Anyone's MIL do this? Year after year?

Hugs to you. It sounds exactly like what I (and a few others have pointed out)...a control issue. My grandmother favored my sister HEAVILY as well. I was younger than your DD and felt the sting even then. My suggestion is to hand the gift back to grandma and tell her that unless she comes bearing a token for both kids, then nobody gets anything.

Anyhoo, it bears repeating. If you can give the gifts to your kids BEFORE grandma has a chance to trump you, DO IT. LEt her have to wear egg on her face or return some gifts for a change.

Thank you for your insights and backing me up. It is like you are right in my head because you totally get what I am saying. I don't dislike my MIL, but neither am I in love with her. I think she is mostly well intentioned, but has definite control issues. I abhore the favoritism and we have tried several angles to get it to stop. It is sooo hard confronting her and handing back the gift for DS after it has been given. Now I really want DH to march back up there with those d%!@ pajama pants and tell her againg that she has to stop. It's not so much that she get defensive, but she gets all frail acting like we are just killing her for pointing out her hurtful actions. Very controlling.

I don't know- I'm sick over trying to justify our situation and wish I had never posted. I will just give the gifts as planned and it will go over as me looking like a monster to her because I 'knew' that she got the bean bag 'first' but whatever. Maybe I should just adopt her attitude and 'not care' how my actions make others feel for a change and let her deal with it like she makes us deal with her.

Now I feel all angry and vindictive, but I will tell DH he can handle it however he wants, but I am moving ahead with my holiday plans.
 
Oh I wish I had this problem, mine is the opposite. DD wants Sponge Bob slippers at Target (yes I can't stand S.B., but oh well), I told her to ask Grandma for them for her birthday. Now I'll give you a big hint why I am frustrated... my MIL works at a store with a big BULLSEYE on the front! But she can't be bothered shopping off a list. She either (1) gives the kids money to buy their own gifts or (2) takes them shopping to pick out gifts, makes them wrap their own gifts and then wait until b-day/holiday to open them and 'act surprised'. I have even offered to go out and pick up gifts for her so she can surprise my DD. I am just annoyed since DD is still young, she loves the anticipation of unwrapping a gift and having no clue what is inside.

But when it comes to her boyfriend, she goes holiday/birthday shopping for him and plans surprises. It is not the point of the gift, but after a while even the kids can tell where her priorities are and it hurts!
 
No, scrap that. I was upset. I will let this go and she can do her thing. I can't control her and I can't let her issues make me upset. I will do the list thing from here on out that some of you have suggested and we will move on. I will tellthe kids to start saying they will get a list to her when she starts asking. And then this is over. Too much drama over presents, for goodness sakes. I know what kind of people we are (DH, kids and myself) and we are above this.

Have a good day.
 
Thank you for your insights and backing me up. It is like you are right in my head because you totally get what I am saying. I don't dislike my MIL, but neither am I in love with her. I think she is mostly well intentioned, but has definite control issues. I abhore the favoritism and we have tried several angles to get it to stop. It is sooo hard confronting her and handing back the gift for DS after it has been given. Now I really want DH to march back up there with those d%!@ pajama pants and tell her againg that she has to stop. It's not so much that she get defensive, but she gets all frail acting like we are just killing her for pointing out her hurtful actions. Very controlling.

I don't know- I'm sick over trying to justify our situation and wish I had never posted. I will just give the gifts as planned and it will go over as me looking like a monster to her because I 'knew' that she got the bean bag 'first' but whatever. Maybe I should just adopt her attitude and 'not care' how my actions make others feel for a change and let her deal with it like she makes us deal with her.

Now I feel all angry and vindictive, but I will tell DH he can handle it however he wants, but I am moving ahead with my holiday plans.

1. :rolleyes: Whatever....like water off a ducks back, just let it roll off. She'll get over it and maybe eventually LEARN to back the heck off like you asked. If she doesn't. Too bad for her.

2.:thumbsup2 You got it sistah!

3. :cheer2: Now you're talkin'!
 

Oh my goodness.

I will pretend that you meant that post with total helpfulness instead of the catty way it came across.

We do these things with our children. We teach them how to give back and to volunteer. They are both scouts and I am the girl scout leader to name one area where we work on a service model. It is ridiculous to assume this is all about money and not about power. Please do not assume.

No need to pretend anything. :) It's unfortunate that you think there could have been a motive to my comments other than an alternative perspective. :)
 
No, scrap that. I was upset. I will let this go and she can do her thing. I can't control her and I can't let her issues make me upset. I will do the list thing from here on out that some of you have suggested and we will move on. I will tellthe kids to start saying they will get a list to her when she starts asking. And then this is over. Too much drama over presents, for goodness sakes. I know what kind of people we are (DH, kids and myself) and we are above this.

