Anyone concerned about the Coronavirus in WDW ?

[Disneylover99]

I’m more worried about when he’s out and breathing on his own honestly. I’m due April 23. We’re at wdw right now and plan to come back next week. We only live an hour away. I’ve been washing my hands a lot.

From everything I’ve read so far, it doesn’t appear that babies or young children are really affected by this virus, unlike the regular flu, so that’s some good news.

 

[C&Jx2]

A question for the nurses here: According to HHS Secretary Alex Azar today, 15% - 20% of people that get the Coronavirus have required hospitalization. Is that anywhere on par with the stats. for the "regular" flu?

Another question for nurses: How are your hospitals/Drs. offices handling this? Have there been any meetings about Coronavirus response? Are YOU concerned?

I’m a senior in nursing school. At clinical a few weeks ago there was a huddle about it. All that was talked about was the lack of N95 masks (Which has gotten way worse since). They didn’t seem concerned about COVID-19 itself.

I’m not sure of the first part of your question.

 

[Haley R]

From everything I’ve read so far, it doesn’t appear that babies or young children are really affected by this virus, unlike the regular flu, so that’s some good news.

That’s what I’ve been seeing so it makes me feel slightly better. I’m not gonna stop living my life but I’ll also be cautious.

 

[Dole_whip_doll]

Have there been any reports on this affecting pregnant women/newborns? I feel like I haven’t seen much

On one of the other threads someone said the BBC was reporting how there have been no babies/children with it and most of the severe cases/deaths have been male.

 

[sky13]

On one of the other threads someone said the BBC was reporting how there have been no babies/children with it and most of the severe cases/deaths have been male.

One of the cases in Singapore was a 6 month old who has since recovered, so yes babies can get it too.

I also remember reading about a month back about a coronavirus patient who gave birth to a baby that was initially thought not to be infected but was subsequently found to be infected too. This was in China.

Edit to add - I think I've read that babies/children may not have as bad a bout of illness as adults/elderly? Not entirely certain about this though.

 

[NYCgrrl]

Comparing flu statistics and COVID-19 statistics is very deceiving. Flu statistics come from years of data and large sample sizes of patients. Right now, COVID-19 stats are based on a very small sample size, over a very short amount of time, and only on confirmed cases.

To break down the comparison between the two to a defined mortality rate is not accurate. There is just simply not enough data on COVID-19 yet. That, to me, is the fear mongering part of it.

The concern should lie with the unknown about COVID-19. To say Covid is 10xs, or 100xs, or 1000xs deadlier than the flu is fairly disingenuous.

Except most epidemiologists are using their knowledge of the past to extrapolate what could well happen with coronavirus and thus COVID 19. The US is well prepared but only to a point and in certain parts of the country. The CDC's study of 2010 concluded that 675,000 respiratory machines were needed to fight a pandemic ; there is only about 10% of those machines in use in nationwide now. Add another 10,000 machines held back in the nation's emergency stores and we are still nowhere near the amt needed. Further, most of the equipment is located in urban areas. It's been discussed for decades that rural Midwestern areas are undeserved by advanced hospitals and to date no administration, Federal or State has been able to do much about that uncomfortable fact. With those and other thoughts in mind I don't see this as fear mongering merely, truth telling and transparency.

 

[kiddo76]

Yes mortality rate is one thing, but the number of patients needing intensive care it's a very well known number/fact. A number that it's not comparable to that of the flu.
I attach again the official data of Italy as of yesterday, so you can see the issue here.
I have a friend who works as pneumologist at the S. Paolo hospital in Milan, one of the majors, the situation is Real and it's not good! No scaremongering, just facts.

I didn't say it's not serious. I said COVID and the flu aren't really comparable right now.

A more accurate comparison would be to compare confirmed cases of a specific flu strain (not just the general "flu") and confirmed cases of COVID-19 over the same time period. Anything else is conjecture. Conjecture in this case is necessary and useful, but shouldn't be simplified down to a single number.

