Add-on Questions

[TXdeVille]

So I figured I would wait a while before giving in to add-on-itis. I get this lovely promo via email and snail mail that is SOOOOO enticing. My only issue is that I already own at AKV, if I added on, I would like to add on at a different resort.

I have since found out that if you add on, say, 100 points at another resort to my already existing 200 points at AKV then when I want to make ressies at 11 months I can ONLY use 200 at AKV or 100 at add-on resort. I don't get to book with 300 points at either home resort. Is this correct??

Secondly, how does a person get to add-on at other resorts?

And, finally, is it easier to will two separate contracts to two children or would one contract with add-ons be just as easy? (Incidentally it may sound like a stupid question as I would think two separate contracts would be better but I do realize I will not live forever even though I will be mid-70's when contract expires)

Thanks so much for all the help!

 

[disneynutz]

So I figured I would wait a while before giving in to add-on-itis. I get this lovely promo via email and snail mail that is SOOOOO enticing. My only issue is that I already own at AKV, if I added on, I would like to add on at a different resort.

I have since found out that if you add on, say, 100 points at another resort to my already existing 200 points at AKV then when I want to make ressies at 11 months I can ONLY use 200 at AKV or 100 at add-on resort. I don't get to book with 300 points at either home resort. Is this correct??

Secondly, how does a person get to add-on at other resorts?

And, finally, is it easier to will two separate contracts to two children or would one contract with add-ons be just as easy? (Incidentally it may sound like a stupid question as I would think two separate contracts would be better but I do realize I will not live forever even though I will be mid-70's when contract expires)

Thanks so much for all the help!

That is correct, the points are separate at 11 months but can be combined at 7 months.

You can buy an additional contract with the same UY through a reseller or through DVD.

Two separate contracts would be easier to pass on, if you really think that they will want them.

 

[XGrumpy1]

To add on at another resort you can just call your guide. Some of the resorts will have points for you right away. Others (BCV especially) you generally are put on a wait list for.

It is generally cheaper to add on by resale, but you have to wait for ROFR and pay closing costs. You also have to be careful of contracts that have been stripped of all their points.

It can be a hard decision.

 

[TXdeVille]

That is correct, the points are separate at 11 months but can be combined at 7 months.

You can buy an additional contract with the same UY through a reseller or through DVD.

Two separate contracts would be easier to pass on, if you really think that they will want them.

I read something yesterday that says that you can't have two separate contracts under one name/owner if you already have a contract. Everything is considered an add-on. Is this not correct?

 

[disneynutz]

I read something yesterday that says that you can't have two separate contracts under one name/owner if you already have a contract. Everything is considered an add-on. Is this not correct?

Not correct. With each UY you will have a master contract and each additional contract will be a sub contract. All names on the contracts need to be listed the same. This will be one DVC Membership number.

If you add a different UY, that will be a new master and a separate DVC Membership number.

 

[TXdeVille]

Not correct. With each UY you will have a master contract and each additional contract will be a sub contract. All names on the contracts need to be listed the same. This will be one DVC Membership number.

If you add a different UY, that will be a new master and a separate DVC Membership number.

Gotcha! I can choose to have a different UY, right? Or have it all together.

Are all resorts available to add-on at? Wait list or not....I might consider a VWL add-on just to be able to be there during Christmas. But BCV and BWV are very enticing....near 2 of our favorite parks. Beach Club has regular hotel rooms too right? Not just DVC?

 

[chalee94]

And, finally, is it easier to will two separate contracts to two children or would one contract with add-ons be just as easy?

just to be clear:

two separate contracts allow you to deed one contract in your name shared with one adult child and the other contract in your name shared with the other child.

as stated, a master contract with an add-on will need to be deeded in the same name(s). however, if the contract is in your name - and you have a 100 pt master contract with a 100 pt add-on - you can still will the master contract to one child and will the add-on to the other child. very easy.

Gotcha! I can choose to have a different UY, right? Or have it all together.

Are all resorts available to add-on at? Wait list or not....I might consider a VWL add-on just to be able to be there during Christmas. But BCV and BWV are very enticing....near 2 of our favorite parks. Beach Club has regular hotel rooms too right? Not just DVC?

you can have contracts with different UY months, but it makes things more complicated. as already stated, to buy a contract with a different UY month directly from disney, you would need to buy a new master contract.

all resorts are available to add-on. if you want vwl or bcv, you can get an add-on there (but, depending on whether they have pts with your same UY month, you may have to waitlist).

VWL, BCV and BWV are all attached to regular hotels, but regular hotel rooms at those resorts may NOT be booked with pts. you would have to make a cash reservation through CRO.

 

[Chuck S]

as stated, a master contract with an add-on will need to be deeded in the same name(s). however, if the contract is in your name - and you have a 100 pt master contract with a 100 pt add-on - you can still will the master contract to one child and will the add-on to the other child. very easy.

Absolutely correct. While your master contract and add-on are combined under one membership number for your convenience, and the convenience of Member Services/Accounting, they are still legally separate contracts and can be willed or sold separately. It will simply mean that DVC will create a separate membership at that time.

 

[drusba]

As to your "will" question, and as it relates to add-ons:

1. If you have a contract, Disney will sell you add-ons only for the same use year as that contract. To get a different use year, you need to (a) request it, and (b) purchase at least the minimum number of points that a new member buys (currently 100 at AKV under a temporary promotion although usually 160).

