Are Disney prices too high?

[rajak73]

I've never read something more silly in my life.

Then you aren't familiar with Walt as a businessman.

The man was a creative genius and he had an artist's temperament to go along with that. He wanted to see and do great things, but he was not a good businessman - by his own admission. He bankrupted his first company and was never really financially sound.

But heck, don't take my word for it: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/13/b...isionary-who-was-crazy-like-a-mouse.html?_r=0

And if I remember on the backstage tour, the guide said Walt had to sell his first creation because he was broke. And Walt wasn't buying Florida land, his companies made up by others were.

 

[flicx]

Here is some interesting reading for everyone! http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...-worse-before-it.aspx?source=eogyholnk0000001 Seems building actual attractions and spending money on customer satisfaction has yielded universal some super results. Universal is taking a page out of Disney's former management teams book. Build attractions and the money will roll in. The whole jack up prices and take things away isn't gonna work for long!

 

[johde]

The prices of many things Disney are getting too expensive for me. That being said, if you look around there are still some "values" to be had. I'm not going to go so far as to say cheap. But, for a theme park, there are some decent deals. For example, most of the table service places seem outrageous to me. I find much better table serve "bargains" at Universal. But, counter service has some good deals if you look for them. At $11.99, the steak from ABC commissary was pretty good and not that much more expensive than you'd spend for steak anywhere else and only a couple of dollars more than a hamburger.


I had them swap out the fries for the rice pilaf which they did no problem.

 

[Davey Jones II]

I only care when it effects me. Like last years Villians Soriee removing Villians from the crowds in favor of people willing to spend more $ to meet them exclusively.

Yeah, there are so many upcharge special events now that it is really starting to encroach on the enjoyment of all the regular guests. Every time you can pay for fireworks/parade viewing, for example, that means less prime viewing spots available for the guests trying to hold a spot in advance.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

And if I remember on the backstage tour, the guide said Walt had to sell his first creation because he was broke. And Walt wasn't buying Florida land, his companies made up by others were.

Oswalt the rabbit was by contract owned by the theater owner as soon as he showed them....a fancy contract legally stole Oswald from Walt which is why Disney is so protective of there character properties.

When Disney Inc started buying land they used 5 or 6 fake companies to keep the prices from soaring to $2500 a acre. Disney owned the fake companies.

Btw....Disney recently bought Oswald back.

AKK

 

[DisneyPrince1982]

Oswalt the rabbit was by contract owned by the theater owner as soon as he showed them....a fancy contract legally stole Oswald from Walt which is why Disney is so protective of there character properties.

When Disney Inc started buying land they used 5 or 6 fake companies to keep the prices from soaring to $2500 a acre. Disney owned the fake companies.

AKK

You speak the truth

 

[bcrook]

When compared, to other entertainment venues, parks, concerts, SPORTS, they are ALL charging high prices, as much as they can. a family of four , for a 3 hour baseball game, $400.00.easy, yet Disney is a whole day.

If there is ever a back lash......then that is when they will have to cut back. They are spending billions now to improve the parks as well.


AKK

There are lots of games in St. Louis that the Cardinals have $5.00 tickets or $10.00 tickets or discounts or Groupons. The local amphitheater also has discounted tickets on the slow days. Plus it is only one day or evening. Those types of venues could never sustain themselves if their customers spent 5-7 days at their location.

I don't see very many similarities between Disney and Sports events.

 

[bcrook]

The CC hold isn't a money grab, it is was there wouldn't be a 24 hour window for cancellations without penalty. It was put in place to slow down the double booking of restaurants by adding a hurdle that has a monetary penalty. Don't no show or cancel in the amount of time and you are not out a cent.

When guests attempt to use the system in a way Disney doesn't want you to Disney has to implement mitigation controls. The CC hold was one of them, nothing more.

Sorry this is pure nonsense. Of course it is a money grab. When I can't cancel a reservation for Nine Dragons at an empty restaurant four or five hours before my reservation... It is a money grab. As for character meet and greets - I get it. But I don't for Boatwrights, Olivias, Marrakesh, Kona, Grand Floridian Cafe, etc....

