Alcohol Policy Change?

[extechie rbd/wdt]

In my opinion, is this just was an internal leek.
Maybe something that was discussed amongst the policy makers month's ago (given the such short notice) and thereafter, a massive corporate communications failure and ability to deal with the situation. And the retraction of the policy so quickly?

3 week's notice would always stir up a massive amount of disapproval from Guest's that had booked and paid for their cruise and not an exercise in feeling the water's. You don't have to be an Imagineer to imagine how Guest's would feel about a policy change like that being implemented without due notice!

As to whether it is re-implemented at a later date with more notice, or whether the idea was deemed to much.....? Who know's?

I personally think that it should be made clear, in big letters on the contract, cruise doc's and on the luggage tag's that if you do pack soda's/alcohol in your checked luggage, and it breaks, then you will be billed for all of the damage and cleaning required.
Not only the suitcase's, clothing, personal items, but shampooing of the carpet's in the hallway, cleaning the elevator etc and a $250 fine on top.

Just my take on the whole debacle.

Ex Techie

 

[mmouse37]

I also take exception to the fact that this was never an advertised perk but a loophole that others took advantage of. If it was not an advertised perk it wouldn't be listed in the things you can and cannot bring on board. This is not a fastpass that can be used anytime after it is good that is unwritten policy. This has been advertised on their website and is in their cruise documents.

Anyone who took booze onboard took advantage of what I perceive as a loophole (totally my opinion), me included (several times!) but it does clearly state at the port with a sign (that has always been there) that NO ALCOHOL IS PERMITTED. They have just chosen not to enforce it before this.

MJ

 

[jjgarv]

From DCL website:
"Coolers filled with personal items (e.g. soda, chips, candy, etc.) may not be brought on board.".

I wonder if this will affect what Shirley can put in our gift baskets?!?

 

[grahamfam3]

I got a mojito in June and it was $10!

Maybe that helps explain the empty bars someone mentioned.

 

[disneydreamin-gang]

I'm sorry but can someone give me the link on the DCL site about the policy? I tried to find it but can't. We sail on our first cruise ever on Sept 24th. I have a bottle of wine and 1 bottle of champagne to bring on if I can.
Thanks

 

[jjgarv]

Seriously, how much liquor was your family planning on bringing aboard?

This isn't just about the amount. There are many of us who prefer to bring on a bottle of rum or wine coolers or a bottle of something that we enjoy. It's not all about quantity, but about the freedom to enjoy our drink of choice while on vacation.

 

[mmouse37]

And....a friendly reminder about not judging people. There have been many posts that lean toward judging when they question how much liquor people enjoy on a cruise. This thread is about the policy change.

Let's keep it friendly and non judgmental. Thanks!

MJ

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I'm sorry but can someone give me the link on the DCL site about the policy? I tried to find it but can't. We sail on our first cruise ever on Sept 24th. I have a bottle of wine and 1 bottle of champagne to bring on if I can.
Thanks

It's hidden away under prohibited item's! But that's about coolers.

http://disneycruise.disney.go.com/faqs/prohibited-items/food-storage-containers/

Ex Techie

 

[valbob89]

Anyone who took booze onboard took advantage of what I perceive as a loophole (totally my opinion), me included (several times!) but it does clearly state at the port with a sign (that has always been there) that NO ALCOHOL IS PERMITTED. They have just chosen not to enforce it before this.

MJ

I am guessing you are referring to PC? Here in California we feel like the foster child.

I never looked at it as a loophole (acknowledge you indicated "totally my opinion"). I did feel a bit guilty bringing my wine, in a DCL provided glass, to the theater but that first started to avoid the servers asking me if they could get me anything.

In regards to the question on how to bring a can of beer to the pool area, I've never seen them question anyone (maybe another change coming) but grab a cup if you are concerned. I would be disappointment to see DCL suddenly start to enforce the "guidelines" that are revenue builders and continue to turn a blind eye to things like saving pool lounges and seats in the theater.

 

[mickeyfan1]

My opinion only....... 3 weeks is plenty of notice. DCL is well within their rights to decide what policies they want to enforce and when. If you, in general, find it so offensive that you can no longer carry on a case of wine, 6 bottles of booze and 4 cases of water that you wish to cancel, so be it. DCL will still sail full or near to it. CCL will confiscate any liquour found in packed luggage, and they will return it either on the last night or the morning of disembarcation. Don't like the rule, CCL says too bad.

Again, my opinion, but I wish DCL would enforce all their rules and policies. They are all well stated in cruise documents and on the website. SO what if you spent thousands on your trip? Why does that make it OK for anyone to decide to dress in shorts at dinner, take flash pictures in the shows, carry on enough booze to party like a frat house? No one is forcing anyone to take a cruise on any cruise line, or to go on any vacation anywhere. Why is it that there are so many people that post on the DIS who seem to think that the rules and policies don't apply to them? Kid is 3, well lets lie and say she is 2 so we don't have to pay for her ticket into the parks. Kid is 11, well that's really 10, so they get the kids rate for a ticket. kid is 41.5 inches, well pad their shoes so they can ride anyway. And on and on. And then make sure you post it on the DIS and let all 30K or so members know that you got away with it so they can too. And then when something changes, rules are put in place, policies are enforced, make sure you whine and moan and complain so Disney will change things back.

I wonder if people do it at Universal or Sea World?

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I've just spoken to a lovely CM at DCL and the "new" policy has been revoked.

The old policy still stand's, bring your own beer/wine/chanpagne/hard liquor/soda/water without restriction in your carry on.