Have a good day.
:goodvibes :thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2:thumbsup2
 
So, the issue really isn't the Christmas present thing, as much as it is the lack of respect for the boundaries you & DH try to set, which MIL does not adhere to, and the favoritism shown to one child over the other. That wasn't quite evident in your first post, but became more evident with subsequent posts.

So, what to do?

You need to determine if this is a hill you want to die on, if DH will be supportive of you in doing so and how far you want to go. Frankly, without DH's support, you're not going to get anywhere. So, discuss that part with him first.

If it's a hill you both decide you want to die on, then whatever gifts Grandma gives that are repeats of yours, that you requested she NOT get your children, you ask her for the receipt so you can return them. This will cause the ensuing drama/trauma, with manipulation etc., probably a family fight involving DH's other sibs, your FIL (if he is alive) and perhaps extended aunts & uncles. It might be worth it to you it might not be. Only you & DH can decide that. And with each phone call regarding said trauma, you will need to learn and continuously repeat the same "mantra", without veering from it, without arguing, without losing your cool, without feeling any need to justify anything any further beyond your "mantra"...something to the effect of "We told MIL that we were purchasing XY&Z for Billy & AB&C for Susie, and she purchased duplicate gifts anyway. The kids certainly don't need 2 of them, so we are returning hers and will purchase something else". The ONLY successful way to deal with manipulation, regardless of where it comes from, is by repeating the same response until the manipulators learn that no matter what they say or do, you aren't changing your mind. This advice comes from years of dealing with substance abusers as a nurse and a super-crazy & super-manipulative SIL.

Of course, if you want to make your whole life a lot easier, then do the "Grandma List" thing for Christmas, and tell the kids that whenever Grandma asks them what they want, they should tell her "what we put on the list we gave you".

With regard to the favoritism (which to me would be the bigger issue but that's just me)...that's very simple...if Grandma doesn't give something to both kids, then she doesn't give something to one, with the exception being their birthday, which is an individual celebration, unless, of course, they are twins. And the gifts must be equivalent, because Grandma sounds like the type who would bring the favorite a Wii and the non-favorite a piece of gum and then say "Well, I brought them each something". So, the "surprise I love you" gifts need to be "equivalent". So if DS gets lounging pants, DD gets lounging pants or a cute top or a fancy hair doodad...you know what I mean...something that a little girl would consider equivalent to her brother's lounging pants. DS does not get lounging pants while DD gets a sticker. And if that did not happen, then I would, unfortunately, take the item that Grandma gave DS and return it to Grandma, while saying to DS "I'm sorry Billy but Grandma can't bring you something really nice without bringing Susie something really nice and as often as we tell Grandma this she doesn't seem to get it. I know you understand that it's not fair to Susie that you always get gifts when she doesn't. Maybe someday Grandma will remember that we love you both equally and treat you both equally". If you have raised your kids as well as it sounds like you have raised them, then Billy will understand, even if it might be a little hard for a 10 year old. But kids are pretty smart...you'd be amazed.

Again, the key is to remain calm and cool, as soon as you lose your cool, you have lost the battle. And it will be a battle, until the "new normal" that you are proposing becomes a habit.

Please don't think that changing these behaviors is going to be easy. It will not be. Once my late DMIL died, my crazy SIL took years to get under control (DMIL was her enabler, always letting her get away with stuff to "not cauise a family rift") to the point where one could have a reasonable conversation with her, and that was after me literally telling her that she added nothing to my life and if she didn't stop that I would write her off as if she never existed. And even then, her first repsonse was "I don't think you have the nerve to do that" to which I responded "I don't think you have the nerve to test me". I was right, she hasn't had the nerve to test me. I had also found her "Achille Heel" which was the fact that she did not want to lose contact with her family. But it took many years and many confrontations, discussions, attempts at manipulation etc.

It's quite draining. OP. I wish you well....
 
No need to pretend anything. :) It's unfortunate that you think there could have been a motive to my comments other than an alternative perspective. :)

Wow - just wow.:sad2:

OP - don't let others get you down!
 
My DH's family does Christmas lists and I have always had segregated lists---if I know I'm getting them certain things, I don't disclose it on the list.

So I would suggest separate lists so that you don't have to worry about silly things like her inability to tell you what she got.

You can't say she violates boundaries if you provide her a list of what your son wants that isn't catered to what is available for her to purchase.

