Remember that APs are for park admission first, any discounts provided after that are a bonus. In the past there were AP rates at the resorts, sometimes at all, sometimes at value only. The new "Best rate" program for AP holders seems to be taking the place of the AP discounted room rate. I have an AP because I do go for more than the number of break even nights. I have been able to get great room rates and standard rates depending on when I booked, where I was staying, etc. Currently you also get a discount of 10% at most Epcot Table Service restaurants, at a few places in DTD, merchandise discounts at a couple of places in DTD, and $25.00 off the price of a Disney Dining Ecperience card. That card gives you 20% off dining at just about everywhere, including alchohol. FOr me, the DDE and the AP are great ways to save on what I have to buy anyway,park admission and food. THe rest is just a nice extra.