An underwhelming response

I've lived 20 minutes from Disney for several years. We are going from NC to FL in July 2018 and no way would I camp. After a long hot day in the park, I want to cool off, relax, and sleep good. I can't sleep when I'm hot and I would not be rested enough for the next day. I might make it a day or two but I would be exhausted before the trip was over and therefore would enjoy the trip less. I'm certain everyone in my group would feel the same. I don't need tired, hot, cranky people forced into close quarters with my tired, hot, and cranky self for days on end. We are a family of 6 and I can actually rent a vacation house for less than the camping rates, so that's the plan. I found a nice 3 bedroom/2 bathroom house with its own pool a few minutes away. We are driving so we have our own car.

I'm not you though so to you, your plan may work better. Nothing at all wrong with that and I hope you have the amazing time you deserve. Happy camping!
 
Mchurchill,

All I was saying was, camping in August in Florida is different than what you may be used to.
So be informed and get ready for it.
It's a different camping style.

Bama Ed
No worries, bama_ed. I just wanted to reply to several points made on the thread. I see from your signature that you've camped in loop 1500 several times-that's where I'm thinking of requesting. Seems nice and close to the Meadows pool and Trading Post. Are the sites shady there, or are they all different?
 
I hate camping. Hate it. HATE IT.

As in: I would rather be home than at WDW in a tent. Honestly. The way some people hate math or giving speeches. (And, yes, I teach math and coached Speech & Debate for 18 years.)
Okay, so I have to ask, if you hate camping that much, why are you lurking around a camping thread?

(not complaining about it, just curious.)
 
For the most part, they are shady, mchurchill.

I love 1500 and would camp in a Tent site every time with my popup if I could reasonably expect to be assigned to 1500. But with only 21 sites and its prime location, it is very much in demand and the chances are that you will end up in the other tent loop 2000 which is okay but not as prime a location and it's a bigger loop - nearly 70 sites. Coming in August as you plan to (a lower demand time) and if you can arrive on a weekday, your chances are better to get 1500. If arriving at the Fort on a Friday or Saturday, arrive as early in the morning as you can and offer to wait for a site to come open in 1500 if one will become available later that day. Of course, this assumes you've requested loop 1500 in your early check-in option in MDE.

I like the sites along the back of the loop that back up to the canal (waterfront property) which are 1510, 1511, and 1513. Of these, 1511 is the best. 1510 has a tree growing inside the timbers which would make placing the popup problematic and 1513 is built back into a small hillside (I had it once) but very serviceable - i just took my folding chair on the hill and enjoyed the view (canoers, deer, birds, etc).

That's my two cents.

Bama Ed
 

Okay, so I have to ask, if you hate camping that much, why are you lurking around a camping thread?

(not complaining about it, just curious.)

The title gave no indication that this was a "camping thread."

Your response came up under "alerts" since you posted on a thread on which I had posted.
 
The title gave no indication that this was a "camping thread."

Your response came up under "alerts" since you posted on a thread on which I had posted.
Ah... Okay. Just curious! :)

So can we convert you to a camper? Maybe a "Glamper" ? (Glamorous Camping.... Full RVs, all the comforts of home, etc..)

My DW is more of a Glamper. I could be happy with the Pup Tent and a backpack (just don't ask me to dress up for fine dining in those situations). I love the outdoors that much. Don't get me wrong though, I also like those creature comforts too... I guess I am just all around flexible.
 
Oops, my apologies. I didn't notice that this was in the camping forum.

I'll bow out now as gracefully as I can.
 
I live in Florida. We went camping, in a tent, for the first time ever at the Fort in August in 2014. I thought I was going to die.

We had air conditioning. We had fans. We almost went home.

I am returning to the Fort this year; in a cabin.

Do absolutely what you want to do, but Bama_Ed is so, so right. No matter how many ways you want to spin it (I've camped when it was 90 degrees outside, I don't wear makeup, I have experience with Florida heat, whatever) know that before I went in August, I did all that too and I still thought I was nearly going to die when we tried it.

However, the campground was full of people; lots of other "near death" partakers like us. I'll tell you this, I'll never do it again. Never. There's nowhere to go to escape from the heat. No one here is telling you NOT to go, we're just telling you that be prepared, the best you can be, for something you've never had the experience with. We spent most of our days in the pool and just trying to cook outside made me nearly pass out. We used the water hose CONSTANTLY to keep ourselves cool. I know you're in a pop-up, but we were in a really large tent with air conditioning and I just hope that AC unit can keep that pop up nice and cool or else I fear you'll run into the same fate as us. We never slept in because by 9am, the AC unit couldn't keep up with the rising heat and we started cooking inside the tent; so we had to get out.

I did not enjoy using the comfort stations. They were clean, don't get me wrong, but having to wake up and RUN to pee across the loop in my PJ's was not a good way to start my morning. I would only shower at night so I could have some privacy. I longed for a private bath so, so much since I was so miserable. As soon as we got home, my husband and I locked ourselves in the bathroom for a good 2 hours.