 

[kiddo76]

Except most epidemiologists are using their knowledge of the past to extrapolate what could well happen with coronavirus and thus COVID 19. The US is well prepared but only to a point and in certain parts of the country. The CDC's study of 2010 concluded that 675,000 respiratory machines were needed to fight a pandemic ; there is only about 10% of those machines in use in nationwide now. Add another 10,000 machines held back in the nation's emergency stores and we are still nowhere near the amt needed. Further, most of the equipment is located in urban areas. It's been discussed for decades that rural Midwestern areas are undeserved by advanced hospitals and to date no administration, Federal or State has been able to do much about that uncomfortable fact. With those and other thoughts in mind I don't see this as fear mongering merely, truth telling and transparency.

Yes, epidemiologists are using their knowledge, which I value and trust. The concerns you brought up should be taken very seriously. Scientists working on this possible pandemics are using statistics as just a piece of a very big puzzle.

 

[nicolita3]

I am in healthcare. The concern that is around is the fact that it has affected a nursing home in Washington. This is a different company than the one I work for. Even the fire department for that community is in quarantine now.

 

[Trogdor64]

There's an article in the Philadelphia Inquirer that has the stats on illness and death by age...for some reason the link is pinging as spam, so I can't post the link. It basically shows that less than 1% of cases have been children under 9, and none have died. On the other hand, the death rate from the virus is 8% for people age 70-79 and 14.8% for people over 80.

While the stats are from a few weeks ago, it gives a much better idea about who is susceptible to the virus, and, consequently, who may want to take extra precaution. This virus is likely to spread widely, but as a parent with a young child, this helps calm some of my fears. I'd be far more concerned if a member of our party was well over 70 or immunocompromised, but even then, we're not to that point yet.

 

[NYCgrrl]

I can't decide if this is funny or scary, or both. Especially at :35.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1233423437286211585

More detailed info on the gentleman who was seen on Fox News interview via twitter:

"Frank Wucinski and his 3-year-old daughter, Annabel, are among the dozens of Americans the government has flown back to the country from Wuhan, China, and put under quarantine to check for signs of coronavirus.
Now they are among what could become a growing number of families hit with surprise medical bills related to government-mandated actions.
Mr. Wucinski, a Pennsylvania native who has lived in China for years, accepted the U.S. government’s offer to evacuate from Wuhan with Annabel in early February as the new coronavirus spread. His wife, who is not an American citizen and remains in China, developed pneumonia that doctors think resulted from Covid-19, the disease caused by the respiratory virus. Her father, whom she helped care for, was infected and recently died.
The first stop for Mr. Wucinski and Annabel was a two-week quarantine at Marine Corps Station Miramar near San Diego. During that time, they had two mandatory stays in an isolation unit at a nearby children’s hospital. The first started upon arrival in the United States, and the second was a few days later, after an official heard Annabel coughing.

“The hospital staff were very nice, they brought us a lot of toys,” Mr. Wucinski said. “Each time it was three or four days. I love my daughter to death, but being in the same room that long, she is not a great conversationalist.”
Both have repeatedly tested negative for the virus."

The focus of this article is the possible cost of being quarantined and can be read in full here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

[lifesavacation]

More detailed info on the gentleman who was seen on Fox News interview via twitter:

"Frank Wucinski and his 3-year-old daughter, Annabel, are among the dozens of Americans the government has flown back to the country from Wuhan, China, and put under quarantine to check for signs of coronavirus.
Now they are among what could become a growing number of families hit with surprise medical bills related to government-mandated actions.
Mr. Wucinski, a Pennsylvania native who has lived in China for years, accepted the U.S. government’s offer to evacuate from Wuhan with Annabel in early February as the new coronavirus spread. His wife, who is not an American citizen and remains in China, developed pneumonia that doctors think resulted from Covid-19, the disease caused by the respiratory virus. Her father, whom she helped care for, was infected and recently died.
The first stop for Mr. Wucinski and Annabel was a two-week quarantine at Marine Corps Station Miramar near San Diego. During that time, they had two mandatory stays in an isolation unit at a nearby children’s hospital. The first started upon arrival in the United States, and the second was a few days later, after an official heard Annabel coughing.

