ARGH....Dropping DD off and her Teacher...*Warning Vent*

mrsv98

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DD started Kdg a couple of weeks ago. In her school, the kids line up by grade and walk in together. THe Kdg kids stay together and then line up and walk in escorted by chosen 5th graders and usually their teacher. DD wants me to walk her to her classroom door and I do. I give her a hug and a kiss and she walks right in. DD has had separation issues in the past so I am thrilled with how she has started this year.

So here is the vent part. The teacher has been trying to take DD and make her go in on her own. Well, DD will have none of that and gets very upset when she tries. Take in mind, walking her in does not disrupt the routine one iota. I don't go in the classroom, I don't hang around, it is just a quick hug and kiss and that is it. What really bugs me is that we have had the chance to speak to the teacher for about 90 secs so she has no idea what an accomplishment this is for DD. I am trying to say goodbye further from the door everyday, so I am not oblivious and we are trying.

I used to teach Kdg, I totally understand, but come on, I think walking her to class is a LOT less disruptive than a crying upset child in the classroom. I think I am going to have to email the teacher and thus be labled one of "those" mothers. :rolleyes:
 
Just talk to the teacher. I'm sure that she'll understand when she knows what the issue is.
 
My DD's started K this year too. I have been amazed at how little parental involvement is "allowed" in comparison to last year. In Pre-K parents had to walk the kids to and from the classroom, handle coats, boots, etc., and take a second to talk to the teacher.

Now it is "just leave your children at the door and we willl take care of them."

Pretty scary stuff.

I can understand not having parents walking kids to the classroom. The first day of school was a zoo with kids and parents everywhere. I can also understand your daughter needing a transition, especially if she has had problems in the past. I bet if you talked to the teacher and developed some sort of plan with her, she will understand too. As long as she knows there is an end in sight and can see that progress is being made, she should be receptive to your need to walk your daughter to class.

Good luck.

Denae
 
My first dd started Kindergarten in 1997. Her school and teacher were so relaxed, I walked her in almost every day. Now my youngest is in 4th grade at the same school and it is so rigid there! They recommend kids always take the bus and discourage parents walking the kids in.

Every kid is different, my oldest "needed" a ride, my middle felt more comfortable always taking the bus and walking in with the other kids, she hated walking in on her own. She told me it was easier for her to separate from me at the bus. My middle did fine in Kindergarten, but cried in the morning in 1st grade. She said she would have felt so much better if her teacher hugged her, but she was a "buck up" kind of teacher and I think she thought it would be worse if she showed her gentle side (which she really did have). I asked another teacher that I'm friendly with, when do the 1st graders stop crying and she said, oh, about November!

Talk to the teacher, tell her "your" daughter will do better the way you're doing it! Good Luck

Now my kids are 8th, 6th and 4th and I'm the one crying!
 

I'm sorry, but you daughter needs to learn about seperation. Once she sees that she can live without you walking to her class, it will be fine. I guess I think its ok for my child to be upset once in a while and not get her way all the time. :rolleyes:

I believe that in school the teacher is the boss. What are you showing your daughter if you disrespect the teachers wishes? You are letting your daughter be the boss. I just am so not into that.

If you are allowed to do it, than each and every parent needs to be allowed to do it. Then how disruptive would that be
 
Thanks all. :flower:

I have tried to speak to the teacher a couple of times on the playground in the am. She seems distracted even tho she doesn't have to "watch" the kids at that point, most of the parents are there and the 5th graders actually play with them. I am going to email her, explain in more detail and assure her we are working on it. I just didn't want to be a mother with "issues" right off the bat. *sigh*
 
My daughter starts preschool on Thursday and her school has basically the same policy. Thing is, Madison is only 18 months old so to me it seems so young to say goodbye to Mommy at the gate and walk to her classroom. The class assistants walk the kids from the gate to the room, it's not like she'll be alone, but still, I feel like I need to walk her to the door. But of course, that's what I need cause I still think she's a baby, not what she necessarily needs, so hopefully she'll be fine with getting dropped at the gate.

In your case though, you know that your daughter has this need. So what I would do is explain that you're slowly getting more and more removed and that your daughter has made great progress so far. Add in that you were a former K teacher so you understand the need for kids to be independent and you're working towards that but would appreciate some leniency for a couple of weeks. Of course though, you should also be prepared for her to say that it's already been a couple of weeks and their policy is to drop kids off and let them walk in together, despite the tears. I'm sure she'll get over it fairly quickly and be fine with it after the adjustment is made.
 
Remember--one thing teacher is trying to avoid --is other kids who said goodbye to their moms outside and are going to start and wonder why their mom can't walk them in too. It's a delicate balance at that age--and if every child is following the same procedure it works out better--once one child gets to do things differently--it can cause problems.

You daughter sounds like she feels comfortable knowing that when she says goodbye at the door--that her day will now start--and she'll see you at the end of the day. She WILL be able to do that if you say goodbye on the playground when it is time for them to line up. Trusting her teacher is VERY important right now--both for you and for her. Sometimes teachers have procedures that they follow--and those don't always seem important or even sensible to parents who aren't in charge of an entire classroom---but that doesn't mean that procedure wasn't created for a very good reason.
 
