any FAFSA tips?

Dang, Just filled out the FASFA and it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Yeah it's done!!!!

I thought it was pretty quick and painless as well.

as far as i know that number is per year......

Darn, that's what I thought might be the case. I wasn't really expecting DD to get financial aid, but the EFC is sky high.

Did your amount on the EFC have a dollar symbol in front of it? Mine starts with a 0 and looks more like a code than an amount. Weird.

It didn't have a dollar symbol in front of it, but it was definitely an amount.
 
Is the EFC a yearly amount or the amount that is expected to be contributed over all four years of attendance? The EFC that was calculated for my daughter is more than one year of tuition, room and board?

It is yearly. It is possible that it is higher than the cost of a year of school!

Another question. I had to fill out the CSS Profile for an Early Read for one of her colleges to estimate her financial package. Isn't that almost the same information as the FASFA? I am starting on that now and it seems like the questions are exactly the same so far. Maybe this will be a little easier than I thought because I have do that form?

I have never worked at a profile school, but yes it will ask alot of the same information. It will also ask lots of things that the FAFSA did not. If the school is using profile, they most likely have more of their own money to give, and want to really understand the financial situation of the family as a whole.

Dang, Just filled out the FASFA and it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Yeah it's done!!!!

:cool1: :cool1: :cool1:

okay just did a soft run thru of our taxes.........husband is self employed now off to do FASFA

You can do it!!!!!
 
for u business owners ....i see that 1/2 the self employement tax....and health insurance deduction comes off income............... is that correct....wow.....that knocks our income down big time............so am i looking at this correcctly?????
 

Dropped daughter off at the airport at 4 am to go back to school, came home too down to work or go back to sleep, so I come to the always-there-always-helpful Budget Board, and found the motivation to tackle the FAFSA and Profile!

Was just finishing when my daughter stopped over at BWI. Submitting when I got her text that the Dance Moms people just walked past her. :crazy2:

Thanks for the motivation this early New Year's Day!!! Feels great to be done (although the EFC is depressing:rolleyes2)
 
Is the EFC a yearly amount or the amount that is expected to be contributed over all four years of attendance? The EFC that was calculated for my daughter is more than one year of tuition, room and board?

See, this is why I stopped filling it out. It wasn't worth my effort. I see you are from MN. My DD just finished up at U of M. What school are you looking at?
 
Both the student and the parent need a PIN. The student's PIN should be connected to their email, and the parent PIN should be connected to the parent email.



Nope! Fill it out now! You can always go back in and add or delete a school from your FAFSA!

Thank you!!! Filling it out now!!! :cool1:
 
I finished FAFSA and on the last page to sign. It is not accepting my DD's pin number. It took mine. Anybody else have a problem with PIN number not working? Even when I click on don't remember, it is saying that there are no matches. Guess I will have to finish without signature and hope that we can get PIN straightened out later.
 
Go get the book Paying for College without Going Broke. My DH is an accountant...and he really likes this book. Makes the whole process easier. Fill ASAP--this is not the year to procrastinate.

Keep in mind some schools will want a CSS profile as well.
I'll second the recommendation for this book, though the people who'll benefit from its advice MOST are those who still have small children and years to save/prepare.
My dd had an overnight at her friends house so I went on to start the process. I am using my email since she rarely looks at hers and determined a pin number. Now I need another pin number for me? Can't we share the same?
My dd is an only child so I have never gone through this process before.
Here's the thing: All parents and college students don't get along so well, nor do they all share information about things like finances. Since your daughter will soon be (or maybe already is) a legal adult, they have to provide a method of keeping parents OUT.

You're going to be hit by a few more such details as your girl begins college. She'll have the option to give you access (or not give you access) to her grades, finances and other college information. Since you have a traditional student, going straight from high school to college, it can be something of a slap in the face from the university!
Is the EFC a yearly amount or the amount that is expected to be contributed over all four years of attendance? The EFC that was calculated for my daughter is more than one year of tuition, room and board?
The EFC is what they expect you should be able to pay for this one year. It's not what they think you should be able to pay from your current earnings; rather, it's what they expect you should've saved over the last 18 years and waht they expect you can pay from this year's paycheck. If your circumstances were to change (you lose a job, add a second college student, whatever), your EFC could go up or down next year.

Our EFC was roughly 2Xs the cost of one year at my daughter's college; thus, even when our second child begins school, we're not getting any financial aid.



Changing the focus slightly: I learned a few financial lessons this year as my daughter began college.

1. They charge $709 each month for school health insurance . . . UNLESS your student (not you, your student) files a waiver proving that she has other health insurance -- and it must be done by a certain date. This must be repeated every semester. They automatically default to "student needs our health insurance". I suspect it's a big money-maker for them.

2. On the day my daughter accepted her school, she had to pay a $200 deposit. Maybe my memory just doesn't reach back that far, but I don't remember having to pay a deposit to the university. I know I had to pay a housing deposit, but this was a "Yes, I have chosen your school, here's $200 towards my first tuition bill" deposit. You'll pay this in January-February-March, so it has to be cash out of your pocket.