I also don't like to know what my kids got b/c I want some surprise to the holidays, so that is another reason I put different things on there that my kids want that I have no intention of buying (for whatever reason).
 
This is what I do with the grandma's

My mother - I go over the girls list with her and let her know what I refuse to buy...she adds to hers :lmao:

My MIL - I say nothing as she probably wont buy them anything anyways. Ah last year they got a coloring book...
 
Gracious. If we had even one grandparent with interest in or the money to do this, I'd be so happy! Less money for us to put out, and DS gets everything he wants. Excellent.

Sort of happened for his b'day...we took him to DLR for his b'day, and Disney gave him the giftcard and that was his birthday. Then we visited my brother and SIL the next month, and SIL gave him a huge check, and DS got legos galore with it. Perfect!

I'd count my lucky stars in your situation...then again, we don't do Santa really (though somehow he's decided, against family tradition, that he does indeed believe in the dude...I started a lot of sentence with "well, the Santa story would say that..." when he asks questions) and we don't even celebrate xmas...we celebrate Yule, so maybe that's why it's more relaxed for us (and would be even MORE relaxed if other relatives were taking care of al lthe gifts for us!!!).

It's always easy to tell someone to appreciate how blessed they are.

It doesn't make the actions anymore appropriate just b/c other people's family dynamic is different.

I often wish for local grandparents--but then I hear about the non-joys and struggles that some adult children face with a too local grandparent. So I appreciate the distance.

But I'd never tell them to "feel lucky they are so close". It devalues the struggles they face with an overbearing relative.
 
Oh I wish I had this problem, mine is the opposite. DD wants Sponge Bob slippers at Target (yes I can't stand S.B., but oh well), I told her to ask Grandma for them for her birthday. Now I'll give you a big hint why I am frustrated... my MIL works at a store with a big BULLSEYE on the front! But she can't be bothered shopping off a list. She either (1) gives the kids money to buy their own gifts or (2) takes them shopping to pick out gifts, makes them wrap their own gifts and then wait until b-day/holiday to open them and 'act surprised'. I have even offered to go out and pick up gifts for her so she can surprise my DD. I am just annoyed since DD is still young, she loves the anticipation of unwrapping a gift and having no clue what is inside.

But when it comes to her boyfriend, she goes holiday/birthday shopping for him and plans surprises. It is not the point of the gift, but after a while even the kids can tell where her priorities are and it hurts!

I'm now wondering if my MIL has a secret life because what you just described is EXACTLY like my MIL - only my MIL doesn't have a job, she collects disability and welfare, spends all her extra money on herself and her boyfriend, and spends LITERALLY spends about $2.00 on our kids which she cant even be bothered to bring them their Christmas presents until sometimes July - sometimes the next Christmas. She lives 20 mins away. There is no excuse. I wont bring them to her house because she doesn't wake up until 5 or 6 PM and they smoke in their house.

Ah vent over.
 
My son and daughter love to start planning their Christmas lists around this time- we don't buy alot during the year so they love to write and re-write the lists. It's part of their excitement. So anyway, every year my mother-in-law starts asking what they have put on the list so far (even though some items may change and that is pat of the fun-ness and why I wait to shop til a bit later..but anyhow). The thing is that SHE starts buying-and she never communicates until after she buys- meaning that, for example, the super cute sports bean bag that my son saw in Target and that I REALLY wanted to get for him from me has been purchased now by MIL.

She never asks first what DH and I have gotten or want to get our kids. She just starts getting stuff and some years we have actually had to scramble to get them ANYTHING from us! Because she 'takes over' the whole list some years. Anybody else have this happen? Or get annoyed when the grandparents don't communicate?

Even though it's a stupid bean bag I really feel like having DH tell her to return it. I'm just over it this year.

I haven't read through the thread, but I thought of a possible solution to your problem. Have your children make two lists, one for grandma the other for you and dad. It sound stupidly simple, which means it's probably not a great idea afterall, but it's what I came up with. :idea:

I was lucky enough to get along with my MIL while she was around. Though, I've heard tons of stories which would make a present buying list stealing grandma sound very tame. :3dglasses
 
The reason it is not easy to fix is that she lives 5 minutes away and the kids see her at least once a week...she will ask them what they have put on their lists and they will honestly tell her. If they say 2 things then she literally goes out and hunts those things down. Then she asks again next visit. She only asks if DH and/or are out of the room so it is something she KNOWS we wish she would stop doing. We have nicely discussed it with her in previous years.

