Anyone made it through (or not made it through) ROFR recently? - Section IV

[fmer55]

Silly question ... What is method 1? Is there a method 2 also? I am SO out of the LOOP!

If Doug cares to expound i will let him do so, but i will not be the one to give away his thought process, he is much smarter than me

 

[DougEMG]

Silly question ... What is method 1? Is there a method 2 also? I am SO out of the LOOP!

When comparing different contracts I use a number of different methods to determine the costs of that contract. Note this is not value as value is in the wye of the beholder

I use method 1 when planning on renting out any points that come with the contract. So the formula I use is:

(($/point*#points + closing costs + any MF) - (rental rate * #points the contract has) ) / #points

I would use method 2 if I planned to use the points myself, then the formula is:

(($/point*#points + closing costs + any MF) - (Annual MF * #points the contract has) ) / #points


where
#points = the size of the contract
$/point = the price per point I'm paying
#points the contract has = how many points does the contract come with (ie assuming it is 2012 a contract with 100 2010, 200 2011 and 200 2012 would have 500 points on it)
rental rate = what I think I can rent the points out at. If the points are good for 5+ months I use $11 (use to use $10), anything less and I reduce the rate)
any MF = if I'm paying anything towards MF in the purchase



There are a couple of other things you can then do like dividing those costs by the number of years left on the contract and then adding in your annual MF to give you what your points are costing you each year.


So as an example:

BWV 300 points, comes with 530 points on Aug 2012. Price $54/point + $525 closing.

Method 1 = ( ($54/point*300 +$525) - (530points * $11/point) ) / 300 points = $36.32/point

Divide that by the number of years left (29) and you get $1.25/point/year.
Add the annual MF to that and you get $6.87/point for what you are currently paying.


Method 2 = $45.82/point

Divide that by the number of years left (29) and you get $1.58/point/year.
Add the annual MF to that and you get $7.20/point for what you are currently paying.

So this is just a number of ways to compare different contracts and different resorts on a price bases only. You can see right away though that the killer in the longer run is MF. What this also does is show how valuable getting points on your contract is without having to pay MF on them.

 

[hoosiermike]

Add my name to the list of those receiving good news. I passed ROFR today!

My contract was 150 pts (Aug UY) @ VWL for $53/pt with buyer paying closing costs and splitting MF with seller. Contract purchased through Sharon at Fidelity.

Happy, happy...joy, joy!

Can't wait to officially join the community of DVC owners. Thanks again to everyone on this board with all of your helpful and insightful advice and encouraging support.

 

[fmer55]

Add my name to the list of those receiving good news. I passed ROFR today!

My contract was 150 pts (Aug UY) @ VWL for $53/pt with buyer paying closing costs and splitting MF with seller. Contract purchased through Sharon at Fidelity.

Happy, happy...joy, joy!

Can't wait to officially join the community of DVC owners. Thanks again to everyone on this board with all of your helpful and insightful advice and encouraging support.

Congratulations

 

[cz4ever]

Add my name to the list of those receiving good news. I passed ROFR today!

My contract was 150 pts (Aug UY) @ VWL for $53/pt with buyer paying closing costs and splitting MF with seller. Contract purchased through Sharon at Fidelity.

Happy, happy...joy, joy!

Can't wait to officially join the community of DVC owners. Thanks again to everyone on this board with all of your helpful and insightful advice and encouraging support.

Excellent news -- congratulations!

 

[DizBub]

Add my name to the list of those receiving good news. I passed ROFR today!

My contract was 150 pts (Aug UY) @ VWL for $53/pt with buyer paying closing costs and splitting MF with seller. Contract purchased through Sharon at Fidelity.

Happy, happy...joy, joy!

Can't wait to officially join the community of DVC owners. Thanks again to everyone on this board with all of your helpful and insightful advice and encouraging support.

Congratulations!!! When was it submitted?

 

[Missyrose]

Passed ROFR today on the following contract.

BWV 300 points UY AUG.

Comes with 530 point on Aug 2012.

Price was $54/point + buyer pays closing.

Passed ROFR on the following contract:

SSR 200 points DEC UY.

Comes with 92 banked 2010 points, 200 banked 2011 points and 200 2012 points.

Price was $54/point + buyer pays closing + buyer pays half the 2012 MF

Congrats on both wins Doug!

