Absolutely unacceptable

[Maggie'sMom]

How would you get from a monorail resort to Epcot if the MK monorail is closed, if not by monorail? (other than to drive or take the bus).

People staying at the Poly have it the easiest. It's a short walk to the TTC, then get the Epcot monorail.

I'm assuming the CR will have a bus running from their resort. The other option would be to walk to the MK and they should have a bus running to Epcot from there.

The GF people will have to have bus transportation to Epcot.

 

[Karl66]

Does it really affect (and who ever turned impact into a verb, anyway) anyone as severely as this poster claims? Is there any guest who intends to stay at a Magic Kingdom-area resort and JUST ride the monorail loop around Seven Seas Lagoon for six and a half hours a day, every day, their entire stay?

It would be different if one were sleeping on the monorail. Then I could see expecting a discount on the rate. But the monorail ISN'T the resort.

Not to do off topic here, but impact is indeed a verb. It can also be used as a noun.

impact

verb (used with object)
6. to drive or press closely or firmly into something; pack in.
7. to fill up; congest; throng: A vast crowd impacted St. Peter's Square.
8. to collide with; strike forcefully: a rocket designed to impact the planet Mars.
9. to have an impact or effect on; influence; alter: The decision may impact your whole career. The auto industry will be impacted by the new labor agreements.

 

[Rip]

Does it really affect (and who ever turned impact into a verb, anyway) anyone as severely as this poster claims? Is there any guest who intends to stay at a Magic Kingdom-area resort and JUST ride the monorail loop around Seven Seas Lagoon for six and a half hours a day, every day, their entire stay?

It would be different if one were sleeping on the monorail. Then I could see expecting a discount on the rate. But the monorail ISN'T the resort.

When my son was an infant and we took our first family vacation in 12 years, we specifically booked the Poly and paid the extra price for the advertised convenience of using the monorail. In addition, we specifically planned on my wife and my son using it during the times currently being discussed because that is when he would take his naps, and dealing with busses and/or boats wasn't nearly as convenient for her by herself, and my daughter an I planned on staying in the parks while they slept. We also planned on going to the Magic Kingdom about 60-70% of the time we were there, because that was what the kids wanted to do at the time (Epcot is our favorite now).

I realize that you love to attempt to browbeat everyone that disagrees with your opinion, but the fact remains that there are those who are effected negatively based on what their own personal preferences/reasons/plans/expectations, etc. and the degree to which they are negatively effected is different for everyone.

So, comparing the increased methods of transportation (boats, busses) is, to me, like comparing my sportscar to a minivan. Yes, they are both means of transportation, but not at all "apples to apples", and really, no one is suggesting that 100% of the reason, and 100% of the price they are willing to pay is due to monorail access. It's always those without a logical counter that resort to hyperbole and straw men arguments.

The fact is that Disney charges more for those resorts in part due to the convenience of using the monorail to and from MK. This is in part why WL and FW aren't as expensive. Further, Disney knew of this in advance and from what I'm reading still hasn't informed their guests. Of course, the reason is that they also know that it will decrease bookings for two of their most expensive resorts, and they'd rather wee-wee a few people off than do that. They likely already have spoken with various CMs in management on what to offer disgruntled guests, and whatever it is the bean counters have already determined it will cost Disney less than actually informing said guests in enough time for them to modify their housing arrangements if they so chose.

It's your opinion that it isn't a big deal. Great, for you it isn't. For me, it would have completely changed almost every planned aspect of our vacation, and it would have been a big deal. You're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't pay for my vacation.

I'm sure if Mickey clubbed a baby seal on national TV there would be a significant number of you folks that would attempt to stifle any opinion that it was anything less than super-cala-fraga-listic-expi-ala-do-cious. The rest of us would have a different opinion.

 

[Samar]

Not sure if this point has been touched on (and I don't have time to read through all these replies at the moment ) but it's not like it will be closed for that whole block of time. Yes, it's a smidge inconvenient but this is a slower season for Disney and I'm sure they'd rather do it before Spring break and summer crowds make it even more crowded.

By all means, write out a complaint but I completely agree with the poster who said that the monorail is NOT the resort. Enjoy the Poly because it's THE Poly! I hope that when you need the monorail during those hours it's operational but if not, there are other methods to get back to the hotel in one piece

 

[eliza61]

Does it really affect (and who ever turned impact into a verb, anyway) anyone as severely as this poster claims? Is there any guest who intends to stay at a Magic Kingdom-area resort and JUST ride the monorail loop around Seven Seas Lagoon for six and a half hours a day, every day, their entire stay?

It would be different if one were sleeping on the monorail. Then I could see expecting a discount on the rate. But the monorail ISN'T the resort.

So as usual this is just how my pea brain works. this is only my opinion.

I view my vacations sort of like a bike wheel with spokes in it. A great vacation is made up of many, many different parts. My choice of resorts is one of those parts.

