Another "IF YOU HAD THE POWER" Poll - This one's all about "the rules"

[CarolMN]

If you had the power to make DVC consistently enforce just one and only one policy/rule, which one would it be?

Thought it would be fun to see which "violation" bothers us the most.

Feel free to post why you voted as you did, but please - let's not turn this into a debate or anything nasty!

Assume the "enforcement cost" is the same for each option and please also assume that I have correctly interpreted DVC/Disney's rules.

Have fun!

Here's a link to the first "If You Had the Power ....." Poll for those who may not have seen it or want to read it again.

Best wishes -

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I like them all, and think they all should be enforced. If I must pick, the order I arranged them below would be my order of importance-

1) Transferred points will always retain their original use year & home resort status. (Fix computer glitch).

2) No smoking in the non smoking DVC units (incl balconies) by anyone ever (incl housekeeping & mtce).

3) DVC pools are for resort guests and DVC-approved pool hoppers only.

4) DVC member perks are for members and their guests staying with them only - not renters.

5) Maximum occupancy of DVC units are as stated in the POS (St= 4+1, 1B=4+1, 2B=8+1 & 3B=12+1).

Anyway, #1 above seems almost against the law if it's not enforced. Kind of the same effect as the resort being oversold.
#2, #3, & #4 as listed above are all very close.
I don't understand what this one means- "DVC resorts will not provide self parking for those going to a theme park."

Thanx for the interesting poll...

MG

 

[Granny]

I'm with the majority....STRICTLY enforce the no smoking rules in a non-smoking room. My daughter has allergies and when we go to other hotels that don't enforce this she is miserable. So far, DVC has always provided a room without a trace of smoke odor.

I don't understand what this one means- "DVC resorts will not provide self parking for those going to a theme park."

Maistre G....I think this refers to the practice some advocate of parking at DVC resorts to avoid paying for parking. Example, self-park at WL for free and take the boat over to MK to avoid the parking charge. Or probably the worst offenders would happen at BWV.

 

[CarolMN]

Originally posted by Granny
...(snip).... Maistre G....I think this refers to the practice some advocate of parking at DVC resorts to avoid paying for parking. Example, self-park at WL for free and take the boat over to MK to avoid the parking charge. Or probably the worst offenders would happen at BWV.

Yes, that's it. It's probably not worded very well.

Parking is an issue for many BWV/ BWI guests (and maybe even for the BCV/BC/YC guests, although those lots seem to be bigger than the BWV/BWI lots).

It's very difficult to find self-parking in the BWV/BWI lots in the late aftrenoon and early evenings. But there's always lots of space afer IllumiNations gets out. I don't think this is as big a deal for WL, because the scoflaws usually choose the CR, Poly or GF if they are going to the MK.

Best wishes -

 

[pplasky]

I am not adament about anything but the smoking. It is unhealthy. My son has asthma, and to suffer an attack simply because someone had to have a cigarette just doesn't cut it.

 

[laceemouse]

Thanks for the great poll! I voted for the pool one as I recently heard people planning to break it and it made me MAD! I guess the smoking one would bother me more but, like Granny, I have not yet had a problem with this at DVC. I must admit it took me a while to decide how to vote.

 

[JimC]

For your list it was an easy choice. No smoking - including the balconies!!!

 

[inky dinky doo]

You need another option in your poll. None of the things you listed bother me, so I didn't vote.

1) Smoking -- I don't get all that upset about others smoking as long as they don't blow it right in my face. I guess I have more of a "live and let live" philosophy.

2) Pool Hopping -- We own at BCV and generally go to WDW in late Oct./early Nov. and in early December. Pool crowding hasn't been a issue for me.

3) Member Perks -- I was a renter before I became an owner. If renters get member perks, it doesn't bother me at all. Why should it? It certainly doesn't hurt me.

4) Points Transfers -- Since I don't plan to transfer points, this is a non-issue for me.

5) Maximum Occupancy -- We live within the maxium occupancy rules. If others don't, that's between them and DVC. I don't think it's quite the problem that others make it out to be.

6) Parking -- Since we always rely on Disney transportation, parking is never an issue for us.

Gosh! I didn't realize I was quite so laid back. {where's a smilie in a hammock when you need one?)

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by inky dinky doo

4) Points Transfers -- Since I don't plan to transfer points, this is a non-issue for me.

This is the one that sticks in my craw...
You see, if a member with a 400 point OKW contract were to transfer points to someone else's 25 point VB add-on contract, that person would be able to use those relatively inexpensive OKW points to book a Beach Cottage at the 11 month window.

On the other hand, the member who is paying the high fees at Vero Beach, plus a possible special assessment for hurrcane damage, may lose the Beach Cottage availability if they don't book day by day, at 9:00am.

I picked an extreme example to illustrate my point, but I think you get the idea.

Now, I bet you are wondering why I quoted you...

Just an example, but since you own at BCV, you should not have to compete against non-BCV owners for the dedicated 2br with 2queens.
In other words, it may affect you, and you don't even know it.

MG

 

[kathleena]

Health concerns win hands down.

 

[inky dinky doo]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Now, I bet you are wondering why I quoted you...

Just an example, but since you own at BCV, you should not have to compete against non-BCV owners for the dedicated 2br with 2queens.
In other words, it may affect you, and you don't even know it.

MG [/B]

You know what they say about ignorance being bliss, don't you, MG. I guess that's one of the advantages of being a fairly new DVCer. I don't know enough about some things to get excited.

