going to be a reaction, but not as big a reaction as there was. Trying to calm her down, I had already tried the "We can go see their houses at Disneyland", as she has been there before too, but she doesn't like Minnie's house there as much so that didn't stop the tears. I also tried the new Beauty and the Beast restaurant since she loves Beauty and the Beast - and that got "They are replacing Minnie's house with a restaurant....."and more sobbing It is the house itself she is attached to not Minnie somehow losing a house, so telling her they were tearing it down so Minnie could build a bigger house somewhere else, or that Minnie still had a place to sleep was not going to cut it. Plus, at the time we told her that, the rumor was that they were going to move them to DHS, so we thought there was a chance that someday they would appear again. Since DD knows to expect that the houses are not there, and knows the stuff they will replace it with, I highly doubt she will even ask about it when we are at WDW. (This is a kid that you don't want to surprise with one of her favorites being closed at WDW... preparation ahead of time is the key with her.) However, if she actually saw them ripping the house to shreds, it would be another story.

Well, if you know your kid and wanted to prepare her, you could come out with better story in advance. You do not know when you can come across true story, it can be on TV, or from CM or another kid in Disney. The point is, Disney is not responsible for that, they do not kill magic in this situation, and all the cries and tears will be result from all those lies, not Disney actions.