I pick my resorts on a whole bunch of different things depending on whats important to me at the time.
Bed size
View
Locality
Transportation
Amenities (pools, extra activities, restuarants)

I have decided on resorts based on one factor (quick service or bed size) over the others. I have picked my resorts (BC) on the ability to walk to Epcot.

Now for me a great vacation is when all my "parts" flow together, my meals are great, resorts are great, customer service is great.

So yes Kay for me if one part isn't "together", that has a detrimental effect on my vacation. If I'm having meal after meal that's lousy that affects my vacation. If I was looking forward to hoping on the monorail and then I find out it's going to be down 90% of my time, yes that has a detrimental effect on my vacation. If I hate buses (which I do) and now I'm forced to ride the bus all week, yes that is a buzz kill.

Does it ruin my vacation? no rarely do I let much ruin my vacation, even bad weather. Does it dimish my enjoyment? Yes, it does. Will it cause me to write a not so glowing review and send an email to disney? You betcha.

I know tons of folks who have picked the Contemporary simply because the monorail runs through it and they think that is cool.

If I pick the Beach club specifically because of the ability to walk to Epcot, I don't care how nice it is, I picked it because I wanted to be able to walk from world showcase to my resort, so yeah I'm p.oed if I get there and I find out there is construction on the gates so now I have to take a bus to the front of the park.
And I totally admit, I'm on the phone asking to be moved.

 

[heyitsmejosh]

i dont get why people are so upset, disney needs to do construction its being done at a not so busy time of the day.. you understand those things can happen before you book your trip, its not ideal but its just something that people need to deal with or just not go. when you have a park thats open 365 days a year these are things that happen.

 

[KellyNY]

The fact is that Disney charges more for those resorts in part due to the convenience of using the monorail to and from MK. This is in part why WL and FW aren't as expensive.

I am not quiet sure if this is the actual/only reason. If I am correct, AKL and FW have smaller rooms. They fit 4 people, while CR, Poly and GF fit 5( most of the rooms at least).

 

[TLSnell1981]

Who knows, but THIS isn't permanent. They're repairing the monorail. They aren't going to spend $$$ to fix it and then dismantle the dang thing.

Disney doesn't "care" because people still show up and fill rooms. Why SHOULD THEY CARE? If you (the general you) are still gonna show up, why should they do more than they're doing? That upset about it..GO ELSEWHERE and vote with your wallet.

The original closure was due to repairs, at least, that's what Disney released. Disney's cutting payroll by reducing services..and NexGen will enable Disney to further cut jobs. I know, efficiency and the bottomline...but I hate seeing more jobs disappear.
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Supposedly, price hikes, not more guests, have kept profits high. I'm past my breaking point with WDW, but maybe, I'm the only one

 

[akclayton]

The monorail is nice but it's not everything. IMO.. I enjoy taking the boats over to MK. You don't just have to use the bus. When you go to EPCOT, if you are staying at Poly, walk over to TT and take the monorail to EPCOT. The less bus riding you have to do, the better it is. The boats are kid friendly and they will enjoy riding on them. They can't overcrowd the boat so you don't have to worry about being uncomfortable on them.
Hope you find a happy solution and don't let it ruin your trip.

 

[Dacky619]

I wonder how long this thread would have been if the title were "Disappointed" instead of "Absolutely unacceptable"...

 

[TLSnell1981]

i dont get why people are so upset, disney needs to do construction its being done at a not so busy time of the day.. you understand those things can happen before you book your trip, its not ideal but its just something that people need to deal with or just not go. when you have a park thats open 365 days a year these are things that happen.

WDW's becoming one big hard hat area. It's really gotten ridiculous. Booking, over the next couple of years, will be a crap shoot. Disney isn't giving notice of closures, they pop up a few days or weeks, before your trip...after rooms, plane reservations, and hard ticket parties, are bought and paid for. Kind of low down...

 

[Rip]

I am not quiet sure if this is the actual/only reason. If I am correct, AKL and FW have smaller rooms. They fit 4 people, while CR, Poly and GF fit 5( most of the rooms at least).

Oh you're correct with respect to WL and FW (I've never stayed at AKL), but I never said it was the only reason. I said "in part". FWIW, GF is the most expensive resort for several reasons, but each and every time I've ever priced out Poly, it was always more expensive than anywhere other than GF (and twice it was more than GF, believe it or not).

 

[LittleMissMagic]

Oh you're correct with respect to WL and FW (I've never stayed at AKL), but I never said it was the only reason. I said "in part". FWIW, GF is the most expensive resort for several reasons, but each and every time I've ever priced out Poly, it was always more expensive than anywhere other than GF (and twice it was more than GF, believe it or not).

The Poly and Contemporary (main tower - Bay Lake View) are frequently more expensive (standard rooms) than the Grand Floridian, which is the nicest resort on property.

 

[Jennasis]

The original closure was due to repairs, at least, that's what Disney released. Disney's cutting payroll by reducing services..and NexGen will enable Disney to further cut jobs. I know, efficiency and the bottomline...but I hate seeing more jobs disappear.
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Supposedly, price hikes, not more guests, have kept profits high. I'm past my breaking point with WDW, but maybe, I'm the only one

Based on the profits they're posting, you may well be.