 

[10-4 Good Buddy]

Sorry this is pure nonsense. Of course it is a money grab. When I can't cancel a reservation for Nine Dragons at an empty restaurant four or five hours before my reservation... It is a money grab. As for character meet and greets - I get it. But I don't for Boatwrights, Olivias, Marrakesh, Kona, Grand Floridian Cafe, etc....

I don't eat out enough to know, but do other restaurants outside of Disney World charge you if you cancel your reservation on the day of the reservation?

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

There are lots of games in St. Louis that the Cardinals have $5.00 tickets or $10.00 tickets or discounts or Groupons. The local amphitheater also has discounted tickets on the slow days. Plus it is only one day or evening. Those types of venues could never sustain themselves if their customers spent 5-7 days at their location.

I don't see very many similarities between Disney and Sports events.

Sorry totally incorrect, maybe their are discounts in St Lois, but it is $400 for a average family of 4 to go to a game, park and buy average tickets a snack, etc
The football industry....try and buy a.Giants ticket or.Patriots ticket.....they are though the roof. A big name.rock concret.....it's at least $65 to sit with thw.pigeons and in the thousands for.down front.

Ever park at a.sport game, $25.00 and up.
And that is for a 3 hour show not a whole day.

So the bottom line is Disney look cheap compared to.them.

AKK

 

[bcrook]

Sorry totally incorrect, maybe their are discounts in St Lois, but it is $400 for a average family of 4 to go to a game, park and buy average tickets a snack, etc
The football industry....try and buy a.Giants ticket or.Patriots ticket.....they are though the roof. A big name.rock concret.....it's at least $65 to sit with thw.pigeons and in the thousands for.down front.

Ever park at a.sport game, $25.00 and up.
And that is for a 3 hour show not a whole day.

So the bottom line is Disney look cheap compared to.them.

AKK

You are not even trying to understand what I am saying. Moving on. Just keep posting that Sporting Events are expensive and Disney is a bargain. Honestly, I don't know how people can say that a Disney trip is a bargain or even reasonable with a straight face. It's not like a ball game. Its not a concert. Its a week long spending extravaganza. For my upcoming trip, I am basically paying a day's ticket price for two days just so I can come in and buy overpriced drinks and food from kiosks. I have a great time doing it. I save my money and use my rewards card points... But paying a $70.00 cover charge is also outrageous (that is what my AP is averaging out to for me).

When people plan a Disney trip - the first thing I tell them is...It's complicated. Second I tell them, It is going to cost a lot of money. I would never tell them that it is cost effective. smh.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Sorry this is pure nonsense. Of course it is a money grab. When I can't cancel a reservation for Nine Dragons at an empty restaurant four or five hours before my reservation... It is a money grab. As for character meet and greets - I get it. But I don't for Boatwrights, Olivias, Marrakesh, Kona, Grand Floridian Cafe, etc....

There is no money grab.....when guests book 2, 3 or more reservations, becuase they won't make up thierinds which they want, preventing others from getting a reservation......thats the problem, ...not the.new system of a deposit.....reports are it has opened lots of reservations for everyone, not just the ones who think is ok to hog reservations.

AKK

 

[bcrook]

I don't eat out enough to know, but do other restaurants outside of Disney World charge you if you cancel your reservation on the day of the reservation?

For chain restaurants or similar quality (like Disney) most certainly not. Especially not at restaurants that are not difficult to get in. If I have a reservation for 7 at Olivia's for breakfast at 10:30 am, and I wake up at 7:00 am and decide to go to DHS instead I should be able to call and cancel with no problems. But that would cost me $70.00!

If you use something like Open Table, you can cancel.

 

[bcrook]

There is no money grab.....when guests book 2, 3 or more reservations, becuase they won't make up thierinds which they want, preventing others from getting a reservation......thats the problem, ...not the.new system of a deposit.....reports are it has opened lots of reservations for everyone, not just the ones who think is ok to hog reservations.

AKK

For a 4:00 reservation at Tokyo Dining? When the place is completely empty? This isn't even logical.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

You are not even trying to understand what I am saying. Moving on. Just keep posting that Sporting Events are expensive and Disney is a bargain. Honestly, I don't know how people can say that a Disney trip is a bargain or even reasonable with a straight face. It's not like a ball game. Its not a concert. Its a week long spending extravaganza. For my upcoming trip, I am basically paying a day's ticket price for two days just so I can come in and by overpriced drinks and food from kiosks. I have a great time doing it. I save my money and use my rewards card points... But paying a $70.00 over charge is also outrageous (that is what my AP is averaging out to for me).

