Am I allowed to scan my MK shoot pics & other random debates...

[DecemberBride]

LOL johanna!

I knew you had a sense of humor!!!!!!

 

[Lynn5700]

When I proof something that I shoot, I do basic color correction/exposure adjustment as needed. When someone orders a print from me, I go in and fine tune the image, remove blemishes, stray hairs, etc. Multiply that times 1500 images or so to be put on a CD to give to a bride.

Don't do it, you say? And charge a lesser rate.

Sorry, I have too much pride in my work not to. And I want my clients to have the best possible images.

So it's more than just the cost of the CD and the 15 minutes to burn it.

Yeah I see what your saying...I just think that the disney wedding packages don't really do that and I think 1000 is a little crazy in price for a copy of your images...

So I'm assuming photogs will take the time to edit every pic anyway regardless if the client is buying a cd or not so what is it going to hurt if they get a copy of the images..or maybe photogs could do something like give them the raw images/un photoshopped images on a cd and charge for photoshopped ones..IDK that would seem like the photographer isn't missing out on money...I think maybe just charge for the ones that they spend time editing.

UOTE=DisneyBrideToni;25415260]I just wish you could speak with the Disney photographer before he actually takes pictures. Sort of like a planning session with them to tell them what you are looking for in pictures, etc. I think that would help out the bride and the photographer.[/QUOTE]

yeah that would be nice

 

[PrincessBride010103]

I knew you had a sense of humor!!!!!!

that is one thing this pregnancy will NOT steal from me...my sense of humor!

 

[Gdad]

I just wish you could speak with the Disney photographer before he actually takes pictures. Sort of like a planning session with them to tell them what you are looking for in pictures, etc. I think that would help out the bride and the photographer.

Why can't you? Disney does not make arrangements for it? Does it cost extra or something? I have no idea why they would not do this as standard practice- I would not even consider shooting a wedding where I had not had a preplanning meeting.

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

I also think its important to speak with the photogs before because it gives the photographer an idea of the couple and their personality. I think that can help the photographer be creative in trying to capture the couple along with the scenery and events.

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

Why can't you? Disney does not make arrangements for it? Does it cost extra or something? I have no idea why they would not do this as standard practice- I would not even consider shooting a wedding where I had not had a preplanning meeting.

Nope as far as I know the first time you speak with them is your wedding day.

 

[wdwpluto]

Yeah I see what your saying...I just think that the disney wedding packages don't really do that and I think 1000 is a little crazy in price for a copy of your images...

If they don't (and I don't know how they work, so I can't speak to that) then yeah, $1000 is crazy.

So I'm assuming photogs will take the time to edit every pic anyway regardless if the client is buying a cd or not so what is it going to hurt if they get a copy of the images..or maybe photogs could do something like give them the raw images/un photoshopped images on a cd and charge for photoshopped ones..IDK that would seem like the photographer isn't missing out on money...I think maybe just charge for the ones that they spend time editing.

I can only speak for myself (and I know a few other colleagues who handle this the same way) I do a rough edit (using a batch procedure in Adobe Lightroom) for proofs. I don't do printed proofs, I do online viewing. This takes time, but not as much time as a fine tuning edit, which is what I do when a print is ordered or an image is included in an album.

When a print is ordered or an image is included in the album, I open it up in Photoshop and spend a fair amount of time making sure it's flawless. Because that's what my clients expect and deserve. To do that to every single image is time consuming, hence the reason photographers charge for files.

I wouldn't give out the RAW/unretouched files because say you take them and print them at Walgreens and you've got some funny stray hair sticking up and your face is maybe a little shiny because it's a typical humid Florida day. Then you show them to your friends and say wdwpluto too this. Well I did, but if you'd gotten a print from me, your skin would be flawless and your stray hairs would magically be gone. And that's a true representation of the service that I provide.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, truly, I'm not. Just giving my opinion, having once been a bride myself and now being on the other side of the fence.

And I agree strongly with whoever said that Disney ought to let you speak with your photographer ahead of time. It's important that everyone's on the same page as far as photos and that you click (no pun intended) w/ your wedding photographer. Heck, most brides spend as much, if not more, time w/ their photog on the wedding day then they do w/ their husband.

 

[PrincessBride010103]

Lynn clean out your PMs!!!!!!!!!
(your private messages not your pre-menstrual syndrome)
wow its 1am and ive still got jokes

 

[Gdad]

Nope as far as I know the first time you speak with them is your wedding day.