You're right, though. That doesn't seem fair, but since I call day by day at 7 a.m. it's still sort of a non-issue . . . at least for me . . . so far.

Pat

8 days and counting . . . again!

 

[Desperado]

1) No smoking in the non smoking DVC units (incl balconies) by anyone ever (incl housekeeping & mtce).
This is the most important, people's health is at risk

2) DVC pools are for resort guests and DVC-approved pool hoppers only.
I anticipate pool hopping being discontinued for DVC. The number of DVC resorts and guests is growing too large to be able to continue to support this. Seems like the problem of local pool crashers is being addressed.

3) "DVC resorts will not provide self parking for those going to a theme park."
This seems like an important one if resorts are running out of parking

4) Transferred points will always retain their original use year & home resort status. (Fix computer glitch).
Didn't realize this was a problem

5) DVC member perks are for members and their guests staying with them only - not renters.
I don't think the perks are that much to crow about anyway. Not that big a deal.

6) Maximum occupancy of DVC units are as stated in the POS (St= 4+1, 1B=4+1, 2B=8+1 & 3B=12+1).
This one should be between the DVC member and MS. Seems to me a 1 bedroom is perfectly acceptable for 5 guests.

7) The one I didn't see is regular auctioning off on ebay of prime holiday periods by a few individuals as a profit making practice in violation of the commercial use clause.
This one has certainly sparked debate in the past, enough that it's probably worthy to include as a part of this poll.

 

[DebbieB]

I voted for non-smoking. I could care less if a family of 5 has an extra kid in a studio or 1 bedroom.

The parking issue is a pet peeve for me at BWV. It would be difficult to prove who is going to the boardwalk to eat and who is going to Epcot. I doubt anyone who pulls up to the guard says they are going to Epcot. What I would like to see is a gated section of the selfpark for BW hotel guests, you would need a room key to get in.

 

[pplasky]

Originally posted by DebbieB
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The parking issue is a pet peeve for me at BWV. It would be difficult to prove who is going to the boardwalk to eat and who is going to Epcot. I doubt anyone who pulls up to the guard says they are going to Epcot.

Of course they don't, if they did they would be denied access.

 

[beacher]

I just can't help but think the smoking issue takes precedence... particularly on the BALCONIES? It blows right into any nearby room! Ugh. Smokers probably feel really picked on anymore but it's with some cause.... it stinks (and lingers) and it aggravates any condition someone has. No smoking should mean no smoking.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Smoking - this one affects the health of DVC owners & their guests, all the others are inconveniences.

Amusing to see that some rules are considered "important", yet other rules are viewed as, shall we say, negotiable....

 

[Happy Birthday Cat]

Originally posted by inky dinky doo
1) Smoking -- I don't get all that upset about others smoking as long as they don't blow it right in my face. I guess I have more of a "live and let live" philosophy.

An ironic statement considering you are talking about SMOKING!

I voted smoking and would vote to ban it from all WDW property completely if I could (keeing your tradition alive Nick!).

HBC

 

[crisi]

1) No smoking in the non smoking DVC units (incl balconies) by anyone ever (incl housekeeping & mtce).
Voted for this. Doesn't bug me too much, but bugs me more than anything else

2) DVC pools are for resort guests and DVC-approved pool hoppers only.
I assume you really mean resort pools - not DVC pools. We haven't had crowded pool problems, but pool crashers would bug me if we did. However, DVC pool hopping would bug me if we had crowded pools and no blackout window.


3) "DVC resorts will not provide self parking for those going to a theme park."
We don't drive, but this would be my number two choice.


4) Transferred points will always retain their original use year & home resort status. (Fix computer glitch).
I always thought this was a "feature"

5) DVC member perks are for members and their guests staying with them only - not renters.
Don't really care. If Disney wants to give away their profit, that's their business. Not sure how Disney could tell the difference between a guest not staying with a member and a renter though. I think, practically speaking, it would have to be members and guests traveling with members - which I think a lot of people would have a problem with.

6) Maximum occupancy of DVC units are as stated in the POS (St= 4+1, 1B=4+1, 2B=8+1 & 3B=12+1).
If Disney doesn't care (and they don't seem to) I don't care. Really, I can't see how inconvienent bathroom schedules for another family concern me.

 

[Dean]

All are reasonable. The one I'm interested in is renters getting discounts. It's a perk that has no cost to DVC at all thus enforcing it would be only for the reason of making DVC members FEEL special without any real benefit to the members at all.

 

[Desperado]

Originally posted by DrTomorrow
....Amusing to see that some rules are considered "important", yet other rules are viewed as, shall we say, negotiable....

Scary to see how some only see black and white, on or off, and fail to acknowledge that Disney has the right to determine what is in the best interest of thier guests, which are steadfast for safety etc., and which are put in place for contractual reasons should the need arise to fall back on a position because plans did not work as expected.

Originally posted by crisi
....6) Maximum occupancy of DVC units are as stated in the POS (St= 4+1, 1B=4+1, 2B=8+1 & 3B=12+1).
If Disney doesn't care (and they don't seem to) I don't care. Really, I can't see how inconvienent bathroom schedules for another family concern me.

Thank you, well said.

A non-smoker having to stay in a smoke infested room that was marked as non-smoking can ruin an entire vacation, permeating the room for the full stay. It seems this has the greatest potential for harm to me.

I also didn't see the rule to make sure everyone showers before entering the pool listed which has come up many times. Any staunch rule abiders/advocaters ever broken that rule?