Autistic son and GAC advice please

ArielRae

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We took our autistic son last Feb right before he turned 3 and we got a GAC to make his stroller declared a wheelchair. We did ok with just that on the GAC but DS did get upset a few times and would take it out on whoever was nearest luckly it was DH or I. He was only able to make it till lunch time before he was done with the parks and just wanted to swim the rest of the day. What should we tell the CMs we need or to ask for to add to our GAC for our next trip in NOV to help DS get to enjoy more before we have to leave after lunch. You can PM your advice if you like. Thanks!
 
You wrote that your son could only make it until noon. Did you happen to track what overwhelmed him? Too much noise? Too many people? Too hot? Did you arrive at park opening and if so, did that represent a significant change to his routine?

I think you'll need to think about the last trip so you will be able to tell the CMs what his needs are.
 
We are there at rope drop as DS is an early riser. He still takes afternoon naps so he would fall asleep in the parks right after lunch and we would bring him back to the hotel to nap. We tried to see if he would continue to enjoy the parks after his nap but he preferred to swim the rest of the day and threw a fit when we tried to get him to enjoy more park time. I think it is just to much stimulation being in the parks and having to wait in the lines makes him upset. So being back at the hotel swimming the second half of the day gave him time to unstress. He is just missing doing so much especially at MK. Wish we could fit in more attractions before we had to leave for the day after lunch.
 

To me, your son sounds like most kids....melting down by lunch and begging to go swimming. My friends just got back from Disney in May with her twin 4 year old boys (neurotypical) and she said every day in the park was like that. I don't think it's a GAC thing; it's a young kid in Disney thing. I gave up long ago thinking I could marathon my 6 yo autistic son in the parks all day. We go for rope drop, head out by lunch to enjoy the pool and rest, and then return for a while in the evening. I recommend letting the kid do what he enjoys...if it's the pool, so be it!
 
Sounds just like my kids when little. Can u gat a gac for kids not wanting to wait in lines!? Sorry, but think kids that are 3 are all pretty much like this!
 
If the parks are too much of a stimulant and he doesn't enjoy going why not try a different kind of vacation that's not as mentally stimulating? Perhaps try again when he is older? Seems cruel to put him through a WDW vacation if it upsets him that much.
 
you may see as he gets older, things may change or get better. my dgd, when she was younger, it was horrible having her in lines. but, after a few trips and her getting alittle older, she has learned to tolerate the lines better sometimes, and not only at Disney, but at carnivals and on the boardwalk. I think it actually helped her. but for now, maybe just go with the flow and let him do his thing. what do you think about reversing the day? maybe let him do his morning routine, then swim, have lunch and a nap and then head to the parks? you never know what may work for him.
 
I think you need to add a little more info on why/what causes your child to be done with the parks/lines by lunch, otherwise your going to get many responses like the above about your child just being a typical toddler who doesn't want to wait in line!
As many posters have said what child isn't done by lunch time having to wait in lines in the heat?

Our son has Autism and we always use a GAC but it's due to a number of reasons about what happens when he is in line, not just because he doesn't like to Que.he also can tolerate queuing to a point and so we will try and get him to Que. when we think he will tolerate it as he needs to learn to get on a ride this is what must happen!!

He also loves to swim so we factor that into our days and it goes much smoother " he is now 10" and has twin brothers, his brothers ( no disabilities ) also would rather swim when it gets to the afternoon,
So some days we stay around the resort so they can have a few hours pool time we then go back to the room after lunch try and get the to nap or at the very least watch tv for a bit before going to the parks when they are cooler,
Or we go early in the morning get what we want done while its quite then come back and relax,

Of course we will make use of the GAC it's there for us to use and so we are in the camp of we will use what is available to us! It does make for a much more pleasant trip and we get many things done smoother.
We stop and make sure we get out of the heat to eat a decent lunch somewhere as quite as possible so a corner in a QS or a TS meal as hunger really plays a part in making our son irritable.
So if you can tell us more about why your son gets like this when queuing or what happens ( more then he takes it out on you) then further advice can be given :)
 
