ANOTHER Adventure in Autism (4/15) A Taste of What's to Come...

Kathy

I am so EXCITED you have the April trip!!!!

Though I must admit a tad disappointed at the dates.....we are leaving on4/20! Booked for the same reason,with an early Easter we have a better vacation slot for a trip.

Would have LOVED to have done a Dis Meet with you!

We were staying at SSR 4/16-4/20 but just moved that ressie to OKW ~ so close but yet so far!

Love the report, am really feeling for Aunt Rae though.....what a difference since your last trip, she seems so sweet.....she must have been so frustrated!

Kate
 
Chapter 15: After the Feast, We All Went East!


Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
-ARTHUR C. CLARK, Profiles of the Future, 1962


Once we had finished our meal at the Garden Grill, which had included veggies from Disney’s hydroponic gardens, we were ready to explore some magical technology. “…Science and technology take center stage with an up-close look at space travel, vehicle testing, communications, and energy” is how Passporter describes Future World East. Unfortunately for us, Spaceship Earth was still closed for renovation at the time, so we would need to explore the field of communications another time. We decided that if we couldn’t do Spaceship Earth, we would go for another type of space travel….Mission Space!


Now, before you turn green and run for the bathroom :sick: just thinking about flight simulators immediately following lunch, let me assure you that we were definitely planning to do Mission SPACE Light. (Does anyone else find it ironic that the non-motion sickness option is labeled the Green Team?) Seems it should be the other way around!


Billy and Tricia breeze toward the breezeway...

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Now you may recall that Ed has this inner ear thing that makes it difficult for him to do spinning rides without getting queasy. I don’t think he trusted me completely when I tried to get him on MS last year, even though I kept telling him that the Green Team would not make him sick, because he opted not to try it. :confused3 This year I really wanted him to do it with us. He loves aeronautics and I secretly think that if it hadn’t been for his vestibular condition he would have pursued a career in the military as a flier. He definitely has “the right stuff.” :cool2: Anyway, the point is, I thought he would enjoy it.

As it turned out, he took AR on a boat ride through the vegetables while I took the kids to see the surface of Mars!


Your Mission, should you choose to accept it...

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There was a CM standing outside of the MS building…which I think looks really cool, BTW, and he was holding a handful of orange tags in one hand and a handful of green tags in the other. He asked everyone which “team” he or she was interested in joining and provided a description of the difference between the two for guests who were not aware of the distinction. We grabbed our green cards (ha!) and continued toward the entrance where yet another CM stopped us and made sure we would be entering the correct queue. There are also huge WARNING signs everywhere…I have to admit it would be a bit unnerving to me if I were planning to do the Orange Team! The crowd level was so light that they weren’t even doing FastPass, just letting everyone through on standby, which is always a good sign. :thumbsup2


We filed through the lobby of the International Space Training Center and, since the queue was moving slowly, we had the chance to read all about the milestones in space travel: past, present, and future. The backstory for this attraction has us doing our training about 30 or 40 years in the future, so the Imagineers had to make up some “future-past” milestones, such as the First Family in Space, 2025!


The long, winding queue was moving along nicely until we got about halfway to the best part of the attraction (getting “briefed” for our mission by Gary Sinise!) The Orange queue, which was shorter than the Green BTW, kept moving but we greenies were at a standstill for about five minutes. I was just about wonder whether or not we should exit the line and try back at a later time when the queue began inching forward once more. Billy was bouncing up and down like Tigger and kept chanting, “Mission SPACE, please, Mommy!” over and over. “Yes, yes, Mission Space, I promise!” was my mantra. When we finally boarded our simulator, I quickly stowed my baggallini and made sure Billy was secured…which was a minor challenge since he continued to bounce, bounce, bounce up and down in his seat!

:tigger:


The cabin is designed for four, so we were sharing our flight with a woman in her mid-thirties who must have been doing the single-rider line. It may have been her first flight, because she seemed quite preoccupied with making sure she knew what to do with her control panel. :laughing: I tend not to even pay attention to the whole “crew assignment” portion of the ride…I just keep looking at the screen (and my kids.) Billy presses both his buttons furiously during the entire flight, so he more than makes up for my lack of involvement I think!


It was a fun flight and we exited to the Space Base playground and no, Billy was not even going to go near those hamster tubes this time! The two began to play one of the games (in English, mind you) and were busy moving their virtual astronaut over the surface of Mars when Ed called and told us to meet them at Test Track. Billy did not need to be told twice… TT is one of his favorites!


Time to get some windburn!

