"American Horror Story: Coven" — What did you think?

[JaneBanks]

They seriously need to make Coven a spin off. It needs to be its own series.

 

[hereyago]

Very good episode,they do keep you wondering. I thought when Hank told that girl he was a monster last year, I was thinking literally, but a killer?

 

[chellewashere]

I actually howled at the end of the show. No! I need to know more!

Really good episode. I can't WAIT for next week -in a witchy way.

Me too, I was so upset when I looked at the clock and saw it was the end. I wanted/needed more

Very good episode,they do keep you wondering. I thought when Hank told that girl he was a monster last year, I was thinking literally, but a killer?

Good Im not the only one...I thought it would come out he was a werewolf or something like that.

This really is a great story line this year. I am loving it and cant wait for the next week to happen. So who threw the acid?

 

[skatalite]

I'm hoping Frankenboyfriend shows up at the school and lays waste to all those zombies.

I will say, though, that I hope Kathy Bates gets to do more than just be the comedic relief. She's such a great actress.

 

[jrmasm]

I'm hoping Frankenboyfriend shows up at the school and lays waste to all those zombies.

I will say, though, that I hope Kathy Bates gets to do more than just be the comedic relief. She's such a great actress.

Frankenboyfriend!!

They really picked things up last night. Great episode!

 

[xCourxCorex]

Can anyone tell me what happened the last 10/15 minutes or so? I'm trying to watch on DVR and when I got to 50ish minutes (out of 68?) and went to fast forward through the commercials it just shuts off (I've tried literally TEN times! Grr)
The last thing I saw:

CAUTION SPOILERS!!!



Spaudling handed over the note and we determined Madison wasn't the next supreme due to her health condition... What else did I miss? So frustrating I can't see the end!!!

 

[Minerva Mouse]

Can anyone tell me what happened the last 10/15 minutes or so? I'm trying to watch on DVR and when I got to 50ish minutes (out of 68?) and went to fast forward through the commercials it just shuts off (I've tried literally TEN times! Grr)
The last thing I saw:

CAUTION SPOILERS!!!



Spaudling handed over the note and we determined Madison wasn't the next supreme due to her health condition... What else did I miss? So frustrating I can't see the end!!!

Check the website, you can probably catch it online, which will be way more satisfying than someone telling you.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

I did love the ending, butt. . . I can't be the only major geek out there who was thinking, through all the zombie scenes "nooo!!!! Unless they're in casket in an underground vault or similar, bodies down here don't last very long. A bunch of civil war soldiers and 19th century belles would have dissolved in the dirt way before now!" So in my mind, all the corpses are actually people who've died recently and been buried in one of the poor people's cemeteries. They usually don't bury those folks very deep and often without caskets.

Maybe Laveau's been enchanting bodies for 150 years and paying off the local authorities to ignore corpses that don't rot properly. . .

 

[MomofKatie]

I did love the ending, butt. . . I can't be the only major geek out there who was thinking, through all the zombie scenes "nooo!!!! Unless they're in casket in an underground vault or similar, bodies down here don't last very long. A bunch of civil war soldiers and 19th century belles would have dissolved in the dirt way before now!" So in my mind, all the corpses are actually people who've died recently and been buried in one of the poor people's cemeteries. They usually don't bury those folks very deep and often without caskets.

Maybe Laveau's been enchanting bodies for 150 years and paying off the local authorities to ignore corpses that don't rot properly. . .

Most of the deceased don't get buried in the earth in New Orleans- bodies are in above-ground crypts (think of the famous St Louis Cemetery)- I think it has to do with the high water table?? So if they were embalmed, bodies probably wouldn't rot away quickly. Of course, the idea that immortal voodoo queens, minotaurs, and witches running around is OK, but zombies couldn't happen because of the rotten flesh thing is funny in itself... We suspend our disbelief of some things, but not others.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

Most of the deceased don't get buried in the earth in New Orleans- bodies are in above-ground crypts (think of the famous St Louis Cemetery)- I think it has to do with the high water table?? So if they were embalmed, bodies probably wouldn't rot away quickly. Of course, the idea that immortal voodoo queens, minotaurs, and witches running around is OK, but zombies couldn't happen because of the rotten flesh thing is funny in itself... We suspend our disbelief of some things, but not others.

Only a few, wealthy folks get the vault treatment. Everyone else goes into the dirt. And if you're in an above ground vault, you get baked into powder in about a year. It's complicated, neat and sort of creepy.

How it works if your family or organization or whatever has an above ground vault is that after the funeral, someone goes in and takes the body out of the casket. They open the oldest slot in the vault. What's left of the remains of the previous occupant are put down in the bottom of the vault. The new occupant is put directly into an empty slot in the vault. The casket is broken up and thrown away. 366 (this is mandated by law) days or more later, when there's a new burial and that body is the oldest occupant, they come and put the body underneath. The heat in those vaults is pretty high and it's sort of a low level cremation, so in a year, there's almost nothing left.

Go on a tour of St. Louis #1 (Ignore anything about corpses rising up out of the ground. Seriously. There are plenty of people buried IN the ground in NO. Always have been.) the guide will explain it and answer questions to your heart's content.


I'm not entirely sure that truly poor people get embalmed, they may. I know indigent, unclaimed bodies get cremated now, but if the family claims the body, not sure. Either way, even with embalming, unless the cemetery requires vaults, the weight of the earth above a casket crushes it pretty rapidly, soil gets in and hey presto, doesn't take long for the damp soil to eat away at everything.