3. Her mandatory orientation overnight cost $160. Again, maybe I just don't remember, but I don't recall paying to attend orientation. Yes, they provided a dorm room, linens and food, so I can see it costing something, but I think a big profit margin was involved in this orientation. I didn't pay this separately; it was added to her fall semester bill.

4. Being awarded a scholarship and getting that scholarship credited are not the same thing. One of my girl's scholarships was easy -- the group who awarded it to her mailed a check to her (addresed to both her and the university), and she was responsible for turning it in to the accounts office. The second scholarship, however, was much more difficult to get credited to her account, and she made multiple phone calls, but it was a bit out of her 18-year old league; finally I stepped in and called the scholarship group about it. I was fearful that I was going to have to pay her tuition myself upfront -- or face seeing her have her schedule cancelled. However, they automatically credited her for spring semester, so maybe this was a first-semester thing.

I'm firmly convinced that the first semester is the hardest. You have to figure out how YOUR SCHOOL does things, and you have to walk your student through so many little details -- housing applications, immunization forms, orientation. There's more red tape than when we went to school 20-25 years ago. But now that she's an established student, it all seems so much easier.
 
]rsPete;47049142]I'll second the recommendation for this book, though the people who'll benefit from its advice MOST are those who still have small children and years to save/prepare.Here's the thing: All parents and college students don't get along so well, nor do they all share information about things like finances. Since your daughter will soon be (or maybe already is) a legal adult, they have to provide a method of keeping parents OUT.

You're going to be hit by a few more such details as your girl begins college. She'll have the option to give you access (or not give you access) to her grades, finances and other college information. Since you have a traditional student, going straight from high school to college, it can be something of a slap in the face from the university! Yup.
The EFC is what they expect you should be able to pay for this one year. It's not what they think you should be able to pay from your current earnings; rather, it's what they expect you should've saved over the last 18 years and waht they expect you can pay from this year's paycheck. If your circumstances were to change (you lose a job, add a second college student, whatever), your EFC could go up or down next year.

Our EFC was roughly 2Xs the cost of one year at my daughter's college; thus, even when our second child begins school, we're not getting any financial aid.



Changing the focus slightly: I learned a few financial lessons this year as my daughter began college.

1. They charge $709 each month for school health insurance . . . UNLESS your student (not you, your student) files a waiver proving that she has other health insurance -- and it must be done by a certain date. This must be repeated every semester. They automatically default to "student needs our health insurance". I suspect it's a big money-maker for them. Yup again.

2. On the day my daughter accepted her school, she had to pay a $200 deposit. Maybe my memory just doesn't reach back that far, but I don't remember having to pay a deposit to the university. I know I had to pay a housing deposit, but this was a "Yes, I have chosen your school, here's $200 towards my first tuition bill" deposit. You'll pay this in January-February-March, so it has to be cash out of your pocket. My daughter's school was even worse than this. We had to put down a $700 deposit , but it did not go towards tuition or room and board. It is sort of like a damage buffer, I guess, although, seriously, I don't know why one needs a buffer that large, especially since if you have any sort of fines, library fees, etc., you are not allowed to register for the next semester. I suppose if one withdraws from school owing a large sum, this money would be insurance from the school's standpoint. We will get this $700 back when dd graduates.

3. Her mandatory orientation overnight cost $160. Again, maybe I just don't remember, but I don't recall paying to attend orientation. Yes, they provided a dorm room, linens and food, so I can see it costing something, but I think a big profit margin was involved in this orientation. I didn't pay this separately; it was added to her fall semester bill.

4. Being awarded a scholarship and getting that scholarship credited are not the same thing. One of my girl's scholarships was easy -- the group who awarded it to her mailed a check to her (addresed to both her and the university), and she was responsible for turning it in to the accounts office. The second scholarship, however, was much more difficult to get credited to her account, and she made multiple phone calls, but it was a bit out of her 18-year old league; finally I stepped in and called the scholarship group about it. I was fearful that I was going to have to pay her tuition myself upfront -- or face seeing her have her schedule cancelled. However, they automatically credited her for spring semester, so maybe this was a first-semester thing.We had problems with them applying the scholarships equally. My daughter earned quite a bit of outside scholarship money for her freshman year. I wanted it split between both semesters. Some of the scholarships they did that; but others they applied just to the first semester. I think they were the few of them that were made out to her that we cashed and forwarded the money to the school. The school applied all those to the fall semester. Their explanation was that should my daughter withdraw after the first semester, the organizations money would have been "wasted", because it would have been applied to a semester she would not attend. And yet, for the several scholarships that were made out directly to the school, they did split the money between the two semesters. I suppose since they had the check, they would have known where to send the refund, and perhaps they do not trust students to do the same with funds that have been cashed in their name already? It was confusing as heck, for sure, plus they misapplied a few at first.

I'm firmly convinced that the first semester is the hardest. You have to figure out how YOUR SCHOOL does things, and you have to walk your student through so many little details -- housing applications, immunization forms, orientation. There's more red tape than when we went to school 20-25 years ago. But now that she's an established student, it all seems so much easier.[/QUOTE]
 
The EFC is what they expect you should be able to pay for this one year. It's not what they think you should be able to pay from your current earnings; rather, it's what they expect you should've saved over the last 18 years and waht they expect you can pay from this year's paycheck.