She actually said after not getting the memo about it being revoked, she was telling all of the callers the old policy, and she had enough of being chewed out about the change that she called management who asked why she hadn't read the message saying it was no longer happening, that she didn't get.
Corporate communication's failure and in her opinion as was mine, a leak from someone.

So everybody can calm down, bring their own booze without restriction as carry on, and go back to worrying about the new storm

Ex Techie

 

[NancyIL]

My opinion only....... 3 weeks is plenty of notice. DCL is well within their rights to decide what policies they want to enforce and when. If you, in general, find it so offensive that you can no longer carry on a case of wine, 6 bottles of booze and 4 cases of water that you wish to cancel, so be it. DCL will still sail full or near to it. CCL will confiscate any liquour found in packed luggage, and they will return it either on the last night or the morning of disembarcation. Don't like the rule, CCL says too bad.

Again, my opinion, but I wish DCL would enforce all their rules and policies. They are all well stated in cruise documents and on the website. SO what if you spent thousands on your trip? Why does that make it OK for anyone to decide to dress in shorts at dinner, take flash pictures in the shows, carry on enough booze to party like a frat house? No one is forcing anyone to take a cruise on any cruise line, or to go on any vacation anywhere. Why is it that there are so many people that post on the DIS who seem to think that the rules and policies don't apply to them? Kid is 3, well lets lie and say she is 2 so we don't have to pay for her ticket into the parks. Kid is 11, well that's really 10, so they get the kids rate for a ticket. kid is 41.5 inches, well pad their shoes so they can ride anyway. And on and on. And then make sure you post it on the DIS and let all 30K or so members know that you got away with it so they can too. And then when something changes, rules are put in place, policies are enforced, make sure you whine and moan and complain so Disney will change things back.

I wonder if people do it at Universal or Sea World?

Just an FYI - but kids need adult tickets beginning at age 10.

 

[MoranClan]

My opinion only....... 3 weeks is plenty of notice. DCL is well within their rights to decide what policies they want to enforce and when.

yes they are, but they should also give you a full refund when you decide to cancel at this stage. The contract you paid for did not state this.

 

[vmedisneymom]

I have to say that I'm starting to get offended by the assumption that because I want to bring alcohol that I'm a drunk. We should be able to post our joys or grips without being judged.

As a previous poster stated... take whatever "item" you really like (e.g. Disney quality entertainment, first run movies, free soda station, etc) and then attach either a limitation or cost to it.

Do you cruise "just to see first run movies"? No....but you might really enjoy it and if you were told you could only attend one free movie, you might get upset. Or if you were told movies would be $ 5.00 per person, you might get upset. Especially if you have 2 or 3 children that want to see the movie....and then they want to see another movie....

If the people that don't drink get on this thread and flame us - it makes you wonder what their point is? Why get on this thread at all if you don't drink? The topic is obviously not a concern for them so why? Maybe hazing people makes them feel better, but quite frankly we are celebrating tonight and I am reading this while our prime rib cooks with a cherry limeade martini! and now I am not headed to an AA meeting tomorrow!

 

[Wendy&Grumpy]

But want a couple glasses of fine wine at a reasonable rate and people start talking about having an alcohol problem.

If I can't have my alcohol, it's a probem.

I guess I have an alcohol problem.

 

[vmedisneymom]

Its the idea that I can take a carnival cruise in Oct for $1205.26 or the Disney Cruise for $2834.40 for the same type of cabin, same dates, etc. For $1600+ I should be able to take a couple bottles of wine. I chose the Disney cruise and booked under the unlimited wine policy. I am not having a kegger by the pool or falling down the steps drunk on either cruise line. I want the guidelines to apply that I booked under.

 

[justmestace]

yes they are, but they should also give you a full refund when you decide to cancel at this stage. The contract you paid for did not state this.

The contract doesn't say anything at all about carrying on alcohol...but it does say this:


"This Cruise Contract is valid only for the Guest named hereon for the voyage indicated and is not transferable or assignable without the Carrier's written consent. Passage money and charges prepaid shall be deemed fully earned when paid and shall not be refunded in whole or in part under any circumstances whatsoever except in compliance with that section of the Carrier's brochure entitled "Cancellations/Refunds" applicable to the voyage for which passage is arranged under this Cruise Contract."

 

[jjgarv]

But i'm still confused , based on the # of unhappy postings; there just seems to be a lot of folks whose ability to have an enjoyable cruise is in direct correlation to the amount of liquor they are allowed to bring on board. But that's just the impression i'm getting after reading all of these posts.

You couldn't have read all the posts, because if you had, you would also notice that some folks take issue that the policy limited us to wine and beer only. Many people carry on a particular type of liquor to enjoy on their vacation.

Frankly, I don't understand why so many folks who apparently don't drink have to be judgmental or sarcastic of those who enjoy an adult beverage from time to time. It doesn't make us all drunks and it doesn't mean we can't tolerate our children. In my opinion, moderation in all things is good.

Live and let live, folks.

 

[NancyIL]

If the people that don't drink get on this thread and flame us - it makes you wonder what their point is? Why get on this thread at all if you don't drink? The topic is obviously not a concern for them so why? Maybe hazing people makes them feel better, but quite frankly we are celebrating tonight and I am reading this while our prime rib cooks with a cherry limeade martini! and now I am not headed to an AA meeting tomorrow!

I don't drink alcohol, so DCL's current policy doesn't benefit me, and their proposed change makes no difference to me. I just find it funny that so many are upset about the possibility that the amount and type of alcohol you can bring onboard might be limited. You'd think you guys had the DTs and you need your fix!

 

[LadyDre]

. And then when something changes, rules are put in place, policies are enforced, make sure you whine and moan and complain so Disney will change things back.

I wonder if people do it at Universal or Sea World?

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