(Many cemeteries in Louisiana don't require vaults, btw. I have friends who are always shocked by this, and offer dire warnings about how nasty human bodies are when they decompose and have germs and nasties that other animals don't, but uhm. Well. None have offered me much in the way of documentation about this, and we do it all the time in Louisiana. I've never read of a disease outbreak due to corpses in a cemetery, so, if anyone can offer scientific evidence, I'll take it, but until then, I refuse to get upset about this.)

And yeah, I've seen pictures and read reports of excavations for below ground burials in Louisiana. Unless it was in a vault, they just don't find much. Bones. Bits of metal objects. (Just FYI - there was a really, really great excavation several years ago where a family vault - just a low, above ground brick container - was excavated. They found several metal caskets from the 19th century inside and were able to do some really, really neat work from it - the clothes were extremely well preserved and the bodies were in a pretty good state of preservation as well. So it can happen in Louisiana. . .if your family has money!)

ETA: Just remembered, I've heard folks talk about doing preservation work in old cemeteries. When the families used metal coffins or good thick virgin cypress lumber and buried shallow (3 to 4 feet or so down), those coffins survive a really long time. One man was able to map out almost all the old burials in a historic cemetery from the early 19th century by using a probe. When he felt something he stopped. He said they had buried really shallow, and apparently used really good wood or metal, so the caskets were mostly intact! Verra kewl.

 

[MomofKatie]

Only a few, wealthy folks get the vault treatment. Everyone else goes into the dirt. And if you're in an above ground vault, you get baked into powder in about a year. It's complicated, neat and sort of creepy.

How it works if your family or organization or whatever has an above ground vault is that after the funeral, someone goes in and takes the body out of the casket. They open the oldest slot in the vault. What's left of the remains of the previous occupant are put down in the bottom of the vault. The new occupant is put directly into an empty slot in the vault. The casket is broken up and thrown away. 366 (this is mandated by law) days or more later, when there's a new burial and that body is the oldest occupant, they come and put the body underneath. The heat in those vaults is pretty high and it's sort of a low level cremation, so in a year, there's almost nothing left.

Go on a tour of St. Louis #1 (Ignore anything about corpses rising up out of the ground. Seriously. There are plenty of people buried IN the ground in NO. Always have been.) the guide will explain it and answer questions to your heart's content.


I'm not entirely sure that truly poor people get embalmed, they may. I know indigent, unclaimed bodies get cremated now, but if the family claims the body, not sure. Either way, even with embalming, unless the cemetery requires vaults, the weight of the earth above a casket crushes it pretty rapidly, soil gets in and hey presto, doesn't take long for the damp soil to eat away at everything.

(Many cemeteries in Louisiana don't require vaults, btw. I have friends who are always shocked by this, and offer dire warnings about how nasty human bodies are when they decompose and have germs and nasties that other animals don't, but uhm. Well. None have offered me much in the way of documentation about this, and we do it all the time in Louisiana. I've never read of a disease outbreak due to corpses in a cemetery, so, if anyone can offer scientific evidence, I'll take it, but until then, I refuse to get upset about this.)

And yeah, I've seen pictures and read reports of excavations for below ground burials in Louisiana. Unless it was in a vault, they just don't find much. Bones. Bits of metal objects. (Just FYI - there was a really, really great excavation several years ago where a family vault - just a low, above ground brick container - was excavated. They found several metal caskets from the 19th century inside and were able to do some really, really neat work from it - the clothes were extremely well preserved and the bodies were in a pretty good state of preservation as well. So it can happen in Louisiana. . .if your family has money!)

ETA: Just remembered, I've heard folks talk about doing preservation work in old cemeteries. When the families used metal coffins or good thick virgin cypress lumber and buried shallow (3 to 4 feet or so down), those coffins survive a really long time. One man was able to map out almost all the old burials in a historic cemetery from the early 19th century by using a probe. When he felt something he stopped. He said they had buried really shallow, and apparently used really good wood or metal, so the caskets were mostly intact! Verra kewl.

Ooh, interesting (and pretty creepy). Amazing how fast all that happens.

As far as the Coven zombies: I figure if Marie Leveau has enough magic to raise the dead, she can magic flesh and bone back to form bodies from the earth, too.

 

[Minerva Mouse]

Was this on last night? My DVR didn't record anything?

 

[NewmanFamily6]

Yes it was a great episode!

 

[Cantw8]

This is the first series I have been in to since The Sopranos. I love it!

 

[hereyago]

Last night was good. I enjoyed Kathy Bates with helping Gabby S

 

[Minerva Mouse]

Yes it was a great episode!

Well Snap! Stupid DVR!

 

[disneydreamin247]

I was seriously gagging within the first 3 minutes. This season is WAY better than the last, and may even be better than the first. Of course the cast is entirely better this season as well. Bates, Bassett, AND Lange?! Wowza!

 

[TBLaube]

I love this season so far. I was disappointed with last season so am very pleased.

 

[lauradis]

I love this season so far. I was disappointed with last season so am very pleased.

Yes people keep telling me last season was great I watch two of them and went yuck zzzzzzz. This one is great, the character are so interesting.

Oh no now I'm watching two tv shows this one and walking dead.

 

[disneydreamin247]

Yes people keep telling me last season was great I watch two of them and went yuck zzzzzzz. This one is great, the character are so interesting.

Oh no now I'm watching two tv shows this one and walking dead.

The last 2 seasons started of REALLY strong, and just fell apart halfway through. I hope that doesn't happen this season. It has so much potential.