2. Add-ons are done in the same names as the original contract. You can add on at a different resort but 11 month window applies separately to points at each resort -- you cannot mix them at 11 months to reserve at one resort. As to why that is consider the following hypothetical: suppose BCV, a small resort was the most popular DVC resort and everybody who owned at SSR, the largest resort, wanted it. If you could mix points at 11 months out, everyone at SSR who has 160 points or more, as an original owner there, would each buy a 25 point add-on at BCV and then be able to use those BCV points plus all their SSR points at BCV 11 months out. Effect: all the true BCV owners would effectively lose their 11 month window advantage.

3. Though an add-on in the same use year combines with your original contract for use and banking purposes, it is still a separate contract and separate interest via a separate deed.

4. You can will, give away, or sell any separate contract. Now assume you have an original 100 point contract at AKV and you purchase an add-on at AKV (or any other resort) of 75 points, get same use year, and it is attached to original contract for accounting and use purposes. It is still a separate contract for the purpose of willing, giving away or selling. Thus, you can will the original 100 point contract to one child and the other 75 point contract to the a second child.

 

[DeeCee735]

is it easier to will two separate contracts to two children or would one contract with add-ons be just as easy? (Incidentally it may sound like a stupid question as I would think two separate contracts would be better but I do realize I will not live forever even though I will be mid-70's when contract expires)

Thanks so much for all the help!

Yes, it's easier to will two separate contracts - wish I knew that the first time around, but with this second add on I did break it down to two separate contracts.

Good luck with your decision!

 

[Chuck S]

It really doesn't matter if they are two separate contracts, or a master contract and add-ons. Just remember that no one contract can be split for instance a 200 point contract can not be split into 2-100 pont contracts.

For a master and add-ons you simply need to specify which contract and subsontracts go to which individual.

For instance,
Master contract 122345.0
Add-on one 122345.1
Add-on two 122345.2

The disadvantage to YOU to having completely separate cotracts is that you can not combine points from two contracts for any one night, you'd be using your annual transfer option. It would be two totally separate memberships.

 

[jerseygal]

One I believe is the "add on"....

Here is my question regarding incentives...

Are 100 point "add ons" at AKV Kidani given $500 Disney Dollars if I have a Disney Visa?

Seems that the original 100 point contract, I'm getting a $500 referral bonus from an existing member..

The second 100 point contract is not showing $500 Disney Reward Dollars????????????????????????

I thought I read on here that Disney is now offering $500 Reward Dollars for 100 point contracts if you have a Disney Visa from spring, 08????????????????????

Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TXdeVille]

It really doesn't matter if they are two separate contracts, or a master contract and add-ons. Just remember that no one contract can be split for instance a 200 point contract can not be split into 2-100 pont contracts.

For a master and add-ons you simply need to specify which contract and subsontracts go to which individual.

For instance,
Master contract 122345.0
Add-on one 122345.1
Add-on two 122345.2

The disadvantage to YOU to having completely separate cotracts is that you can not combine points from two contracts for any one night, you'd be using your annual transfer option. It would be two totally separate memberships.

That's something I hadn't thought of. Suppose I made a ressie for 5 nights somewhere and I had the points for 4 full nights on one contract but am short points for the 5th night...I would have to borrow from the next UY OR bank those points and use the other contract? Never crossed my mind....

 

[disneynutz]

That's something I hadn't thought of. Suppose I made a ressie for 5 nights somewhere and I had the points for 4 full nights on one contract but am short points for the 5th night...I would have to borrow from the next UY OR bank those points and use the other contract? Never crossed my mind....

Or book the 5th night with points from the other contract.

 

[jerseygal]

you choose to sell down the road 1 of the contracts, 100 points..., in my opinion, it might be easier to sell 100 points than try to sell 200 points at once. Gives you flexibility for re-sale..

If you have a master of 100 and an add on of 100 with same use yr and same home resort, you get 200 points for use yr..you would get 200 points per useyear in the first scenario if you purchased 1 200 point contract as well...

If you have 2 children, down the road, you may wish to transfer 100 to one child and 100 to the other child.

 

[Chuck S]

Or book the 5th night with points from the other contract.

Which could be a disavantage, given that you can now book up to 7 days from your arrival date, as you'd have to wait for the second booking window to open to use points from a separate contract.

 

[DeeCee735]

I'm just about positive that this is not true. I have two separate add on's to AKV, each 25 point contracts for a total of 50. They are .004 & .005 to my original BWV contract. When I call MS to book a stay at AKV and ask them to go over the points, they mention them, and use them as "50" points. It was never once mentioned to me by my guide (and I've got Judy Kaufman, I'm sure she'd know this quite well), or by MS, that add on's that don't cover a night need a transfer from another deed/ad on. I have one membership number for all 4 of my contracts, the original and the three add on's I've done.

 

[Chuck S]

I'm just about positive that this is not true. I have two separate add on's to AKV, each 25 point contracts for a total of 50. They are .004 & .005 to my original BWV contract. When I call MS to book a stay at AKV and ask them to go over the points, they mention them, and use them as "50" points. It was never once mentioned to me by my guide (and I've got Judy Kaufman, I'm sure she'd know this quite well), or by MS, that add on's that don't cover a night need a transfer from another deed/ad on. I have one membership number for all 4 of my contracts, the original and the three add on's I've done.

The original question in this thread was about getting two separate memberships, with a different membership number, not a contract and an add-on. Master contracts and add-ons DO function as a single contract.

Separate membership numbers do not.

Which could be a disavantage, given that you can now book up to 7 days from your arrival date, as you'd have to wait for the second booking window to open to use points from a separate contract.