When people plan a Disney trip - the first thing I tell them is...It's complicated. Second I tell them, It is going to cost a lot of money. I would never tell them that it is cost effective. smh.

My.point is when compared to other entertainment venues Disney is a full day of top of the line entertainments which is alot more cost effective then sports or concerts or other parks.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

For a 4:00 reservation at Tokyo Dining? When the place is completely empty? This isn't even logical.

Yes very much so, don't blame Disney and not blame the rest if us happy we can get reser atio. Now, blame the people with more then one reservation.

AKK

 

[bcrook]

Yes very much so, don't blame Disney and not blame the rest if us happy we can get reser atio.

Now, blame the people with more then one reservation.

AKK

I can't understand the first part of your statement.
And your second point is based on mythology. Misinformation at its best.

 

[GreatLakes]

Sorry this is pure nonsense. Of course it is a money grab. When I can't cancel a reservation for Nine Dragons at an empty restaurant four or five hours before my reservation... It is a money grab. As for character meet and greets - I get it. But I don't for Boatwrights, Olivias, Marrakesh, Kona, Grand Floridian Cafe, etc....

No, it isn't.

The cc hold isn't to stop double bookings at the slower restaurants, it is to stop them at the busier restaurants or at the busier times of the year. It is easier to just implement the policy property-wide then it is to pick and choose where you need to enforce it. I don't think it is necessary at the slower restaurants myself but understand why they felt the need to implement the policy and why they just did it for all restaurants.

Double booking ADRs was very much a problem and resulted in lower availability so this is how they choose to try and slow that practice. I foresee other changes to the ADR system to address the recently reported issue about booking reservations for other people as a business model.

I have never made an ADR I didn't intend to keep and so far haven't had to pay a cent to Disney because of this policy.

 

[10-4 Good Buddy]

There is no money grab.....when guests book 2, 3 or more reservations, becuase they won't make up thierinds which they want, preventing others from getting a reservation......thats the problem, ...not the.new system of a deposit.....reports are it has opened lots of reservations for everyone, not just the ones who think is ok to hog reservations.

AKK

Yes very much so, don't blame Disney and not blame the rest if us happy we can get reser atio. Now, blame the people with more then one reservation.

AKK

No, it isn't.

The cc hold isn't to stop double bookings at the slower restaurants, it is to stop them at the busier restaurants or at the busier times of the year. It is easier to just implement the policy property-wide then it is to pick and choose where you need to enforce it. I don't think it is necessary at the slower restaurants myself but understand why they felt the need to implement the policy and why they just did it for all restaurants.

Double booking ADRs was very much a problem and resulted in lower availability so this is how they choose to try and slow that practice. I foresee other changes to the ADR system to address the recently reported issue about booking reservations for other people as a business model.

I have never made an ADR I didn't intend to keep and so far haven't had to pay a cent to Disney because of this policy.

I really don't see how the CC guarantee prevents anyone from making multiple reservations on the same day. I can go online and make several dinner reservations for the same day using the same credit card. It doesn't stop me at all.

If the purpose of the CC guarantee is to prevent or minimize folks from making multiple reservations they don't intend to keep, why can I still go online and make as many reservations as I want for the same day using the same credit card? As long as I cancel them the day before except the one I intend to keep, it hasn't hampered me at all.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I really don't see how the CC guarantee prevents anyone from making multiple reservations on the same day. I can go online and make several dinner reservations for the same day using the same credit card. It doesn't stop me at all.

If the purpose of the CC guarantee is to prevent or minimize folks from making multiple reservations they don't intend to keep, they could prevent more than 2 or 3 same day reservations from being made with the same CC. But they don't.

No garrenttee but it has reduced the people who were doing it... and that makes it better for everyone except those who seem to think they are in titled to make multi reservations.

As to preventing the reservations on one Crider card , if someone is willing.to.risk that much money nothing will stop.them.

AKK