I'm on the teacher's side with this one. Besides, isn't this a school policy? Your daughter needs to learn to separate. It shouldn't make a difference whether it's at the front door of the school or at the classroom door. Sounds like a control issue to me.

I used to work with infants in childcare and we would rather deal with a screaming child than have the parents hanging around and making the situation (in the long run) worse. They need to learn to separate and they need to learn that mom/dad will come back for them.
 
mrsv98 said:
I think I am going to have to email the teacher and thus be labled one of "those" mothers. :rolleyes:

IMO that is a label of a concerned and caring parent! I have the same label for different reasons! I would support what you are trying to do by working with the teacher.
 
Auggietina said:
I'm sorry, but you daughter needs to learn about seperation. Once she sees that she can live without you walking to her class, it will be fine.

I have to agree with this statement. How can saying goodbye at the lineup outside the school be any different than saying goodbye at the classroom door? Tell the child that mom will wait outside and watch her walk in, but can't go in with her. Seems like a good transition rather than inching your way from the door each day to say goodbye.
 
justhat said:
My daughter starts preschool on Thursday and her school has basically the same policy. Thing is, Madison is only 18 months old so to me it seems so long to say goodbye to Mommy at the gate and walk to her classroom. The class assistants walk the kids from the gate to the room, it's not like she'll be alone, but still, I feel like I need to walk her to the door. But of course, that's what I need cause I still think she's a baby, not what she necessarily needs, so hopefully she'll be fine with getting dropped at the gate.

If I'm reading this right, your daughter is 18 months old and you still think she's a baby? Well, I think that age IS still a baby! If she's fine with leaving you at the gate, then I guess there isn't a problem. If she cried I would NEVER leave her at the gate, and I would certainly take her all the way into the room.
 
Sleepy said:
I have to agree with this statement. How can saying goodbye at the lineup outside the school be any different than saying goodbye at the classroom door? Tell the child that mom will wait outside and watch her walk in, but can't go in with her. Seems like a good transition rather than inching your way from the door each day to say goodbye.


I agree.
 
When I taught pre-K, I would get annoyed at the parents who would linger. I could never get them to believe that their child really would stop crying sooner if they just left.

As a parent, I was heartbroken when I couldn't take my son right in to his kindergarten classroom, and see him at his little desk and give him just one more hug and kiss.

So I can see both sides of the situation. Ultimately, I think it would be best if you did as the teacher requested. The other kids (and parents) in her class are going to wonder why your dd is getting this special treatment.
 
I was the same way when my kids were little.
They have a name for people like us..... we are called "Helicopter Parents" :teeth:
It is common for parents who are Baby Boomers to parent like this. Some even carry it over to when their child enters COLLEGE!!! :earseek:

ARTICLE........
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/08/29/helicopter.parents.ap/

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COLLEGES TRY TO CONTEND WITH HOVERING PARENTS

Monday, August 29, 2005; Posted: 10:16 a.m. EDT (14:16 GMT)
HAMILTON, New York (AP)

-- They're called "helicopter parents," for their habit of hovering -- hyper-involved -- over their children's lives. Here at Colgate University, as elsewhere, they have become increasingly bold in recent years, telephoning administrators to complain about their children's housing assignments, roommates and grades.

Recently, one parent demanded to know what Colgate planned to do about the sub-par plumbing her daughter encountered on a study-abroad trip to China.

"That's just part of how this generation has been raised," said Mark Thompson, head of Colgate's counseling services. "You add a $40,000 price tag for a school like Colgate, and you have high expectations for what you get."

For years, officials here responded to such calls by biting their lips and making an effort to keep parents happy.

But at freshman orientation here last week, parents heard a different message: Colgate is making educating students a higher priority than customer service. The liberal arts college of 2,750 students has concluded helicopter parenting has gotten out of hand, undermining the out-of-the-classroom lessons on problem-solving, seeking help and compromise that should be part of a college education.

Those lessons can't be learned if the response to every difficulty is a call to mom and dad for help.

"We noticed what everybody else noticed. We have a generation of parents that are heavily involved in their students lives and it causes all sorts of problems," said Dean of the College Adam Weinberg. College, he said, should be "a time when you go from living in someone else's house to becoming a functioning, autonomous person."

Colgate says it has ample resources to help students. But when parents call, unless there's a safety risk, they're usually told to encourage their children to seek out those resources themselves.

As for the China inquiry, Weinberg said, "we tried to explain in the 21st century, the ability to plop down in a foreign country and hit the ground running is a fundamental skill."

Heightened parental involvement is one of the biggest changes on college campuses in the last decade, experts say. One major reason is the tight bond between Baby Boomer parents and their children.

"This is a group of parents who have been more involved in their children's development since in utero on than any generation in American history," said Helen E. Johnson, author of "Don't Tell Me What To Do, Just Send Money," a guide for college parents. "I think colleges have been far too responsive in inappropriate ways to this very savvy group of consumers."