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Aunt Rae was quite firm about sitting this one out, so we left her on a sunny bench where she sipped her water and did some people watching. Once again we found that the GAC was not necessary….standby queue only. So far, the only attraction that we’d seen using FP was Soarin’. So much for the dreaded Jersey Week crowd predictions! (It was still only Monday, however.) We walked all the way through the noisy queue to the second CM with nary a stop and were positioned in front of the doors to the pre-show. I laughed at Billy because he had his fingers in his ears (but a smile on his face) as he walked through the testing plant. I should’ve put his earplugs in. Did I say the queue was noisy? I could’ve used those earplugs myself!


The automatic doors flung open and we moved from the brightly-lit waiting area to the darkened room. “Scary!” Billy said as he clung to Ed’s arm. (He recently has begun to be somewhat afraid of the dark…I think it’s the age…they tend to get nightmares a lot around 8 or 9.) But he was soon engrossed in the pre-show up on the screen. We were given a glimpse of what to expect from our automotive test…as if we didn’t already know…and the second set of doors opened and we joined the winding final stage of the queue as it snaked around and around, bringing us closer to the track. Its always fun to see the “test” vehicles filled with guests who had just finished their ride…everyone is usually laughing, or wiping the tears from their eyes, or fixing their hair, or trying to undo their seatbelts too soon.


TT Trivia Tidbit: Each vehicle carries three onboard computers that combine to exceed the processing power aboard the Space Shuttle!


Eventually we made it to our car…we got a bright yellow one this time…and Tricia and I took the back seat so that Billy and his daddy could ride up front. Billy was giggling, stomping his feet and rocking to and fro with anticipation. “Here we go!!” he shouted as we began to accelerate uphill and then took a very bumpy ride downhill. He laughed and laughed! We got roasted and cooled, then twisted and turned around a series of curves going ever faster to my son’s delight. We all couldn’t help but laugh as we turned in toward the barrier crash test and he shrieked with anticipation. “Here we go!!” he yelled again, and we braced for the rapid acceleration and bang! We were outside in the dazzling sunlight tearing up the straightaways and banking around the hairpin curves!! Even with my sunglasses on my eyes always water from the wind! It was over in a flash and both kids begged to do it again. “Perhaps later, if we have time,” I placated them. “Your Aunt Rae has been waiting for us all this time, you know.”

“All this time” was actually just 25 minutes.

We checked out our picture…nah…not very good…and treaded through the gift shop and out again into the sunlight. (Lots of Hummer merchandise in there, it seemed.) We circled around to where we had left Aunt Rae and…she wasn’t there! “She probably just went to the restroom,” I said, but we found her not far away sitting on a bench in the shade. “The sun was too bright for my eyes,” she explained. I know it must have been bothering her if she left a warm spot to sit in the cooler shade. AR is always cold. :cold: It was a gorgeous, sunny day and it felt like the temp was pushing 80 degrees, yet she was wearing a tee shirt, a sweatshirt, jeans and a jacket! “Aunt Rae, you have no blood,” Tricia said as she held her aunt’s hand. “Your hand is like ice!”

“How’re you feeling, Aunt Rae?” I asked. Remember, we were staying all day without a break. It was now 2:20pm; we typically would be back at the resort trying to rest by now. “I’m okay,” she said just a little too quickly. “Well, I don’t want you ankle to start acting up again,” I warned. (If you recall, she went to the hospital with an attack of gout just a couple of weeks earlier.) She was looking tired, too. Our next stop would give her a good chance to rest, however. We were off for a long visit with Ellen and her friends, the dinosaurs, at Universe of Energy.


AR feels like ice, but Tricia feels the need to cool off in the mist...

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The F&WF is over, but the colorful signs are still everywhere...

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Time to get energized...

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A rainbow of color decorates a solar-powered building

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We seem to be in luck...looks like the last group is getting out...

Who will fall asleep during the ride, I wonder, and who will we miss bumping into by only a few minutes??


Kathy
 
great update

great cliffhanger

poor aunt rae...I hope she does okay the rest of the trip....I hope she had a good time.
 
What a great day. Hope Aunt Rae is feeling better after a respite at UoE. IT's a great place to nap:thumbsup2
 

Chapter 16: A Communication From A Friend​

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Hi Everybody! I recently received a PM from a fellow DISer who expressed some genuine concerns about the information I am posting about our family's use of the Guest Assistance Card, or GAC, during our trip. Perhaps some of you have had similar concerns. I'm glad this friend shared her thoughts with me, and I'd like to use it as an opportunity to take a brief time-out from the report to talk about the GAC a bit more.


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Here is her PM:

"Hi Kathy,
I love the trip report! I....also have an ASD son who loves WDW!
Please do not be offended, but please reconsider posting such specific information about the GAC. I have personally heard people make comments like "just say autism and you get front of the line!" (not true!) and there have been many GAC's for sale on ebay promising just that!
I know that a GAC can make the trip possible for kids like ours, but I am afraid that posting such specific information about it can invite abuse from people who would do things like that.