We are there at rope drop as DS is an early riser. He still takes afternoon naps so he would fall asleep in the parks right after lunch and we would bring him back to the hotel to nap. We tried to see if he would continue to enjoy the parks after his nap but he preferred to swim the rest of the day and threw a fit when we tried to get him to enjoy more park time. I think it is just to much stimulation being in the parks and having to wait in the lines makes him upset. So being back at the hotel swimming the second half of the day gave him time to unstress. He is just missing doing so much especially at MK. Wish we could fit in more attractions before we had to leave for the day after lunch.
If you are going that early, you are at the park at the time when the lines and waits are shortest. Trying to do more could just end up over stimulating him even earlier and he will be overwhelmed even earlier.
Most people with it ism have trouble filtering stimuli, so things seem much more intense than they do to the average person. Sounds that may not bother us or we may not notice cn be uncomfortable loud for them.
This video illustrates a cafe from the viewpoint of a young woman with autism:
http://youtu.be/KmDGvquzn2k
(If the link doesn't work, look for Carly's Cafe)
When you look at tht and then think of all the stimulation at WDW parks, it's not surprising he is overwhelmed and wants to 'escape' in the afternoon. Everything is bright colors, lots of movement, noise, constant music.

It sounds like he is just 'done' at that point and needs his nap. Things may change as he outgrows the need for his nap.

It also sounds like he really needs the unstressing time that swimming in the pool gives him. The things he is doing (getting upset, throwing a fit, lashing out) ARE communication that say he is having a tough time and needs to destress.
You didn't say if he talks or not, but giving him some words (verbal, PECs, communication device) can be very powerful ways to help a child to cope without negative behaviors. In fact, many of the issues in the 'terrible 2s' in neurotypical kids is thought to be due to their want to have some control and the fact that they haven't developed words to communicate just what they want.

One way to handle the stress would be to leave the park, take a nap and then swim.
Or some people find that going someplace quieter is helpful. During the middle of the day, the boats and monorails from MK to the Ticket and Transportation Center are not usually busy, so some people go on those for several rides - some people with autism count those as their favorite rides and actually do very little in the parks.
To me, your son sounds like most kids....melting down by lunch and begging to go swimming. My friends just got back from Disney in May with her twin 4 year old boys (neurotypical) and she said every day in the park was like that. I don't think it's a GAC thing; it's a young kid in Disney thing. I gave up long ago thinking I could marathon my 6 yo autistic son in the parks all day. We go for rope drop, head out by lunch to enjoy the pool and rest, and then return for a while in the evening. I recommend letting the kid do what he enjoys...if it's the pool, so be it!
I would agree.
It's not unusual for families of preschool age kids to start the morning in the park, and then spend the rest of the day swimming or recovering.
 
To me, your son sounds like most kids....melting down by lunch and begging to go swimming. My friends just got back from Disney in May with her twin 4 year old boys (neurotypical) and she said every day in the park was like that. I don't think it's a GAC thing; it's a young kid in Disney thing. I gave up long ago thinking I could marathon my 6 yo autistic son in the parks all day. We go for rope drop, head out by lunch to enjoy the pool and rest, and then return for a while in the evening. I recommend letting the kid do what he enjoys...if it's the pool, so be it!

I would agree.
It's not unusual for families of preschool age kids to start the morning in the park, and then spend the rest of the day swimming or recovering.

I too would agree! My husband and I took our then 3 1/2 y/o GS to WDW Feb 2012. By lunch time, he was through and demanded to go back to the pool every single day of the trip. He has no disabilities. He's just a typical toddler. But by lunch time, he was through with the parks and let us know. He's usually a very laid back kid, that goes with the flow and never whines. However, by shortly after noon each day, he was begging to go back to the resort to swim and if we didn't, he either whined or pouted until we did. Also this kid had quit taking naps at home several months prior to our trip, but at WDW he was so tired that he took a nap every single day we were there.
 
Thanks everyone for your replies. We'll see how he is on the trip and go from there. If we need to adjust his GAC during the trip we will.:thumbsup2
 
Thanks everyone for your replies. We'll see how he is on the trip and go from there. If we need to adjust his GAC during the trip we will.:thumbsup2

You may also need to adjust your expectations. I know we've spend far more time at the pool with our little ones than I would expect (and, to be totally honest, like). As has been been stated by a few people, sometimes that it just what works with kids (those with and without autism).
 