 

[aLLpInK]

I imagine because they need the sun to see what they're doing.

 

[kaytieeldr]

When my son was an infant and we took our first family vacation in 12 years, we specifically booked the Poly and paid the extra price for the advertised convenience of using the monorail. In addition, we specifically planned on my wife and my son using it during the times currently being discussed because that is when he would take his naps, and dealing with busses and/or boats wasn't nearly as convenient for her by herself, and my daughter an I planned on staying in the parks while they slept. We also planned on going to the Magic Kingdom about 60-70% of the time we were there, because that was what the kids wanted to do at the time (Epcot is our favorite now).

Couple of very serious and genuine questions: First, what was it about the boats between the MK and the Poly that made them not nearly as convenient as the monorail? And second, of the 60%-70% of the time you spent going to the Magic Kingdom, how much of that was spent in transit?

I realize that you love to attempt to browbeat everyone that disagrees with your opinion, but the fact remains that there are those who are effected negatively based on what their own personal preferences/reasons/plans/expectations, etc. and the degree to which they are negatively effected is different for everyone.

Wow. Browbeat? And only when we're talking about my statements is it necessary to italicize the word opinion? Why do you find it necessary to imply my opinion is something other than that?

So, comparing the increased methods of transportation (boats, busses) is, to me, like comparing my sportscar to a minivan. Yes, they are both means of transportation, but not at all "apples to apples", and really, no one is suggesting that 100% of the reason, and 100% of the price they are willing to pay is due to monorail access. It's always those without a logical counter that resort to hyperbole and straw men arguments.

I'm not sure we're reading the same thread. The posters who are advising guests demand compensation are doing exactly that.

The fact is that Disney charges more for those resorts in part due to the convenience of using the monorail to and from MK. This is in part why WL and FW aren't as expensive.

More exactly, it would be a combination of the proximity to the Magic Kingdom combined with multiple modes of transportation on a daily basis.

Further, Disney knew of this in advance and from what I'm reading still hasn't informed their guests. Of course, the reason is that they also know that it will decrease bookings for two of their most expensive resorts, and they'd rather wee-wee a few people off than do that. They likely already have spoken with various CMs in management on what to offer disgruntled guests, and whatever it is the bean counters have already determined it will cost Disney less than actually informing said guests in enough time for them to modify their housing arrangements if they so chose.

Really? There's not a better term?

It's your opinion that it isn't a big deal. Great, for you it isn't. For me, it would have completely changed almost every planned aspect of our vacation, and it would have been a big deal. You're entitled to your opinion, but your opinion doesn't pay for my vacation.

Yep. There's another DISer whose vacation is affected, and who wrote to Disney about her displeasure, and who changed almost every aspect of her vacation, and now intends to go and have a blast. My opinion doesn't pay for her vacation, either. She was concerned, even disappointed at first. But she's not claiming this is "absolutely unacceptable", either. Lemonade out of lemons...

I'm sure if Mickey clubbed a baby seal on national TV there would be a significant number of you folks that would attempt to stifle any opinion that it was anything less than super-cala-fraga-listic-expi-ala-do-cious. The rest of us would have a different opinion.

Okay, I can't take it any more. It's one word, not hyphenated, and it's spelled supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

 

[KellyNY]

Okay, I can't take it any more. It's one word, not hyphenated, and it's spelled supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.

Who cares about spelling, be above it. Kaytie, you are strong opponent to pay attention to such not important details.

 

[heyitsmejosh]

WDW's becoming one big hard hat area. It's really gotten ridiculous. Booking, over the next couple of years, will be a crap shoot. Disney isn't giving notice of closures, they pop up a few days or weeks, before your trip...after rooms, plane reservations, and hard ticket parties, are bought and paid for. Kind of low down...

but before you book you know things like that can happen. so when you book you understand that hey situations change, you know rides and attractions might be closed and things like the monorail might be shut down so if you arent willing to accept that fact dont book a trip to disney. you cant run a 365 day park and not have things like this occur. plus its only 7 hours a day it will still be open in the morning and at night.. if really just effects the afternoon.

 

[Fuhnuh]

I'm in the camp that prefers the boats. When they closed the monorail for EMH, we did not enjoy the increase in waiting time for the boats during evening EMH and did not like taking a bus from Epcot. We were spoiled with how easy transportation was. I worry that a quick trip back from MK using the boats during the middle of the day may not be so quick with the monorail traffic using the boat. It wasn't a trip breaker, but it was enough to sway us to a BC/AK split this year instead of our usual BC/Poly split. I would be curious if anyone is finding the boat launches crowed during Monorail closures this month.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I have ignored a LOT of spelling and usage errors in this thread, KellyNY (impact is a different issue, given that it's not the responsibility of any poster).

But "the" magical word? If not for supercalifragilisticexpialidocious, I'd never have had the courage to tackle hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia... or pneumoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis. Or Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchaubunagungamaugg.