9 nights at OKW; 0 days at Disney theme parks

This past May we spent very little time in Disney parks on a 12-day visit. Other than hitting Epcot several days for the Flower Power concerts, we spent most of our park time at Sea World, Busch Gardens, Universal and Kennedy Space Center.

Universal was okay (I don't ride rides due to a bad back), but Sea World and Busch were excellent. The first and only time we did Busch (1987) it was a dump, but it's fully up to our Disney expectations now. KSC and the Astronaut Hall of Fame are musts for me.

What struck us after vacation was that we had only spent a total of 6 hours in MK, which used to be our favorite. While parked on a bench on the Adventureland walkway, waiting for Spectromagic, we saw nary a CM in over an hour. :confused:
 
Originally posted by Werner Weiss
I'm not sure how the advantage belongs to annual passes as soon as you're at more than 8 days.

Some of the benefit comes from savings on room prices. That savings alone can equal the cost of the pass. However, it wouldn't apply to DVCers using points.
 
What a great post! I wonder if it would be possible to organize a DVC member boycott until Disney starts offering us some worthwhile perks?

Say, we choose 6 months out of the year, and DVC members spend time at US/IOA or Sea World, or one of the MANY other Orlando attractions and eateries. It would not do us any good to boycott actually staying in a DVC resort, since we pay maintenance fees regardless if we use our points or not. So how much do you think it would hurt Disney if most of their DVC members did not buy passes, or ate in their restaurants? Do you think it would help Disney open their eyes and SEE that they should take care of THE most loyal Disney customers?

I bet just organizing it and sending out fliers would get Disney's attention! Say if we asked that DVC members not go to the parks or eat in a Disney restaurant from June 1, 2004- Jan. 3, 2005. Peak summer months AND the wonderful Christmas week...hhmmmm, could it work?
 
I don't understand why the disney club card gives AP discounts, but DVc does not? Maybe since The disney club card is ending they can switch that discount over to DVC? ;)
 

Say if we asked that DVC members not go to the parks or eat in a Disney restaurant from June 1, 2004- Jan. 3, 2005. Peak summer months AND the wonderful Christmas week...hhmmmm, could it work?
I sincerely doubt you could get a substantial number of DVC members to do this. I know I would never agree to do it.
 
Originally posted by lenshanem
I don't understand why the disney club card gives AP discounts, but DVc does not? Maybe since The disney club card is ending they can switch that discount over to DVC? ;)
Shan...the Disney Club was discontinued to pave the way for the Disney Visa card. By using the card, members earn a "discount" on park admissions or other Disney related purchases. Obviously, it's not the same but that's how Disney is marketing it.

As Doc said, if the numbers show that DVC owners are not going to the parks as much as they used to, they might offer up a discount. But, IMHO, we won't see that during our DVC contract term unless something dire happens to WDW.
 
Hello, all ... I rarely post to your boards, but have enjoyed reading your comments for months now. Thought I'd weigh in on this because ... well not sure why it pushed my buttons, other than that it becomes increasingly obvious that many DVC members want way more than they are paying for.

When my family bought at BCV it was purely for the savings on lodging - we understand that all the other perks (park discounts, dining discounts, occasional DVC merch. freebies) are not entitlements, only ... well, perks. We also understand that The Walt Disney Company, through its development subsidiary of its attractions subsidiary, made a boatload of money off us and our fellow BCV owners by selling us a resort for much more that it cost to build (and then repossessing it 40 years later.) That's fine with us (and other DVC members, hopefully) as a fair exhange for the value delivered - 70% off the cost of lodging for those 40 years.

My point is this: where do so many of my fellow members get the idea that Disney owes us anything more? Their obligation to us (and ours to them) is clearly spelled out in the contracts between us. While Disney would probably prefer that no one (member or not) every spend a dime off its property, they also know that the total of Orlando's tourism potential is greater than sum of its parts - in other words, Universal, et al., help bring more tourist dollars into the area than they siphon off from Disney coffers. In the long run, they know, we're all going to spend more money with Disney as members than not, and even if we didn't buy a single burger from them again, they've already made a healthy profit from us. You'll recall from your macro-economics courses in college that discounts are a significant cost to be weighed against the increased revenue to be gained - and Disney, as always, has high ROI demands from its revenue producing assets. In short, will you buy 50% more burgers in exchange for a 50% discount? Probably not ...

So on behalf of Disney (to whom my loyalty is perhaps overly high,) spend your money at WDW, don't spend it at WDW ... whatever. But don't delude yourself into thinking we're more important to the mouse than we are - we're customers whose loyalty is rewarded with significant savings already.

(Oh, and on the subject of Florida resident discounts - we own three rental town houses in Central Florida just off Disney property, but because we spend most of the year at home in Virginia, even we don't get residency breaks. Unless you're going to spend six months of the year in your DVC villa AND get a Florida driver's license, you might as well quit beating that drum.)

Thus endeth the lecture (I feel strangely liberated ...)
 



















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