Another factor is cell phones. The era of the 10-minute weekly check-in from the pay phone in the hall has given way to nearly constant contact. Rob Sobelman, a Colgate sophomore, says when students walk out of a test, many dial home immediately to report how it went. One friend checks in with her mother every night before going to sleep, he said.

"Even 10 years ago, parents couldn't even get hold of their children," said Colgate President Rebecca Chopp. "If you reached them once a week it was a miracle." Now she says she's hearing from older alumni who are "worried their grandchildren won't learn accountability and responsibility."

Many schools have noticed the trend, but they've been reluctant to alienate parents. Some have tried to accommodate the change, opening parental liaison offices, for instance.

But some schools, while glad to see parents care, are expressing concern over the downside. During freshman orientation this year at Northeastern University in Boston, Massachusetts, administrators urged parents not to call their children but to let them call home when they want to talk. At Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, upperclassmen perform skits about healthy transitioning for parents. The University of Vermont hires students as "parent bouncers" to delicately keep parents from interfering in, for instance, meetings with advisers.

At Colgate, parents used to receive a sheet listing administrators' phone numbers. This year, they got a statement about Colgate's philosophy of self-reliance -- a message that was hammered home repeatedly in talks by administrators. Next year, the school may assign parents summer reading on the transition to college.

The approach will continue throughout the year, part of a larger emphasis at Colgate on "teachable moments" outside the classroom. A memo sent to departments ranging from residential life to counseling to public safety reminds employees: "We will not solve problems for students because it robs students of an opportunity to learn."

Mike Herling, a 1979 graduate with sons in the sophomore and freshman classes, said he welcomes the approach.

"It's the intercession on a regular basis they're trying to discourage, and I think it's important they do," he said. "Kids are much more self-confident and develop better decision-making skills if they're given the opportunity to make decisions for themselves."

But Colgate acknowledges not all parents will be happy, and that there have already been unpleasant calls.

"We get quoted the price tag frequently," said Dean of Student Affairs Jim Terhune. "But what you're paying for is an education, not a room at the Sheraton, and sometimes that education is uncomfortable."

Says Thompson, the counseling director and the parent of a college student himself: "I don't want them to be happy today. I want them to be happy a decade from now."
 
mrsv98 said:
Thanks all. :flower:

I am going to email her, explain in more detail and assure her we are working on it. I just didn't want to be a mother with "issues" right off the bat. *sigh*

Your daughter sounds a lot like my youngest when she was that age. And, as a former first grade teacher, I can see both sides that you're dealing with. On the one hand, you want to make separation as easy as possible for your daughter, but you also don't want to go against the rules of the Kindergarten teacher.

I would certainly e-mail the teacher and explain the situation. Every child is different and if your child takes a little longer to separate in the morning, and it is NOT creating any kind of a disturbance, then I would hope the teacher would understand. It sounds like each day is getting a little better and before long I bet your daughter will be able to walk in with the other kids.

Never forget that YOU know your child best. After teaching for fifteen years I've come to believe wholeheartedly that parents are the best advocates for their children, and if you don't speak up for your child, the problems might not get resolved.
 
pw2pp said:
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I was the same way when my kids were little. They have a name for people like us..... we are called "Helicopter Parents" :teeth:
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Hi, my name is Luvflorida and I'm a Helicopter Parent." :teeth:
 
I'm so fortunate to have had my children in schools which didn't have set "rules" governing parents walking their children to the classroom until 2nd grade, but let parents make the decision for their child. Some parents had carpools in 3K, so said good-bye at home. Others (although only a couple)walked their children to the classroom all the way through 1st grade. The students seemed to accept that some parents did, others didn't. My children let me know when they were ready to let go, and I did.

I walked DD to her kindergarten room every day. She is a self-sufficient college senior who has travelled abroad many times, spent a semester in a 3rd world country with minimal difficulties, drives from FL to PA by herself, lived by herself over the summer, and only calls once a week or so.

I did the same with DS, and he is also an independent guy, but doesn't like to travel. However, he fixes his own meals, works independently, etc.
 
I also think that you need to follow the teachers rules. You are saying to your daughter that she doesn't have to follow the rules if you don't like them. For a few weeks, you've been sayign good bye at the classroom, I dont' see what the big deal is about saying your goodbyes at the playground. Your DD is 5. You can explain this to her. She will be fine. It may take a few days, but I bet she gets right over it.
 
luvflorida said:
Hi, my name is Luvflorida and I'm a Helicopter Parent." :teeth:

Me too! My 1st grader started school last week and I have walked her to the door of her classroom almost every day. I waved good-bye from the outside door to the school this morning. Thank goodness her school doesn't have a problem with that, or volunteering in the classroom. They are open and welcoming. I plan on volunteering on a weekly basis starting next week.

mrsv98: I think the idea of an email is a good one. Sure, your DD will need to learn to seperate from you, but there is no reason to make it harder on you or her. If your teacher is a good one, she will work with you to make the transition easier for everyone.
 


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