This would be a non-issue for us if it were one or two or even 3 things. It is across the board with both kids. She does it with the only other grandchild as well. It seems to be a 'my gifts trump your gifts' sort of thing as mentioned by a previous poster. Annoying.

SO call her on the phone and tell her what you plan on buying so she doesn't duplicate. Honestly, you're making a problem where there isn't one. I wish my MIL took that much interest in my kids. Be happy she cares.
 
I haven't read through the whole thread yet, but I SWEAR I wrote this exact same post a few years ago. Sadly, nothing has changed. My MIL has the best of intentions, but yep, she sure is sneaky when it comes to asking the kids what they want. And she knows it and thinks it's funny.

I have tried limiting things from her...but a lot of times the kids slip. Now, I just wait and see how it plays out. If there are things that she has gotten the kids, and they are hoping to get it from Santa, she knows I have to take it. So I do. A few years ago, it was a certain doll. So, I told her "I need it, because she is expecting it from Santa....and you don't want DD to be disappointed." You can't argue with that. Then, I will buy other "non important" gifts to supplement, and we trade. It actually works out well now, because MIL has way more time to find the "sought after" items than I do...so I can still get the gifts and not do a lot of work!

Hope that helps. I know, it's a never ending battle...but I'm doing my best to make it work. So far, it's going okay, with the "trades." But I wish that I could find my post from a few holidays back....I think we probably said the same thing word for word, OP!

Good luck!
 
Yep. My mother-in-law and sister-in-law both do it. In fact one of them bought the big Playmobil set my son was asking Santa Claus for. I found out on Christmas Eve. Luckily he also asked Santa for a puppy. Walgreens was the only store open and I found a huge stuffed dog there, so Santa gave him the big puppy, money, and a note for him to buy a puppy after we were settled in our new house. I was furious! They knew he was asking Santa for that, but wanted to one up Santa, I guess.
 
What about your Christmas gift to your children is something like a family vacation or a trip to the local aquarium, zoo, or amusement park. That is what my husband and I have been doing for the last couple of years. They get so much stuff from everybody else that they don't need any more from us. Also our children are young enough (8 & 9) that they really like doing this. This is also something that grandma can never take away or get first. Even if she does the same thing it is still special time that they spend time with you. Sometimes we have even done a mommy and me day and a daddy and me day instead of a family trip. This is a day that the parent spends with 1 kid at a time. The kids love picking out what they get to do for their special day one on one with us. It doesn't have to be expensive either, it could be doing fun stuff at home if money is an issue. My kids absolutly love this and its another thing that grandma can't take away from you.
Dawn
 
SO call her on the phone and tell her what you plan on buying so she doesn't duplicate. Honestly, you're making a problem where there isn't one. I wish my MIL took that much interest in my kids. Be happy she cares.

When we have talked to her directly or twice she even called us herself and we gave her information and stated 'but we (as the parents) are getting the dollhouse and Star Wars lego set' after she says "didn't the kids once mention a dollhouse and lego set?" she then GOES RIGHT OUT AND GETS THOSE THINGS WE SPECIFICALLY SAID WE WERE GETTING! After about 3 times/years of this with DH driving up the hill to say "no way-take it back- you knew we were getting that" she went to a new plan (and a new low, if you ask me) and started sneaking the info out of the kids directly.

But no more... as I stated earlier I am moving forward and will implement that separate list idea that is so brilliant and HUGE THANKS to the dissers who suggested it.
 
What about your Christmas gift to your children is something like a family vacation or a trip to the local aquarium, zoo, or amusement park. That is what my husband and I have been doing for the last couple of years. They get so much stuff from everybody else that they don't need any more from us. Also our children are young enough (8 & 9) that they really like doing this. This is also something that grandma can never take away or get first. Even if she does the same thing it is still special time that they spend time with you. Sometimes we have even done a mommy and me day and a daddy and me day instead of a family trip. This is a day that the parent spends with 1 kid at a time. The kids love picking out what they get to do for their special day one on one with us. It doesn't have to be expensive either, it could be doing fun stuff at home if money is an issue. My kids absolutly love this and its another thing that grandma can't take away from you.
Dawn

What a neat idea! Very cool, thank you.
 
I think that the people who think that the OP should feel lucky have never experienced this type of thing first hand and they are finding it impossible to put themselves in her shoes. As parents, we do put a lot of thought and effort into choosing and finding something that will bring out the joy and excitement in our kids, and having that usurped by someone else, repeatedly, is frustrating. Just wanted to offer my support. Been there, it did get better with MIL once the kids got older (and their tastes got more expensive LOL), and good luck!
 












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