As Christians, Any WDW attractions to AVOID?

[TigrLvsPooh]

I agree, the OP wanted info on the rides and attractions... not a flaming for her beliefs.

Who is flaming her for her beliefs?

 

[rapriebe]

YEAH WDWBetsy,
You stated exactly what I was thinking. Kids needs to be allowed to experience all walks of life not be sheltered from harmless fun. They should be allowed to grow up and form their own opinions on life.

 

[ophie]

Oh... Dinosaur and PW in AK both refer to Dinosaurs roaming the earth pre-Bible times. That could be something you want to think about...

 

[DisneyMomx7]

I really think the OP would be better off not going to Disney. I agree with the poster who said it would be like taking a kid to an ice cream parlor and then telling them they couldn't have ice cream. I never heard of Christians having problems with Disney so this is quite a surprise. I'm a CHristian and I always knew that SOrcerer Mickey was a fantasy. As for not going to the Universe of ENergy because of Ellen I'm sorry but I think that's the more intolerant statement I've ever heard on these boards.

 

[Gymbomom]

Who is flaming her for her beliefs?

The people who have said they shouldn't go if they don't want to experience all of Disney.
The people who have said that why would you "shelter" your children from .....
She asked for FACTS abour rides, not sarcasm or whether her parenting "sysem" was right or wrong.
If she had posed the question.....
"I am a christian and a believer in Jesus Christ, do you think the Sorcerors hat, or the fantasy of some of the rides will effect my children in a negative spiritual way??"
Then you could have brought it on......

 

[bytheblood]

Hi there....forgive me for commenting when I'm coming in sooo late, but as I skim these posts I question comes to mind.

There was mention of some Christians wanting to avoid all allusions to magic and witches (specifically the one in snow White). What I wonder is do these same folks celebrate Christmas with a tree, or Easter with eggs and bunnies?

I'm interested to learn.

Thanks,
Cathryn~

Cathyrn - I think this is all application and how the person accepts commercialism. I do not think this really relates to a WDW visit decision. An extensive study into history will show that Christmas and Easter do not come from Christian roots. However, the application is what makes it what it is. I know where these "Christian Holidays" originate from, but I have chosen a different application in my heart...so have many others. I am not sure if Christmas and Easter would affect the opinions of a visit to WDW.

 

[ScottieDog]

Oh... Dinosaur and PW in AK both refer to Dinosaurs roaming the earth pre-Bible times. That could be a problem...

Wowzer....if I were ever asked (I acknowledge that I wasn't) I'd say that keeping chidren ignorant about things like dinosaus is a form of abuse!!! Why would anyone want to set their own children up to look like fools.....and why stop with dinosaurs? Why not also just teach them that the sun rotates around the earth?

Cathryn~

 

[ophie]

Wowzer....if I were ever asked (I acknowledge that I wasn't) I'd say that keeping chidren ignorant about things like dinosaus is a form of abuse!!! Why would anyone want to set their own children up to look like fools.....and why stop with dinosaurs? Why not also just teach them that the sun rotates around the earth?

Cathryn~

I'm just saying... some Christians don't accept that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago because there are only so many years accounted for in the Bible. She asked for things that might conflict with her beliefs... I'm just trying to help. This is not a thread for anyone to bash or flame anyone else for their beliefs or practices.

 

[Belle1997]

Okay I have read all the posts. I too am a born again Christian. The only area I have a problem with is Mickey as a soccerer. But I do not let it affect my trip. I will not buy anything with a soccerer on it but I have plenty of other things to choose.I love Disney an the other day i was trying to picture heaven and I thought heaven would be 1000 times more wonderful than how I feel when i walk through the gate at MK. The wonderful feeling of joy and peace. The childlike feeling of isn't this so great. So As a Christian I take the good and there is plenty of it there. What a great place to just be yourself and let the child inside have fun.

 

[robinb]

The people who have said they shouldn't go if they don't want to experience all of Disney.
The people who have said that why would you "shelter" your children from .....

Well Gymbomom ... one of the hard facts about an open bulletin board is that a thread almost never stays on track. Even a moderated one like the DIS. IMO, none of that was "flaming". It made perfect sense that people who do not believe in her sect of Christianity would question the need to shelter her kids from ghosts, magic and the like. If only to understand why she feels and believes the way she does. That's not a flame. Also, the people who suggested that a Disney vacation may not be right were simply giving their opinions given the OP's self-imposed limitations. That is also not a flame.

It is not a flame to post opinions that do not conform to the OP's. You cannot control a thread once it's out in the public domain, no matter how hard you try.

 

[zurgswife]

Quote by the OP

The Disney "feel good magic" doesn't bother me, but the magic of socerers and witches would. That's why I will be skipping Snow White (b/c of the witch) and anything that deals with socerer Mickey. Just reading the description of Fantasmic bothers me! LOL.

Here is what I would suggest skipping. I may be going overboard, but just trying to give you an idea of possibilities.

