Actually, if you know you're taking 2 trips in a year, doesn't that break-even point (# of days) decrease? That's what DH figured for next year. He's going in April for 5 days, then planning to go again in the fall and only go to the parks for a couple days. He has 2 options: either buy a 7 day hopper, non expiring ticket in April, for $367.43 or buy a 5 day hopper non-expiring one then, for a cost of $267.32, then a 2 day hopper in the fall, for a cost of $188.51, making the yearly total about $455. That's not counting all the AP discount golf he says he "has to" play to be extra sure he gets his money's worth