We took our autistic son last Feb right before he turned 3 and we got a GAC to make his stroller declared a wheelchair. We did ok with just that on the GAC but DS did get upset a few times and would take it out on whoever was nearest luckly it was DH or I. He was only able to make it till lunch time before he was done with the parks and just wanted to swim the rest of the day. What should we tell the CMs we need or to ask for to add to our GAC for our next trip in NOV to help DS get to enjoy more before we have to leave after lunch. You can PM your advice if you like. Thanks!

Honestly, your son is displaying typical toddler behavior. Most are not good to go go go and want their needs met immediately. Imo your best bet is to enjoy the mornings together and then take turns going back to your resort with ds. That way he'll get down time and you each will get time in a park to do what you want.
 
Sounds just like my kids when little. Can u gat a gac for kids not wanting to wait in lines!? Sorry, but think kids that are 3 are all pretty much like this!

There is no GAC for 'kids not wanting to wait in lines'. :confused3

OP - do what you can to keep your child safe, and those around him safe too. Can you get a 5 point harness in his stroller? That way, he cannot lash out as much when he loses control. If he attacks anyone else beside family members, he could be removed from the park. I hope this never happens, but you have to be prepared.
 
You may also need to adjust your expectations. I know we've spend far more time at the pool with our little ones than I would expect (and, to be totally honest, like). As has been been stated by a few people, sometimes that it just what works with kids (those with and without autism).

This is also what we've learned! DH used to do WDW commando-style - full days in the parks, squeezing in as much as humanly possible. Our last trip with DD was wonderful - we were there 4 night but only did 1 day at MK - no other parks (we did spend another day at ESPN WWoS for a spring training game). We spent a lot of down-time at the resort pool, and more time at DTD than I would normally. The pool, the playground, those things are simply just as exciting to DD as the rides and parks. When she's done, she's done. And we try as much as possible to stick to our "normal" daily routine - getting up, eating meals, bedtime all as close to usual as possible.
 
This is also what we've learned! DH used to do WDW commando-style - full days in the parks, squeezing in as much as humanly possible. Our last trip with DD was wonderful - we were there 4 night but only did 1 day at MK - no other parks (we did spend another day at ESPN WWoS for a spring training game). We spent a lot of down-time at the resort pool, and more time at DTD than I would normally. The pool, the playground, those things are simply just as exciting to DD as the rides and parks. When she's done, she's done. And we try as much as possible to stick to our "normal" daily routine - getting up, eating meals, bedtime all as close to usual as possible.
Some adults are much more for the pools thn the parks.
My younger sister does usually one or 2 park days. The rest of her time is pool time.
 
OP - do what you can to keep your child safe, and those around him safe too. Can you get a 5 point harness in his stroller? That way, he cannot lash out as much when he loses control. If he attacks anyone else beside family members, he could be removed from the park. I hope this never happens, but you have to be prepared.

IF this is concern (OP didn't say), then it's not typical toddler behavior. How often are we concerned that a typical three-year-old might have to be removed from the parks? If this kind of issue is a concern, certain accommodations with the GAC can help.
 
You can definitely explain at Guest Services that your son can't handle large crowds (if that's the case) and they may be able to help you get some kind of accommodations. I can't tell you for sure what they'll do, it's been a long time since I went to WDW with someone with autism.

I think if you have his stroller as wheelchair, use Fastpass whenever possible and tour early in the day, you can do a lot in a short amount of time. You might also use headphones and an MP3 player with favorite music to help him block out crowd noise and sunglasses to cut down on visual stimuli.

Like PPs said, many "typical" 3-year-olds can only take so much before they melt down and have a hissy, and some even hit their parents. Personally (from my experience with my neurotypical son and my autistic brother), I find the most important thing is to be aware of your child's needs and meet them before they lose it. A snack, a few minutes on a park bench or a calm ride (Tomorrowland Transit Authority was my brother's favorite) can go a long way toward restoring an overwhelmed person, kid or adult, autistic or not.
 
If you can only go half-days, then you just need to take twice as long of a vacation. :)
 






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