9 Guests Develop Measles at DL in Dec

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Checkout this article:
Between Dec 15th & Dec 20th
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/07/health/disneyland-measles/index.html

 

[tsme]

I heard about that this morning. I believe they said 7 (I think), had not been vaccinated. So I would think if you've had all your vaccines, there shouldn't be a problem or a need to be concerned.

 

[mylittlebuttercup]

This is what happens when people listen to Jenny McCarthy or random websites with no scientific validity!

 

[JanaDee]

This is what happens when people listen to Jenny McCarthy or random websites with no scientific validity!

People from all over the world visit DL and WDW. Many of those people are not vaccinated.

Six people out of the 7 cases were not immunized. Two were too young to be immunized and another one had both recommended doses of the MMR vaccination.

Immunity doesn't last a lifetime.

 

[nugov2]

This is what happens when people listen to Jenny McCarthy or random websites with no scientific validity!

I'm not anti vac(my kids are up to date), but people who say this about people who don't vaccinate are just as ignorant as the people who don't vaccinate because Jenny told them not to. Many people don't vaccinate for other reasons beside a celebrity told them too

 

[Kellykins1218]

It's not really surprising. People visit Disney parks form all over the world. Anytime you have big crowds, there's the chance that someone's going to catch something from somebody.

 

[AlixaLock]

I am not a doctor and would never presume to advise anyone on vaccinations. But the simple fact is that vaccinations rely on herd immunity and if fewer people in a group are vaccinated, then the efficacy of the vaccinations on the whole community will be compromised.

 

[Dis703]

I'm not anti vac(my kids are up to date), but people who say this about people who don't vaccinate are just as ignorant as the people who don't vaccinate because Jenny told them not to. Many people don't vaccinate for other reasons beside a celebrity told them too

This^

And not all outbreaks are even connected to people who are anti-vax. Or necessarily to people who aren't vaxed. Like pp said vaccines wear off, they aren't 100% effective to begin with, they come from other countries with different schedules, too young to get them yet, bad batches of vaccine can occur, etc. I guess it's easier to keep blaming Jenny McCarthy though.

 

[Disfan1968]

I think Buttercup's point was that celebrities like Jenny McCarthy and websites that cite one example of a vaccine "gone wrong" can really do a lot of damage to the collective public consciousness. Vaccination saves/protects WAY more lives than it damages. This is scientific fact. This is not even debatable. Yet, somehow, people still try to debate it. It really is incredible, really... and very sad for kids unlucky enough to have been born into the situation that end up with a life affecting or life ending disease as a result of parental resistance to basic science.

 

[ZephyrHawk]

People just use Jenny McCarthy as the stand in for "anyone who is not a doctor but purports to give medical advice". She deserves every iota of insult she receives because she went on television and attempted to use her celebrity to convince people that her non-medically based, and incorrect, opinions had some sort of medical significance. No, she's not the sole cause of the anti-vaccine misinformation out there, but its understandable why people harp on her.

That being said, any reason that parents use for not vaccinating their children, if it does not come directly from a licensed medical professional who personally knows their children, is not a good one, and should not be respected. I don't care if its something the parents read (what they would call research) on the internet. I don't care if its something they heard at a cocktail party. I don't care if a close friend of theirs had a bad experience vaccinating their kids. I don't care if a religious leader told them that their religious text was against vaccines. I don't care if the parents have personal experience with a child they believe (almost certainly erroneously) to have been harmed by vaccines.

The correct reasons for not vaccinating your child come from: (1) a individual who went to medical school and (2) has a valid and current license to practice medicine in your state, who has (3) personally examined your child in a professional setting and come to the opinion that vaccines are unsafe for them. That is all.

 

[delilah]

I am a physician, and I have seen a lot of unusual immunization schedules circulating about in the media. I generally follow the schedule and guidelines of the CDC in terms of when to immunize people.

The first measles immunization is given at 12 mos of age, so, some weight can be given to the opinion that children who are less than that age should not be in environments where measles might be contracted. Obviously, Disneyland/WDW/California Adventure all fall into that category.