They should put this into "What to Expect When You're Expecting" and every baby book ever written.

When your kids are little, you have daycare expenses - or maybe you don't because you've decided to live off one income, and they are so expensive and you'll save later. And your baby is so obviously special, they'll be plenty of scholarships.

And they start school, and its expensive, and you want to give them things - nice clothes, and hockey and vacations - and you want things - like vacations and nice clothes and a new couch. And you'll save later. And there are still those scholarships - but hopefully an athletic one - junior turns out not to be a math wiz.

And they start middle school and its expensive and the sports are more expensive and their clothes are more expensive and your grocery bill is through the roof, and they want and you want and you'll save later. However, you've started to realize that maybe your kid isn't likely to get a free ride in football.

And you start high school are realize college is just around the corner and the kids haven't gotten any cheaper - but, hey, there is financial aid.

And then you discover that they really do expect you to spend 21 years sending a child to college. You can start the day they are born, or you (or they) can pay for the twenty years after they graduate, but someone is going to spend twenty years paying for college.
 
They should put this into "What to Expect When You're Expecting" and every baby book ever written.

When your kids are little, you have daycare expenses - or maybe you don't because you've decided to live off one income, and they are so expensive and you'll save later. And your baby is so obviously special, they'll be plenty of scholarships.

And they start school, and its expensive, and you want to give them things - nice clothes, and hockey and vacations - and you want things - like vacations and nice clothes and a new couch. And you'll save later. And there are still those scholarships - but hopefully an athletic one - junior turns out not to be a math wiz.

And they start middle school and its expensive and the sports are more expensive and their clothes are more expensive and your grocery bill is through the roof, and they want and you want and you'll save later. However, you've started to realize that maybe your kid isn't likely to get a free ride in football.

And you start high school are realize college is just around the corner and the kids haven't gotten any cheaper - but, hey, there is financial aid.

And then you discover that they really do expect you to spend 21 years sending a child to college. You can start the day they are born, or you (or they) can pay for the twenty years after they graduate, but someone is going to spend twenty years paying for college.

Amen! I nearly laughed so hard that I started to cry and then cry indeed when I saw what our EFC was. Not only did they expect you to be saving for that kid since birth, but they figure you've been making the same salary since then too. Saving since birth, yes we have tried. Based on our current salary - um no.

Our EFC was basically 25% of our current adjusted income. It did not cover the cost and we were offered the $5500 loan - forgot the name of it. We made will make it through the first year without loans, but that will eat up all of our college savings. (Univ. of Colorado-Boulder for business majors is about $32,000 for first year tuition, fees and room and board) He received a $1,000 scholarship and we get COF - Colorado Opportunity Fund which is about $900 per semester for 16 credit hours. It is his dream school and loving it, but OUCH even in state is expensive!

OH editing to add probably one of the biggest misconceptions is that even if you qualify (your EFC doesn't cover the cost) that you will get free aid instead of loans. That is not always the case. The loans offered are better (subsidized) but not free money friends! Private small schools are more likely to help you out there, but most public schools will not. In other words, your small wonderful school may say it is $50,000 to attend, but we'll help you with $25,000.
 
2. Be poor on January 1st. Pay all your bills the last week of December so that you can honestly say that you have less. What you have on January 1st matters.

wait, WHAT? Can you explain that? What if I have a lot in my account on Jan 1 and then on Jan 2 , I used it to pay for something? Can I file in Feb and use Feb 1 as the amount?
 
2. Be poor on January 1st. Pay all your bills the last week of December so that you can honestly say that you have less. What you have on January 1st matters.

wait, WHAT? Can you explain that? What if I have a lot in my account on Jan 1 and then on Jan 2 , I used it to pay for something? Can I file in Feb and use Feb 1 as the amount?

It was explained to me that the FAFSA is a snapshot of your finances on that day that you fill it out. Anything that changes after that...you can edit your FAFSA or contact the college if it would be in your favor. e.g. if you lose your job immediately contact the college and change FAFSA.
 
I will be filling out my (I hope) last FAFSA for DD1. The last few years we made sure to do it as close to January 1 as possible, but this year I think we will wait until we do our taxes.
 
Private small schools are more likely to help you out there, but most public schools will not. In other words, your small wonderful school may say it is $50,000 to attend, but we'll help you with $25,000.

This is our situation, and I wasn't surprised at my EFC. Did none of you run the estimators ahead of time? DS has scholarships to two different schools (one private, one public) $25K/$48 and $22K/$46. One of those schools is offering $1K just for doing the FAFSA the first week of January! He'll probably pick up a couple more private scholarships before this is over, so I expect I'll be paying around $20K per year...which isn't that far off from what the EFC said in the first place. It can't be higher, so anything less is gravy.
 
someone posted on another thread that they filled out a css form for financil aid along with the fasfa........ what the heck is a css and should i fill it out too............my brain hurts
 





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