Am I the Only One Who Doesn't Tip Housekeeping?

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shatzjsl said:
::yes:: 100% agree! It's just the right thing to do.
How is tipping someone who is not supposed to be tiped (hence a non-tipped position) the right thing to do? :confused3 :confused3
 
I live in the UK and have been to WDW 7 times for a duration of 2 weeks each holiday. I have never once tipped anyone as It just doesn't even enter my mind due to It being something that only happens In expensive restaurants here.
 
I doubt that I would tip at a place that was costing me $150 or so a night (if I were to ever spend that much) cause I figure that they are earning enough to pay their staff well but I do give a couple of dollars to my Mousekeeper at the AS as I figure they are not being paid big bucks and besides I want to. If I did not I would not.
The staff at all Disney hotels get the same rate of pay. None of them are getting "big bucks". To think that hotels ( or any business) pay their staff more money because they charge more for the end product is a common misconception, the extra money very rarely goes to the staff. I'm not flaming you here, but your thought processes are not logical, maybe that's because you don't have the correct information to work from. A mousekeeper at the GF gets the same rate of pay as one at the All Star, if you think it is right to tip one, you should in theory think it's right to tip both.
 
There are loads and loads of people out there who make a less than glamorous salary, and provide services in one way or another to the general public. Shouldn't everyone start getting tips then? I just don't get it.
 

When in university I worked as a housekeeper at an upscale hotel. I rarely got tips (maybe 2 dollars a week), but when I did it always made my day. I can still remember how happy I was the day I got a 20 dollar tip.

I know what a tough job it is - I have seen how many people quit on the first day (sometimes in the first hour) because they never realized what a physical job it was, and I have seen how many people were hurt on the job (chronic back problems from all the bending and lifting, falling on wet bathroom floors...). I also know how many of the people are immigrants to the country - who are very bright, smart people, but because of language barriers, the only job they can get is housekeeping. It is not a job people take because they like it - they take it because it is the only position available to them.

At my hotel there was no pooling of tips, and the "mini-bar" staff would go in and check out each of the rooms first (on the premise that they needed to check the bar), but it was clear to all (and proven) it was to grab any tips left. I rarely stay in a hotel with a stocked mini-bar, but if I do, I always make sure my tip is in a place where only the housekeeper can find it (usually under a pillow, with a note so they know it is for them).

I do appreciate that tipping housekeeping is voluntary, I did not expect it, and tried to give everyone the same level of service, but whenever I did receive a tip, I always tried to go out of my way to make sure their room was perfect (my hotel was chronically under stocked on towels etc, so some rooms would not receive the full amount of towels, and would only be replenished if the person asked). I always made sure the people who tipped were fully stocked...

Sandra
 
Can we at least agree that tipping is a choice and those who choose not to tip are not cheap or less human or uncaring?

Ali
 
Hippychickali said:
Can we at least agree that tipping is a choice and those who choose not to tip are not cheap or less human or uncaring?

Ali

and can we also agree that those who choose to tip are not necessarily rich ore well off or snobs or show offs for saying that they tip?
 
beattyfamily said:
and can we also agree that those who choose to tip are not necessarily rich ore well off or snobs or show offs for saying that they tip?

Sure. I don't remember every saying or implying that this was the case.

Ali
 
Hippychickali said:
Sure. I don't remember every saying or implying that this was the case.

Ali

Poster sure have, maybe not you and maybe not in this particular tipping thread, but they certainly have in the past. This issue has been argued to death plenty of times in the past. This thread definitely mentions to the effect that those who tip can afford it and those who don't cannot. There were a couple of posters who mention that.
 
beattyfamily said:
and can we also agree that those who choose to tip are not necessarily rich ore well off or snobs or show offs for saying that they tip?
My only issue is with those who say that tip because "they are better off" and that they want to "help out those less fortunte". Looking at the mousekeepers/housekeepers as a charity case, IMO these people are snobs.
 
beattyfamily said:
They sure have. Maybe not in this particular tipping thread but they certainly have in the past. This issue has been argued to death plenty of times in the past. This thread definitely mentions to the effect that those who tip can afford it and those who don't cannot. There were a couple of posters who mention that.