The people in the big RV's looked pretty happy and comfortable. I felt stupid for not renting one of those (I didn't know you could at the time) and instead spending money on camping gear when I KNOW I don't like to camp, but I was trying to appease my husband (he too no longer likes tent camping). Perhaps, that would be an option. Maybe a middle ground, per se, between the cabin and the popup. Maybe you won't save $2,000, but maybe you'd save $1,000 and know you're going to be comfortable over saving the $2,000 and hoping you'll be comfortable.

No matter what you decide to do, you're 100% right that it's your vacation and your money and you're free to do whatever you want and you have to decide what's best for you and your family. For mine, we'll never do anything less than a cabin in the summer months and we'll consider renting an RV in the other months.
 
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I thought of this thread as I walked out my door in South Mississippi at 7:50 this morning. I've lived here my entire life.

It was like walking into a steamy hot bathroom after a long, hot shower. Difficult to catch your breath and no where other than inside to escape. In fact, my 14 year old dd had a rare for her asthma attack at volleyball practice today because of the heat and humidity.

I remember when my aunt came to visit from South Dakota in late July one year thinking she would get up at 6 am and go for a cool morning walk. Boy did she realize in a hurry that cool mornings don't happen here in summer!

Edit to add: 10:10 pm Sun's been down since 7:45. Temperature now 85. Feels like temp 100!

Be careful, op!
 
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Genuine question since I haven't done it. Does the tent trap the heat making it hotter inside the tent than outside?
 
Genuine question since I haven't done it. Does the tent trap the heat making it hotter inside the tent than outside?
In my experience Yes the tent will hold heat in. Newer ones with vented roof and screened windows a bit less so. With these ambient air temp will be about same as outside
 
In my experience Yes the tent will hold heat in. Newer ones with vented roof and screened windows a bit less so. With these ambient air temp will be about same as outside
And further adding that tents also restrict air movement that could help (unless it's opened up and vented so that air can pass through). Air movement is important to help keep things bearable. Whether it be from a Fan or an Air Conditioner.

The Tent material will ALSO make a difference too. If you have a Nylon Tent, it won't hold the heat (or cold) as much as a tent made of canvas, for example.
 
In my experience Yes the tent will hold heat in. Newer ones with vented roof and screened windows a bit less so. With these ambient air temp will be about same as outside

And further adding that tents also restrict air movement that could help (unless it's opened up and vented so that air can pass through). Air movement is important to help keep things bearable. Whether it be from a Fan or an Air Conditioner.

The Tent material will ALSO make a difference too. If you have a Nylon Tent, it won't hold the heat (or cold) as much as a tent made of canvas, for example.

Thanks guys!
 
We had a new Nylon tent with a vented roof. We allowed it to stay vented to try and pull the hot air out, since hot air rises and cold air sinks with the hope that we'd keep our "level" of the tent cold. It sort of worked, until the sun started to heat everything up.
 
We had a new Nylon tent with a vented roof. We allowed it to stay vented to try and pull the hot air out, since hot air rises and cold air sinks with the hope that we'd keep our "level" of the tent cold. It sort of worked, until the sun started to heat everything up.
While not a perfect solution, those "Rain Flies" that are (essentially) a Tarp over top the tent (Not on it but over it) also help. It allows the rain to run off instead of hitting the tent, but it also helps slow the effects of a heating sun. Air flow between the Fly and the tent is also important to take moisture and heat from the tent away as well as hopefully taking some of the penetrating heat from above away as well.
 
While not a perfect solution, those "Rain Flies" that are (essentially) a Tarp over top the tent (Not on it but over it) also help. It allows the rain to run off instead of hitting the tent, but it also helps slow the effects of a heating sun. Air flow between the Fly and the tent is also important to take moisture and heat from the tent away as well as hopefully taking some of the penetrating heat from above away as well.

That's what we had. I'm telling you, we did our research. We took every possible precaution to deal with camping in August. We bought a Nylon tent. We bought one that had "windows" made for air conditioners, we had the rain fly that was vented off the tent, we had cross ventilation; you name it, we did it. It didn't stop the temps from reaching higher than the air conditioner could handle. However, had we had a stronger air conditioner or even two for that matter I think we might have survived better. Our tent had "3" rooms, but we had it opened so it only used 2. We sealed off the kitchen/food storage area and used the air just for the "bedroom" portion of it and kept that open at all times. It was just unbelievably hot and I think the lack of shade in our site didn't help our situation.

Live and learn.
 
OP, I wish you the best on your trip. You obviously have a very good pros/cons list which will help you make an informed decision. Hopefully the rest of the family is on board with the final decision. In the late 80's (gosh I'm getting old), my DW, 2 DDs and dog went PUP camping a lot. We had no A/C but somehow survived. Enjoy your trip and memories you'll be talking about for a lifetime. Please be sure to follow-up with a TR.
 
In the late 80's (gosh I'm getting old), my DW, 2 DDs and dog went PUP camping a lot. We had no A/C but somehow survived.
That's the funny part too... Back then, we didn't have Air Conditioners. If you did you were truly lucky (and/or well off). Open Windows, breezes, fans, etc.... We made do. I guess now-a-days, seeing someone with "Sweat" that isn't doing a workout is unacceptable. :(

I know the heat and humidity can be oppressive sometime, but we still survived. Oh well, Brave new world I guess. :)
 




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