Another reason not to post such specific information is that the accomodation provided (even with the same stamp on the GAC) can differ from day to day. For example, sometimes it may not be possible for a child to sit in the front at Crush even if the family has a GAC and if the parents had read that you were able to do this, it can lead to a disappointment or even a meltdown if a child had been promised to do it too.

Please understand that I am not being critical...I am just a little bit cynical about the cheaters after the GACs on ebay and after comments I have overheard. I also would hate for a family to think that they could show up late during busy season and still get seated at Fantasmic because they have a GAC- KWIM?

Thanks for 'listening' !"

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I certainly do understand these concerns and, to be honest, it is not the first time that someone has communicated them to me. I clearly remember one DISer, also the parent of an ASD child, who was making his first trip to WDW with his family last year. He said practically the same thing to me when I was writing my last trip report.


..."People with typical kids will just say that one of their children is autistic, and then they'll get the GAC, and then before you know it there will be so much blatant abuse of the GAC as a 'front of the line pass' that Disney will stop offering them to those of us who really need them!"...

Well, I'm paraphrasing of course, but you get the idea.


I really thought about it long and hard and this is what I believe:


First: Our WDW trips would not be possible without the accommodations that WDW provides for our son. Okay, the trips would be possible, but they would be fraught with a whole lot more stress and anxiety….much more than what would make the effort worthwhile.


Our Disney trips pretty much are what they are because of the GAC. It is an integral part of our WDW experience and to gloss over that would just not be an accurate representation of the nature of our trips. We are a special needs family and much of my report describes how we manage to handle those needs while at WDW. Sometimes we handle them better than others, but I think people need to know that. The GAC alone does not make every day in the parks a breeze. I believe it really helps just to know that there are other families out there struggling with the same issues, joys, and pains.


Second: I believe that the GAC takes into account that every special needs traveler is different and needs different accommodations. Heck, each and every kid on the autistic spectrum has different behaviors, communication abilities, and sensory issues. That is why it is referred to as a spectrum of disorders. Our experience with the GAC is exactly that….our experience. Billy is not exactly like Trey, Trey is not exactly like Alex, and Alex is not like the next child with autism (and so on, and so on.)


Every GAC is different because everyone’s needs are different. There is a “sticky” at the top of the DisABILITIES board that describes the GAC in detail: Disabilities FAQs It is a good source of information on the subject.



I’ve said it in this report, just like I’ve said it in my first one: The GAC is not a front of the line pass. And it certainly does not guarantee one a seat at the big nighttime spectaculars if one does not plan properly and arrive early. (If you recall, we did not get seats in one of the handicapped areas that night at Fantasmic…they were all filled!) We found seats that were fine for us just the same. So much for my OTP! (Obsessive Trip Planning.)



And Last: Yes, there are probably folks out there who would try to obtain a GAC under false pretenses and use it to make their touring easier; I’m sure that its been attempted and even done. It’s not for me judge them…they’ll have to answer to their Maker someday.

I believe that I would rather see a dozen non-scrupulous people get a GAC and use it unfairly than to see just one deserving family have a miserable time because they were either too intimidated to ask for one or just not aware of how much it could help a special needs child. Or worse yet…. not even attempt a trip to WDW because of their child’s disability.


I hope that if any of you are out there, you think twice about staying home after reading my reports. Your child needs WDW just as much as the next one. Perhaps more.

Thanks again for reading,


Kathy
 
I'm a GAC fan but we've never used it. Every year I ask LtP, "Why don't we GAC"? Every year she shrugs her shoulders. :confused3

Luckily, our guy does well in lines. LG however... :sad2:

Thanks Kathy. You just keep on using that GAC so we can see you continuing to go to WDW and sharing your wonderful experiences. ::yes::


Now, back to the trippy. popcorn::
 
Well said Kathy!! Those of us with kids who NEED a GAC know that it makes a BIG difference in the Disney experience. Yes, it would be a shame for a few bad apples to ruin it for those who truly need it, but I don't think Disney would do that, and I would hope that there aren't THAT many bad apples out there. And to any that ARE there, shame, shame, shame on them!
 
I agree - beautifully said.

AND I did not know that was Michael Eisner who hit the golf ball in Soarin' - ooh, something Rhonda doesn't know!!! (I hope!)

And my favorite part of Soarin' is the applause that breaks out every single time I've ridden it!!! THAT is Disney Magic to me! :cloud9:
 
Kathy, what a beautifully, intelligent post. I completely enjoy your reports, I think it is good that posters read what can be done with the GAC. If I see a new poster on the DISablilities board with "autism in the parks" question, I refer them to your reports.