“The hospital staff were very nice, they brought us a lot of toys,” Mr. Wucinski said. “Each time it was three or four days. I love my daughter to death, but being in the same room that long, she is not a great conversationalist.”
Both have repeatedly tested negative for the virus."

The focus of this article is the possible cost of being quarantined and can be read in full here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

Well hopefully they weren’t tested using the CDC’s faulty tests.

 

[focusondisney]

@Haley R, there certainly isn’t a lot known yet, but this is the CDC page on pregnancy:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/specific-groups/pregnancy-faq.html
Since the virus seems to affect elderly more than healthy young women of child bearing age, that may help limit infants exposure. There are some natural immunities transferred at birth, so that might play a part. And of course, breastfeeding confers even more immunity after birth.

It is always advisable to limit an infant’s exposure to wide spread illnesses. The common cold, flu & RSV are huge risks to infants & can lead to severe illness. I am an RN in our regional children’s hospital. The numbers of children, especially infants affected & hospitalized with RSV & flu this year has been unprecedented. This is country wide, not just locally. So even tho Covid-19 might not be showing as high risk for infants, I would still take every possible precaution to limit the baby’s exposure to crowds or anyone with respiratory symptoms.

 

[Coffee66]

Well hopefully they weren’t tested using the CDC’s faulty tests.

The CDC does a wonderful job. Stop being negative.

 

[lifesavacation]

The CDC does a wonderful job. Stop being negative.

They did a terrible job with the tests. So, no, I won’t stop being negative about the tests.

ETA: The CDC did such an awful job on the rollout of the tests that Hawaii asked for permission to use tests from Japan. This has cost the US valuable time to contain coronavirus.

 

[Searc]

The CDC does a wonderful job. Stop being negative.

Um, it is a fact the tests from the CDC are only 70% effective at detecting the virus.

 

[Disneytrippin']

I am more worried about getting on ROTR.

 

[JaxDad]

Um, it is a fact the tests from the CDC are only 70% effective at detecting the virus.

I took my son for a flu test a month or so ago. If I remember correctly, the nurse said that test had an accuracy of 66%. I may be confusing that with the strep test, but still. I haven’t done any research, but I do wonder about false positives and false negatives, variety in tests, etc with all this.

 

[Dole_whip_doll]

I never said babies COULD NOT get it. I was simply stating something I heard/read somewhere else.

One of the cases in Singapore was a 6 month old who has since recovered, so yes babies can get it too.

I also remember reading about a month back about a coronavirus patient who gave birth to a baby that was initially thought not to be infected but was subsequently found to be infected too. This was in China.

Edit to add - I think I've read that babies/children may not have as bad a bout of illness as adults/elderly? Not entirely certain about this though.

 

[Dole_whip_doll]

My mom is 59 years old and has been a nurse for 21 of those years. She’s the level headed, logical, planner of the family. She’s not a worrier or hypochondriac, doesn’t act like news/social media is the gospel. In all she’s read from all sources available, including personal, and using her knowledge, she just feels something isn’t right and ok with what’s going on.

So we have decided to bulk up some stuff here. (I live next door). It’s not so much buying random stuff, she’s checking and buying stuff we already use so we have it in case we should have to quarantine. We went through meds and cleaning supplies and she looked at what there was and decided if that was enough or more was wanted. With food items she was looking at beans, pastas, bouillon that she could use with the meat we have to make different things. After we made the list, she went through and starred the items she felt most important and we are planning on buying that today. The items without stars she will leave and see how things are in the next few days. My parents live next door and I’m single/no kids. So if it came to it, we’d quarantine together.

I have a Disney trip with a student group that leaves next week. I bought a few extra “room snacks” than i normally take (because I am always buying Disney/Universal snacks). And I’m going to pack some Uno cards, playing cards, coloring books/pencils, and books. She’s concerned about my trip, but I didn’t plan it or have any control over it, so I’m not about to lose $1500 backing out. (Plus I WANT to go lol)