I said, I did not say that those who tip are rich, etc. I know that if you tip you have more money than me but that doesn't make you rich by any stretch of the imagination. I'm certainly not to be held responsible for those who have expressed themselves differently on this thread or any other simply because I agree with them that tipping is a choice and therefore, not a requirement.

Ali
 
shatzjsl said:
::yes:: 100% agree! It's just the right thing to do.

That's a matter of opinion. Tipping is OPTIONAL. Enough said.

If a person wants a tip then they need to go out of their way for my pleasure. If they are just doing their job, they don't deserve a tip.
 
totalia said:
If a person wants a tip then they need to go out of their way for my pleasure. If they are just doing their job, they don't deserve a tip.


Okay, I have many comments running through my head here about your desire for "frugalness", and I'm a nice girl so I'm not going to say ANY of them...

Except I will say that I am HORRIFIED!!!! I think we're talking about tipping two different kinds of service. This is WDW!!! WE'RE talking about Mousekeeping. I'm not sure what you're talking about. :earseek:
 
mega13 said:
Okay, I have many comments running through my head here about your desire for "frugalness", and I'm a nice girl so I'm not going to say ANY of them...

Except I will say that I am HORRIFIED!!!! I think we're talking about tipping two different kinds of service. This is WDW!!! WE'RE talking about Mousekeeping. I'm not sure what you're talking about. :earseek:

What I said still applies even if you don't agree with it. Just because this is Disney is not a reason to tip. Only exceptional service is. That's the purpose of a tip.

Why should anyone be tipped for just doing the job they were hired to do?

I understand that the United States has different laws than Canada does (minimum wage here is regulated and NEVER reaches only two bucks an hour like I have heard it can in the US). It's still the same. Why should I give extra money unless they have done more than they are required to do?
 
totalia said:
I understand that the United States has different laws than Canada does (minimum wage here is regulated and NEVER reaches only two bucks an hour like I have heard it can in the US).
Minimum's are also regulated here in the US by both the state and federal government. The only ones who can ever be paid such a low wage are those who are in "tipped positions" (ie servers and bartenders). Here in California, (where I live and do payroll accounting) all employees regardless of position must be paid at least $6.75/hr, the state minimum wage. I believe that all workers should be paid at least the federal minimum or higher.

BTW I totally agree with you on why should one tip for someone else "doing their job."
 
Hippychickali said:
I said, I did not say that those who tip are rich, etc. I know that if you tip you have more money than me but that doesn't make you rich by any stretch of the imagination. I'm certainly not to be held responsible for those who have expressed themselves differently on this thread or any other simply because I agree with them that tipping is a choice and therefore, not a requirement.

Ali

I didn't say you did say that before but now you just did in this post! How in the world do you know for a fact that because someone chooses to tip they have more money than you do because you choose not to tip? I'm amazed that you know that for a fact.

How did I hold you responsible?? I don't get it. All I did was reply to your post "Can we at least agree that tipping is a choice and those who choose not to tip are not cheap or less human or uncaring?" in a general term, not accusing YOU personally of anything. All I was trying to say is the judging goes both ways on this issue.
 
beattyfamily said:
How in the world do you know for a fact that because someone chooses to tip they have more money than you do because you choose not to tip? I'm amazed that you know that for a fact.

You're absolutely right. I don't know this for fact and never said I new it for fact. It was an educated guess. This is really beside the point. All I was trying to do was to find some common ground; some things that we could all agree on but failed miserably. And so the nitpicking continues.

Ali
 
Come on guys, I didn't start this thread so it could be the new debate board. I only wanted to know if I was the only one who doesn't feel the need to tip housekeeping. Please stop the nitpicking and work on your Christmas shopping and Holiday Cheer. Have a Merry Christmas (or whichever holiday you celebrate).

Lynnette
 
Keven, I appreciated your original intention and think that it got sidetracked. This thread, IMHO, is beyond ready to be closed.

Ali
 
Hippychickali said:
You're absolutely right. I don't know this for fact and never said I new it for fact. It was an educated guess. This is really beside the point. All I was trying to do was to find some common ground; some things that we could all agree on but failed miserably. And so the nitpicking continues.

Ali

I'm not nitpicking. I was only saying that the judging goes on on both sides of the issue. That's all I was trying to say.
 
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