Are Strip Clubs Normal/Acceptable?

[Planogirl]

How big is the community where these people live? I never hear about strip clubs here even though they're out there. I can't imagine everyone knowing anything about it unless it's a real unusual thing in the area?

 

[ticktock]

I asked my DH what he thought about this and this was his reply...

This is an example of the pornification of America. I have often wondered how I would explain to a daughter the skin magazines objectifying women behind a store counter. Now here is a situation where a Father is justifying to an 11 year old that he is basically being a pimp. It is pimping...just a different type of pimping than running a string of hookers. The man as every right to do this, but just because you have the legal right does not make it the right thing to do...... It's sleazy... Mr. Ticktock

My 14 year old DS said he wouldn't want to be related to a man who did this.

 

[chicagodisneyfan]

I would also agree that it doesn't matter if it's an expensive "gentlemen's club," which is an oxymoron in any event. Dirtbags are dirtbags, whether or not they have a big bank account.

I really do not see the why a man who likes to look at naked women is a "dirtbag".

"HELLO men of the DIS - you there - you like nekkid women? - you are a dirtbag!"

 

[ChrisFL]

I really do not see the why a man who likes to look at naked women is a "dirtbag".

"HELLO men of the DIS - you there - you like nekkid women? - you are a dirtbag!"

Exactly, it's human nature, no matter how many people try to deny it. It's better to have a legal outlet for these things IMO than causing other social issues by it being illegal.

I also don't see how "a few miles away" is considered close to a school, it isn't as if it's right next door.

 

[mrdiscranky]

I really do not see the why a man who likes to look at naked women is a "dirtbag".

"HELLO men of the DIS - you there - you like nekkid women? - you are a dirtbag!"

As a man of the DIS, I can honestly say I like looking at nekkid women. Semi-nekkid too. DW thinks this is a *good* thing.

That said, nekkid women are like the sun. Staring at them for too long can lead to trouble. Been to a few strip clubs for bachelor parties, that sort of thing. Always had a good time. Once or twice even without an "excuse" - other than the like to look at nekkid women thing - but it's just not the same.

I don't think this makes me a dirtbag. I wonder if the DIS women who like to share topless pictures of Johnny Depp are dirtbags.

 

[WeCantWait]

I would be pretty upset.

 

[imabrat]

If it's in an area where students have to pass the club to get to and from school every schoolday, I'd be upset.

I'd also be mortified if my dad owned a strip club. And to those who say "just tell the peers her dad owns a club/bar" it's not going to work. Kids are cruel these days and word will get out. Some kids will do anything just to embarrass another.
I just find it inappropriate. Wouldn't it be better to wait until she's older? To me, having her dad open and own a strip club would be like saying it's okay to pay a woman money to show off her "stuff".

IDK, it's just really odd and gross to me. But if it's legal and it makes him happy, do it. Just be prepared for some negative remarks.
JMO.

 

[Michelle67]

I wonder if the DIS women who like to share topless pictures of Johnny Depp are dirtbags.

WAIT! Hold everything! Where are THOSE?

I am, indeed, a dirt-baguette.

Ticktock, my husband and yours would probably get along quite well. He is very anti-porn in any form.

 

[amyhughes]

I personally have no "issue" with strip clubs. Have been to a couple in my life and while I personally did not LOVE the experience I did like talking to the girls who were working. I agree with the above posters, human beings like to see each other nekkid, always have always will. If we didn't our like the view of someone else's flesh our species would end. But I digress.

My "issue" is being a parent you try to make your children's life as easy as can be. Could he open another club or bar that did not have a pre disposed reputation in some circles that would affect his child in a negative manner? I don't care how open minded an 11 year old is, she isn't making business decisions and probably can't see further down the road than next week.

I also agree with an above poster, would he encourage HIS daughter to work there?

 

[lillygator]

I really do not see the why a man who likes to look at naked women is a "dirtbag".

"HELLO men of the DIS - you there - you like nekkid women? - you are a dirtbag!"

exactly. Most men and some women as well, are very visual - I really don't see an issue with strip clubs as long as everything is legal.

Next door to a school? IDK, what are the hours of operation?

And the Chinese place...if you can't spin the adult store deal, find a new Chinese place!

And I don't buy the whole exploitation thing either. Strippers know what they are doing. Showing off a great body and making money...most of the men stop in to get turned on before they go home.

I just don't feel they are as horrific as most people make them out to be....and I would bet that majority is women.

 

[Cool-Beans]

What happens if the strip club guy gets pissed off that there's a school just a few miles away?

