Anyone else think enough is enough... ?

[BuckeyeBama]

This kind of management?
https://wfpl.org/federal-government-outbids-kentucky-for-medical-equipment-amid-shortage/

We used to call this profiteering and put these people in jail. This group in power has no shame.

 

[Disneypro1]

You realize they have 2 totally different causes, right?

I’m not argueing that. I’m just saying now. It’s either. IDDM or Non IDDM. I haven’t heard type 1 or 2. Terms used in years. It’s all IDDM or non IDDM.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I’m not argueing that. I’m just saying now. It’s either. IDDM or Non IDDM. I haven’t heard type 1 or 2. Terms used in years. It’s all IDDM or non IDDM.

And I have never heard that. Could be something that is used in some areas and not others.

 

[cabanafrau]

We get what we need. And yes. Sure you do know why. Anything Dewine needs. We will get.

People are dying in some cases because PPE is in such limited supply and you feel good about posting a grotesquely grinning emoticon because you feel your state is a have? What, other states deserve to die if they have not? That's really something to grin about?

This is what passes for friendly discussion on this board now?

 

[Hikergirl]

Ohio has 4450 known cases. New York has 141,100. little different in terms of scale.

Yeah, who would have thought in a city of 8 million + there might be shortages when a Pandemic hit
Apparently not Cuomo, he's on his 3rd term, he should have been more prepared.
I guess when those 8 million people down there voted for him they thought he had their backs. Turns out he didn't and he just shifts the blame to the feds.

 

[Disneypro1]

People are dying in some cases because PPE is in such limited supply and you feel good about posting a grotesquely grinning emoticon because you feel your state is a have? What, other states deserve to die if they have not? That's really something to grin about?

This is what passes for friendly discussion on this board now?

Yes. I’m proud of how my state has done. Period. Cuomo could have had anything he needed. He wasn’t prepared. Sad yes. But the leaders of NY were not prepared. What now you are opposed to being proud of how ones state does. Nice.

 

[EveDallas]

There really isn’t type one or two anymore. That ended a few years ago. It’s all treated as type one now. Which is IDDM. Insulin dependent. This is because type 2 can be as bad as type one. Sadly a lot of diabetes is self induced.

Off topic, but that would be news to my son's endocrinologist. Yes Type 2 can end up insulin dependent, but Type 1 is ALWAYS insulin dependent. They aren't the same.

 

[shelemm]

I think when all this ends. It will come out that some Governors prepared very well. Some did not. Either way. I’m just done with it. I feel so bad for those who want to go work but can’t.

There is no way to prepare for all the lies. There is no way to prepare for the dismantling of the national pandemic and bioterrorism response team in 2018. There is no way to prepare for dropping the program to create new technology for manufacturing medical supplies in crisis, which happened in 2017. There is no way to prepare for pulling the plug on our doctors pandemic identification program which happened in 2019. There is no way to prepare for the federal government surplus to be withheld in a time of crisis where the crisis is hitting the worst. Yes, in the future a place like NY will probably realize it's everyone for themselves, with no national coordination.

I see now that your acceptance of our lies about American History now intersects perfectly with your acceptance of lies now. It is part of a continuum that has been going on a long time now.

 

[Welsh_Dragon]

I’m not argueing that. I’m just saying now. It’s either. IDDM or Non IDDM. I haven’t heard type 1 or 2. Terms used in years. It’s all IDDM or non IDDM.

I am very confused....
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetes/https://www.idf.org/aboutdiabetes/what-is-diabetes.html
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-types.html
So maybe the US uses terms which are different to the rest of the world?

 

[kymom99]

Our governor says every day that he bids for supplies, thinks he has a confirmations, and FEMA takes them out from under us. The man and his staff are working tirelessly. This is not their fault.

 

[cabanafrau]

Yes. I’m proud of how my state has done. Period. Cuomo could have had anything he needed. He wasn’t prepared. Sad yes. But the leaders of NY were not prepared. What now you are opposed to being proud of how ones state does. Nice.

I didn't say a word about pride, not one. Nor did I mention Cuomo.

Word of the Day Calendar
Pyrrhic Victory.

 

[luvsJack]

no one but you said shame. Acknowledging past wrongs, admitting mistakes, acknowledging the ramifications of those wrongs and striving to not repeat them are good starts. Like acknowledging that we should have paid attention to the warnings in January and at a minimum ramped up production of needed supplies. Admitting that we missed that boat and as a result millions of people will at best be inconvienced and at worst get very sick and/or die. And striving to use data and the power the government has to assist those in need - medically, economically etc., - until this is behind us and we can start to resume normal life.

We also need to admit that the Federal Stockpile of needed supplies should have been replenished during the prior administration. Plenty of mistakes to go around.

 

[EveDallas]

Yes. My brother in-law. Is type 2. He is IDDM. Back in the day. They called type 2. Non IDDM. Some type 1 and type two requires insulin. Some don’t.

Absolutely untrue. I've been dealing with a Type 1 child for over 20 years. Type 1 ALWAYS needs insulin. Their bodies literally make no insulin and they will die without it.

 

[TippyThomas]

I'd say enough is enough but it would have nothing to do with the original intent of this thread.

 

[cabanafrau]

Can't political football spiking wait until after the crisis passes and it's safe to play full contact sports again?

 

[Disneypro1]

Absolutely untrue. I've been dealing with a Type 1 child for over 20 years. Type 1 ALWAYS needs insulin. Their bodies literally make no insulin and they will die without it.

Well. Not accurate. But wish you well. IDDM or non IDDM. Is term used now. Not saying you aren’t correct. In past terminology.

 

[luvsJack]

I am very proud of all the great things My People have accomplished. But we are also truly superb at denial.

Let's at least admit the fairy tales, can we? It is a fairy tale to say we have been a Free Market for our illustrious 230 years of Nationhood. Slavery is just one point of that, but hardly the beginning or end. And it is most certainly not all before you were born!

For example, just within the past week (there I go again) , WE have denied that there is a shortage of supplies and equipment in NYC. Someone sneaked them out the back door! And WE declared that the federal surplus is not for the states. And WE changed the wording on the website only AFTER we made that claim. And WE claimed that the federal surplus was bare in January of 2017. Except.... that the website is not the only place where the express purpose of the surplus is mentioned and there are written accounts of the supplies before January of 2017. Yes, WE have a lot to be ashamed of because it's all being done in our name.

Uh hmm I didn’t say anything about Free Market and 230 years. So not the one. Everything the op mentioned was in fact before I was born and now of it has a dang thing to do with this virus. Nor does it make me ashamed of my country. If you are, your choice.

And if you are going to start in about current things being said, please make sure you are getting them right and do a little fact checking.

 

[EveDallas]

I am very confused....
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/diabetes/https://www.idf.org/aboutdiabetes/what-is-diabetes.html
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-types.html
So maybe the US uses terms which are different to the rest of the world?

No, the US still uses Type 1 and Type 2. Believe me. Maybe Ohio is different.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Cuomo has shown more leadership through this crisis than any other American. Those who think otherwise have very clear agendas.

 

[EveDallas]

Well. Not accurate. But wish you well. IDDM or non IDDM. Is term used now. Not saying you aren’t correct. In past terminology.

Are you an endocrinologist? If not, I'll stick with my son's doctor and what she knows.

ETA: I can pull up a dozen articles from the last three years that all mention Type 1 and 2 as two different things.