 

[garryblueboy]

Just heard we passed ROFR 250 points SS March use $56 point Buyer pays fees seller pays Maint that seemed the longest wait ever glad its over can start to make plans .

 

[DizBub]

Just heard we passed ROFR 250 points SS March use $56 point Buyer pays fees seller pays Maint that seemed the longest wait ever glad its over can start to make plans .

Congratulations and Welcome!!

 

[DannysMom]

Congrats to all that passed ROFR!! Doug, your math was making my brain hurt.

 

[DougEMG]

Add my name to the list of those receiving good news. I passed ROFR today!

My contract was 150 pts (Aug UY) @ VWL for $53/pt with buyer paying closing costs and splitting MF with seller. Contract purchased through Sharon at Fidelity.

Happy, happy...joy, joy!

Can't wait to officially join the community of DVC owners. Thanks again to everyone on this board with all of your helpful and insightful advice and encouraging support.

Just heard we passed ROFR 250 points SS March use $56 point Buyer pays fees seller pays Maint that seemed the longest wait ever glad its over can start to make plans .

Congradulations to both of you

 

[DougEMG]

Doug, your math was making my brain hurt.

The non math version is "The more points you get without paying MF on them the better."

 

[DannysMom]

The non math version is "The more points you get without paying MF on them the better."

Ok that I can understand. So if I get my contract I'll have done pretty well, getting 260 MF-free points. Although 60 of those will be in a use or lose position, expiring on 1/31/13.

 

[Shazzasmd]

Great deal, hoosiermike!

We also received word we passed ROFR today (submitted 5/28).


VWL 160pts, Dec UY, 24 2010 pts banked, 160 2011 points banked, all pts going forward. Buyer pays MF and CC. $65/pt


Not the best VWL deal, but we're happy. Now to find a BCV contract.

 

[DizBub]

Great deal, hoosiermike!

We also received word we passed ROFR today (submitted 5/28).


VWL 160pts, Dec UY, 24 2010 pts banked, 160 2011 points banked, all pts going forward. Buyer pays MF and CC. $65/pt


Not the best VWL deal, but we're happy. Now to find a BCV contract.

Congratulations!!

It took the full 30 days? I can only hope we hear next Tuesday.

Have fun planning!!

 

[ELMC]

Ok that I can understand. So if I get my contract I'll have done pretty well, getting 260 MF-free points. Although 60 of those will be in a use or lose position, expiring on 1/31/13.

That's an eternity for you to use those points. If you're so inclined, you should have no problems renting those points out either on the rent/trade board or through a broker. Something to consider if it looks like they're going to go to waste.

 

[Missyrose]

Great deal, hoosiermike!

We also received word we passed ROFR today (submitted 5/28).


VWL 160pts, Dec UY, 24 2010 pts banked, 160 2011 points banked, all pts going forward. Buyer pays MF and CC. $65/pt


Not the best VWL deal, but we're happy. Now to find a BCV contract.

Yay Sharon! So glad to hear you're through ROFR. Enjoy VWL!

 

[DannysMom]

That's an eternity for you to use those points. If you're so inclined, you should have no problems renting those points out either on the rent/trade board or through a broker. Something to consider if it looks like they're going to go to waste.

Really? I have only just entered my ROFR wait. If things go swimmingly well maybe we close in August, perhaps Sept if things are pokey. With F&W and then the holiday season, I was thinking even getting them rented (in Sept) would be dicey.

 

[AJA]

Really? I have only just entered my ROFR wait. If things go swimmingly well maybe we close in August, perhaps Sept if things are pokey. With F&W and then the holiday season, I was thinking even getting them rented (in Sept) would be dicey.

I bet you could rent them in mid-late Jan. We're in ROFR right now and are hoping to take an end of Jan trip with our points.


Congrats to all those who passed today!

 

[ELMC]

Really? I have only just entered my ROFR wait. If things go swimmingly well maybe we close in August, perhaps Sept if things are pokey. With F&W and then the holiday season, I was thinking even getting them rented (in Sept) would be dicey.

Your best bet will be a January reservation. Even with a slow closing, that still gives you about 5 months to make the reservation. There should be plenty of availability at the usual suspects (SSR, OKW and possibly AKV). Don't worry, you'll be fine.