The booster is given at age 4-6.

I have to say that in the 30 years since I started medical school, I have never seen a confirmed case of measles. I have seen rashes that look like measles, and have tested patients for measles.

I remember when I was in college it was first recommended to get the booster. Up until that time, only one dose was given. Gradually, over time the dose has been given at earlier ages. Like any vaccine, there is a chance of vaccine failure, so, those who have been immunized may actually get an outbreak. Usually, with measles, it is an atypical outbreak, with lower fever and less rash.

 

[Bellanota]

Those showing such symptoms shouldn't be bashful about seeing their doctor, because a full body rash is likely to break out next. "If you have symptoms, and believe you may have been exposed, please contact your health care provider," said Dr. Ron Chapman, California's state health office.

Chapman says prevention is the key: "The best way to prevent measles and its spread is to get vaccinated."

Why are we debating this? That last line says it all. And it's from the article at the top

 

[momof2n2]

What a horrible souvenir. I heard about this on the radio this AM. I feel terrible for these folks. I hope they all had adequate support and comfort measures during their illnesses.
And - if nothing else - they are immune to it now.

 

[JennaDeeDooDah]

I'm wondering what symptoms the first person who had measles had when he/she was at Disneyland. I'm hoping that it was very early in the stages and the parents (or the individual if the person was an adult) just thought it was a cold. I'd hate to think that they decided the trip was more important than keeping a sick individual home and away from large crowds.

 

[robinb]

I feel terrible for the people who could not be vaccinated because of age. I feel terrible for the people who could not be vaccinated because of their health. I do not feel terrible for those who were not vaccinated because of choice. That may make me a big old meanie, but there it is. If anything, it makes me angry that kids are now suffering from wrong-headed parental choices.

 

[BugsDaddy]

People just use Jenny McCarthy as the stand in for "anyone who is not a doctor but purports to give medical advice". She deserves every iota of insult she receives because she went on television and attempted to use her celebrity to convince people that her non-medically based, and incorrect, opinions had some sort of medical significance. No, she's not the sole cause of the anti-vaccine misinformation out there, but its understandable why people harp on her. That being said, any reason that parents use for not vaccinating their children, if it does not come directly from a licensed medical professional who personally knows their children, is not a good one, and should not be respected. I don't care if its something the parents read (what they would call research) on the internet. I don't care if its something they heard at a cocktail party. I don't care if a close friend of theirs had a bad experience vaccinating their kids. I don't care if a religious leader told them that their religious text was against vaccines. I don't care if the parents have personal experience with a child they believe (almost certainly erroneously) to have been harmed by vaccines. The correct reasons for not vaccinating your child come from: (1) a individual who went to medical school and (2) has a valid and current license to practice medicine in your state, who has (3) personally examined your child in a professional setting and come to the opinion that vaccines are unsafe for them. That is all.

I think this really says it all.

 

[Candleshoe]

Anti-vaccers are a danger to society at large.

This is just sad.

 

[Cyrano]

Moving to DL board

 

[pednurse]

Measles starts with a fever, followed by cough, runny nose, & reddened eyes. Then comes the rash. Someone with the measles is contagious up to four days before the rash appears to four days after it appears. So they would've been contagious before knowing it was even possibly the measles. It is so contagious that up to 90% of nonimmunized/nonimmune individuals will contract measles if exposed. It is spread by cough. This is why it's so important to immunize those that are old enough & have no medical reason not to be. And why boosters are important as well.

 

[Airship Ariadne]

While I can understand blaming Jenny McCarthy as the most famous of the anti-vaccination mob...the real villain is Mr. Andrew Wakefield...yeah, I emphasize the "Mr." because he had his medical license REVOKED...he is not a physician anymore so shouldn't get to use "Dr."

He is the former physician that developed, ran, and then published the report that first suggested a connection between vaccines and austim...major headlines, published in a major medical journal...and he faked all the data...the study was a fraud, but it would be a decade before the journal retracted it, and he was stripped of his license. By then, people like Jenny McCarthy had bough into the lie, and still do.