That is all bad- sorry. No wonder so many people are disapointed with the results.

 

[DecemberBride]

I also think its important to speak with the photogs before because it gives the photographer an idea of the couple and their personality. I think that can help the photographer be creative in trying to capture the couple along with the scenery and events.

I agree my outside photography that I hired for the wedding practically insisted I meet him before hand, so he can get to know my DF and I. I appreciated it sooo much. Now, we're having an engagement shoot with him, so we can meet and take fun pictures without the pressure of it being the "big day"! I think it's so beneficial!

 

[PrincessBride010103]

And I agree strongly with whoever said that Disney ought to let you speak with your photographer ahead of time. It's important that everyone's on the same page as far as photos and that you click (no pun intended) w/ your wedding photographer. Heck, most brides spend as much, if not more, time w/ their photog on the wedding day then they do w/ their husband.

yeah it sucks you are just randomly assigned a photog that day...

 

[calismic]

Wow I didn't realize this thread would make it to 5 pages! I just wanted to clear something up quickly. Under the Fair Use Copyright Laws you are perfectly entitled to post the images you paid for. Disney may request that the images be removed, but without a court order the site owner is under no obligation to do so. If you are concerned that Disney may go after you for posting the images, simply site the photographer and Disney will have no legal grounds for seeking removal.

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

I think that is where one of the BIG problems lie when it comes to disappointment. It might not be the photographers it may be because they don't know what you are looking for and so they just click away. Of course the price is bad but I wouldn't mind paying money for great looking pictures.

 

[Lynn5700]

Lynn clean out your PMs!!!!!!!!!
(your private messages not your pre-menstrual syndrome)
wow its 1am and ive still got jokes

HAHA I do have to clear it out lol...I'm doing it now

WDWPluto- it's ok I don't think you are being argumentive..I get what you are saying..you sound like a great photographer!! It's nice to hear you take pride in your work,good for you

 

[PrincessBride010103]

Wow I didn't realize this thread would make it to 5 pages! I just wanted to clear something up quickly. Under the Fair Use Copyright Laws you are perfectly entitled to post the images you paid for. Disney may request that the images be removed, but without a court order the site owner is under no obligation to do so. If you are concerned that Disney may go after you for posting the images, simply site the photographer and Disney will have no legal grounds for seeking removal.

LIKE O..M...G a straight answer...didnt think I'd ever get one! & I didnt think it would make 5 pages either..or turn into a debate about photographers rights, but alas! it has! but its entertaining at least
Thank you so much for posting this!

 

[DecemberBride]

Wow I didn't realize this thread would make it to 5 pages! I just wanted to clear something up quickly. Under the Fair Use Copyright Laws you are perfectly entitled to post the images you paid for. Disney may request that the images be removed, but without a court order the site owner is under no obligation to do so. If you are concerned that Disney may go after you for posting the images, simply site the photographer and Disney will have no legal grounds for seeking removal.

Now, that's interesting... I'm in law school and I actually knew what that meant... Oh wait, I'm sorryyou didn't need law school for that to be clear. Thanks for the post... it's good to know!

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

Lynn clean out your PMs!!!!!!!!!
(your private messages not your pre-menstrual syndrome)
wow its 1am and ive still got jokes

Good stuff!!

 

[theantibride]

I agree that you should be able to talk to them in adavnce and I think they are working on that! Cause when we asked about requesting someone they said nothing is guaranteed but once we're assigned our photog they would let us know who it was so we could talk to them. Granted we've gotten misinformation from this particular person before (don't know if they're new or what) but it sounds like they might be working at least a few kinks out.

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

Now, that's interesting... I'm in law school and I actually knew what that meant... Oh wait, I'm sorryyou didn't need law school for that to be clear. Thanks for the post... it's good to know!

I am a paralegal but I don't deal with copyright laws. I just sue people that get into car accidents.

 

[DisneyBrideToni]

I agree that you should be able to talk to them in adavnce and I think they are working on that! Cause when we asked about requesting someone they said nothing is guaranteed but once we're assigned our photog they would let us know who it was so we could talk to them. Granted we've gotten misinformation from this particular person before (don't know if they're new or what) but it sounds like they might be working at least a few kinks out.

That would be great! I put in a request for a photographer and my planner said she will let his manager know but I didnt hear anything about speaking with them. That would be nice to do though!!