MK:
Philharmgic (uses Sorcerer Mickey hat),
Snow White (witch)
Peter Pan (pixie dust magic)
Spectromagic parade (Sleeping Beauty fairies - magic)
Wishes (sorcerer Mickey hat and music)
Haunted Mansion (magic, ghosts)
Share a Dream Come True parade (Villians - all have magic)
Pirates of the Carribean

Epcot:
Living Seas (evolution)
Universe of Energy (evolution)
Maelstrom (trolls, Norwegian myths)

MGM:
Indiana Jones (evil curses)
Great Movie Ride (Wizard of Oz, Sorcerer Mickey)
Voyage of the Little Mermaid (Urusla and King Triton use magic)
Fantasmic (good versus evil, magic)
Beauty and the Beast (evil spell)
Stars in Motorcars Parade (villians again)

AK:
Pocahontas show (spirits)
Dinosaur (evolution)

This poster should really talk to members of her own congragation to get there feed back. We other Christians don't have problems as a whole with WDW...so it seems we aren't the group to pose this question too...

 

[ScottieDog]

Cathyrn - I think this is all application and how the person accepts commercialism. I do not think this really relates to a WDW visit decision. An extensive study into history will show that Christmas and Easter do not come from Christian roots. However, the application is what makes it what it is. I know where these "Christian Holidays" originate from, but I have chosen a different application in my heart...so have many others. I am not sure if Christmas and Easter would affect the opinions of a visit to WDW.

Thank you for the reply....and thank you for crediting the Pagans. I'm glad Christians have adopted these Pagan symbols I'm just sorry that they've taken them as their own with out properly and regularly crediting their origins to the very people the church sought and successfully vilified.

For my part I can see a connection to a WDW visit....seems to me that if ANY group should be offended it would be Pagans, For example the witch in Snow White is depicted as old ugly and evil. To total buy-in to the Christian propaganda about witches, not to mention misogyny at it's worst!

That all....I'm done.

Thank you,
Cathryn~

 

[ScottieDog]

I'm just saying... some Christians don't accept that Dinosaurs lived millions of years ago because there are only so many years accounted for in the Bible. She asked for things that might conflict with her beliefs... I'm just trying to help. This is not a thread for anyone to bash or flame anyone else for their beliefs or practices.

Oh I understood you....I'm in NO WAY faulting you. I'm sure you're right that she'd want to avoid this ride.

Cathryn~

 

[Gymbomom]

Well for me I just wanted to help her get all the information she could get to make an informed descision so they could make the most of her vacation.
This is just the first thread on here that I have been very suprised at the way people responded to a question being asked.

 

[MinnieM21]

I'm trying not to sound rude so please don't take this the wrong way. I think you should let your children know the difference between what is make believe and what is real. Disney's witches, magic, etc are all fantasy. I don't see what the problem with that is? Maybe if you're concerned about make believe witches, Mickey the Sorcerer, etc having a negative impact on your children then maybe WDW isn't the best place. I just don't see how Disney could be any worse than any other place in the world? Disney is a magical place for children and honestly I don't think a make believe witch is going to have a negative impact on them compared to other things in this world.

Disney is all about "the magic" and for children that's one of the things that attracts them to Disney. Being a child is all about fantasy and make believe.

 

[3xthecharm]

Pirates of the Carbean bothered my kids. Drinking, women being sold as slaves, buildings on fire.
Don't get me wrong, I saw this as a child and never thought anything of it. My children are very observant, so we plan to skip this on our next trip.

I would avoid any ride described as intense. Because of our life style as Christians, these would be too much for our young kids.

We do not avoid all magic or evil representations. Our main concern is that our children do not see magic as good. The wicked queen is very clearly evil. She is also defeated in the end by good. What bothers us is when "good" characters are practicing magic. We explain to our children that Satan's evil not only exists, but Satan is determined to destroy us. The only way to defeat Satan's attack is through the only power of ultimate good, Jesus Christ.

This said, we allow our kids to enjoy innocent fantasy. They are instructed in the reality of Gods power on a daily basis. Their faith is not challenged by a little make believe.

 

[coffeekk]

I just want to say BRAVO !!!!!to TigrLvsPooh. I enjoyed your replies and understand your points.

 

[eeyore0062]

As interesting as this is, and I have read the entire thing and see many interesting points being made... the original OP hasn't responded since the 3rd page, so at this point we are obviously just debating amongst ourselves and she has gone on with her life.

Personally, I feel that children should not be sheltered from the truths of what others believe, however who am I to thrust my beliefs on someone else? If the OP wants to keep her children from going on certain attractions, that is her right. If she wants to spend money to give her children the experience at Disney (regardless if we may think it is limited), that is her right, too. That is why it is so great to live in the USA--- so many different people living and working side by side (hopefully accepting others). The world would be a pretty boring place if we all believed and did the same things!

 

[ScottieDog]

Our main concern is that our children do not see magic as good. The wicked queen is very clearly evil. She is also defeated in the end by good. What bothers us is when "good" characters are practicing magic. We explain to our children that Satan's evil not only exists, but Satan is determined to destroy us.

Good one 3xthecharm

"When religion ruled the world we called it THE DARK AGES"

Cathryn~

 

[estnh]

I just want to say BRAVO !!!!!to TigrLvsPooh. I enjoyed your replies and understand your points.

Ditto--good job TigrLvsPooh.