If my friend asked my opinion, I'd tell her that if she's that intent on totally sheltering her children from the world that she should change schools...or maybe just consider home schooling. If she home-schools, then the kid could get to 18 years and never have any experience at all with the big, bad world out there.

 

[JohnZ46]

I don't get strip clubs.

To me, it's like being on a diet and hanging out at a bakery.

 

[Buckalew11]

Ex is trying to put the club in a very high-end area. It's a nice suburb and there will undoubtedly be an uproar. It is supposedly going to be an upscale gentleman's club. Peg says calling it a gentleman's club is just putting perfume on a skunk.

Peg is horrified that her Ex is going to make money off of young women's bodies and the example that sets for their young daughter.

As the mom of a DD, I'd be horrified also. I am sure she would be too.

Just because one has a right to do something doesn't make it a good idea.

I'd be livid. People will know who owns it, and it will be awkward for the children. There are stories in our local newspaper every so often about the ones in our town.

I would also agree that it doesn't matter if it's an expensive "gentlemen's club," which is an oxymoron in any event. Dirtbags are dirtbags, whether or not they have a big bank account.

Actually, I agree with this. However, I would not voice my thoughts in RL about it. That is just me. As long as my DH doesn't visit them and they are legal, I'm a live and let live kind of girl. But, in my head I'm thinking dirtbag.

And I don't buy the whole exploitation thing either. Strippers know what they are doing. Showing off a great body and making money...most of the men stop in to get turned on before they go home.

I just don't feel they are as horrific as most people make them out to be....and I would bet that majority is women.

I do look at it as exploitation even though I realize no one is making anyone work there.
Thankfully, I know how to turn my DH on w/o him needing to stop at a strip club on the way home!!

BTW, most men don't have much trouble getting turned on. Women tend to be the "crockpots", so to speak. I find it crazy to think a man needs to stop at a strip club in order to get turned on and go home to his mate.

 

[Michelle67]

BTW, most men don't have much trouble getting turned on. Women tend to be the "crockpots", so to speak

That made me laugh. I've never heard the crockpot analogy before, but I have informed my husband that men are coin operated and women are not.

 

[Buckalew11]

...but I have informed my husband that men are coin operated and women are not.

 

[HelenePA]

Okay, one of my friends in high school's parents, yes both mom and dad owned a strip club.. small school everyone knows everyone, did the dd care? Nope, did anyone in school?... Nope

Here is the funny thing it was RIGHT across the street from a police station. I actually knew a cop from one town over who's wife WORKED there.. and I dont mean as a waitress...

 

[SandraVB79]

IMO, it's acceptable/ normal.
Heck, if I weren't too fat, I would be dancing at the Moulin Rouge or Lido!

So, no, it wouldn't upset me.

ETA: to all who say the women are exploited: If the buesiness is legally ran, the women there are not forced to strip, it is their choice. They are not any more exploited than Hannah Montana or whatever her name is, etc. There are also managers making money because she looks great/ acts/ yada yada.

 

[sdarwkcabemanmy]

I haven't read all the responses but here's my $0.02---

Strip clubs have their place. It isn't near a school, but they do have their place. If a woman wants to dance around on a giant pole in ankle-killing heels and a guy wants to watch and pay her money for doing it, that's their business.

Strip clubs don't bother me at all, unless they are too close to a school or place of worship.

I guess I'm just open minded though.

 

[Momma Rabbit]

I don't see what the big deal is. My DD went to an elementary school that was maybe 30 steps away from a strip club. The club opened at noon and had a huge sign out front that said "hot women, cold beer." In my daughter's three years attending that school nothing notable happened. Naked women were not parading about and I never seen men loitering outside.

As far as the Dad owing the club. Unless it's a very small town I don't see everyone would know who owned it.

 

[Castlebound]

In the St. Louis area we have East St. Louis where there are several strip clubs. They were there before I was born and I knew about them growing up. My kids know that they are there and it is no big deal. When I was a kid living in St. Louis adult book stores were very popular in St. Louis and there were a couple near my Catholic school. During the 70's and early 80's I think that people were less uptight about sex. I remember when they changed the laws to state that adult stores could not show their products in the storefront windows that was in the mid 80's, I think.
I have no idea who owns any of the strip clubs in my area and I don't care. I been by them when the joints are hopping and I have never seen anything wrong. Your kids stand a better chance of seeing more skin at a water park than driving or walking by a strip club. If the exh is smart he will form a company to buy the club so that the club is owned by XXX inc. not John Doe. The exwife has no say in what exh does and she will just have to deal with it the best she can. There is such a thing as an upscale gentlemen's club and they can make a lot of money. The women who work in those clubs want to work there. Not everyone wants a "normal" job.