Don't change a thing, the reports are wonderful and factual just the way they are.
 
Hi Kathy! Thanks for posting that. Your "Adventures in Autism" are what drew me to the Dis. I was searching the internet for "Walt Disney World and Autism" before our last trip and your trip report came up. I already knew about the GAC at that point, but I'm sure there are others doing the same search who have no idea it exists.

If I hadn't heard about the GAC and the wonderful dietary accomodations at WDW, we NEVER would have considered going in 2006. Because of it we have been twice in the last two years and can't wait to get back. We have also learned to ask about similar accomodations at amusements parks and have now been going to Story Land in NH every summer for the past 3 years.

Without this accomodation, we wouldn't be able to go. Waiting in line for 20 minutes at Soarin' (with the GAC) was almost enough for us to call it a day during our October trip. If we had to do that over and over all day long, we would be leaving after 2-3 rides.

I can appreciate that people want to keep the use of the GAC for the individuals it was intended, but as Kathy said, if someone searching the internet comes across Kathy's report and learns of the GAC making a WDW trip possible, that it a wonderful thing!

Thanks to everyone for their opinions!
Amy
 
Kathy,
that was a great post and I want to thank you for telling me about the GAC. We have been to Disney quite a few times since my son's diagnosis but we always make it a point to go at the slowest times of the year so that the lines are short. My son is HORRIBLE in lines - he doesn't want strangers to look at him, talk to him, touch him, etc. Well, my extended family suggested we go to Disney around Christmas to see the decorations. Well I instantly thought "Forget it"! There will be crowds and long lines on the rides he loves to go on because of the holidays. Then, because of yours posts, I found out about the GAC and we gave it a try. I have to say we only used it one time (on Dumbo-wait time 45 minutes-incredibly long line) and we did not get on right away. They put us in the handicapped line which only had about 5 people in it and DS did wonderful. Overall, that was my favorite trip with him - seeing all of the Christmas decorations and the "dancing lights" at MGM - it was beautiful to see him so excited and happy.

Thank you :lovestruc
 
We have not decided whether or not to GAC on our trip (DS is mild on the Spectrum).

That said - I'm glad to know it is available if we need it.

We have chosen a slow time to go - and I'm using TGM (and UG) to plan our days...

Anyway - Your Adventures in Autism absolutely got me into Trip Reports - and have made this long (almost a year) of planning way, way more fun and enjoyable.

:thumbsup2 :lovestruc :wizard: :hug: :upsidedow
 
Kathy,
Belated Welcome Back,:cool1:

Now I need to go back and read what I have missed
 
I missed your last report while I concentrated on the GAC update. :sad2:

kathy said:
TT Trivia Tidbit: Each vehicle carries three onboard computers that combine to exceed the processing power aboard the Space Shuttle!

Is that really true? How could that be?:confused3
 
Is that really true? How could that be?:confused3


Hey, Buzz, it sounds amazing but I got that info from The Imagineering Field Guide to Epcot: An Imagineer's-Eye Tour, by the Imagineers.

Those guys should know!

More Test Track Trivia:

-The computers manage each car through its paces, at varying speeds, including a complete stop, and maintain the proper intervals between the vehicles. Each vehicle is equipped with onboard audio-visual systems.

-The chassis of each vihicle is made entirely of composite materials, meaning there is no steel between the front and rear wheels.

-Each vehicle generates 250 horsepower, more than most passenger cars on the road today.

-Test Track is the fastest Disney attraction anywhere in the world, attaining a top speed of 65 miles per hour.


I love finding out stuff like this. (Told 'ya I was a nerd!)


Kathy
 
Your post on the GAC was very well written, I truly hope people who don't need one don't go and get one!!!
 
I’m not sure why, but it always seems to be a bit easier getting up and out the door on Day Two

I never have a problem getting up and out the door when I am at Disney...:cool1: …now my family is another matter...:sad2:

Tricia found a CM wearing a pin lanyard and asked me if she could trade pins. Sure, why not?

Tricia struck up a conversation with a girl who was just about her age and they showed each other their lanyards full of pins,

“Hello, I’m Tricia, I’m a Pinoholic”

Hello Tricia

So Tricia are we going to get to see pictures of the pins you traded for on the trip?...:woohoo:


We never miss seeing Figment he is Sorceress favorite character. I understand that he can be seen outside of the pavilion, but we haven’t been lucky enough to catch him for a picture

We have never eaten at the Garden Grill; the food looks and sounds good.

Universe of Energy=GUD

Great updates Kathy

Congrats on the upcoming trip,
 













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