4/21/20 podcast

[disneysteve]

Fever checks, like room checks, would be largely for show.

Totally. Heck, bag checks are mostly for show.

But fever? For sure. You just need to take 800mg of Motrin or (and) 1,000mg of Tylenol before you head to the parks to knock any fever down long enough to get through security.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

Totally. Heck, bag checks are mostly for show.

But fever? For sure. You just need to take 800mg of Motrin or (and) 1,000mg of Tylenol before you head to the parks to knock any fever down long enough to get through security.

That's my fear too! We've all seen people say they just gave the kid a Tylenol or took one themselves and went to the park, "flu be demand, this vacation was expensive." Then we are right back here.

 

[disneyland_is_magic]

I started taking my temperature daily when this started as a way to self monitor. I discovered I run pretty low. So I don’t know if I would hit 100.4, even when seriously ill. I imagine others run hot so I wonder about this.

That said, I think there will be shift of social attitude of sickness. We work through sniffles and slight coughs because you are only a “little sick.” Right now people work when sick and almost talk about it like they deserve a gold star for being so dependable rather then a pest for infecting the whole office.

The previous message was in public to use a tissue or cough into your elbow. I think now it will be, if you are coughing, why are you in public to start with?

And no not everyone will shift their personal views but certainly some will and especially company policies.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I started taking my temperature daily when this started as a way to self monitor. I discovered I run pretty low. So I don’t know if I would hit 100.4, even when seriously ill. I imagine others run hot so I wonder about this.

That said, I think there will be shift of social attitude of sickness. We work through sniffles and slight coughs because you are only a “little sick.” Right now people work when sick and almost talk about it like they deserve a gold star for being so dependable rather then a pest for infecting the whole office.

The previous message was in public to use a tissue or cough into your elbow. I think now it will be, if you are coughing, why are you in public to start with?

And no not everyone will shift their personal views but certainly some will and especially company policies.

I do think there will be some shift - and I am sure a lot of people are finding they are able to work from home quite well when perhaps they thought in the past they needed to be in the office to be most efficient (and also felt that their management thought they needed to be in to be most efficicent, etc. .... so I can see that attitude changing places as well)

The challenge is for hourly employees that don't get paid if they don't go in - more work environments need to provide for paid sick leave so that people can not go in to work and still pay their bills

 

[Tonyz]

Indeed. Considering the fact that the handshake was originally used to either a) show you are not going to reach for your sword or b) a test to shake loose any hidden weapons on another person, I could do without that type of initial distrust. A smile and a 'Hello, good to meet you' is more than sufficient for me.

Unless we start going around wearing swords at our hip. I'd go for a cutlass, a classic pirate motif. Maybe a nice hat, too.

Shaking hands or not, I’m still gonna carry around my sword. You never know when you’re gonna need it.

 

[disneysteve]

I think there will be shift of social attitude of sickness. We work through sniffles and slight coughs because you are only a “little sick.” Right now people work when sick and almost talk about it like they deserve a gold star for being so dependable rather then a pest for infecting the whole office.

The previous message was in public to use a tissue or cough into your elbow. I think now it will be, if you are coughing, why are you in public to start with?

I certainly hope it doesn't go in that direction. That would be an awful overreaction. Just because you have a cough doesn't mean you're sick or contagious. Maybe you had the flu and you're better now. It's common for the cough to last 2-4 weeks. Maybe you have seasonal allergies. Maybe you really need to quit smoking. Maybe your acid reflux is acting up. Lots of reasons why you could be coughing and have no good reason to stay home.

The challenge is for hourly employees that don't get paid if they don't go in - more work environments need to provide for paid sick leave so that people can not go in to work and still pay their bills

This. Millions of workers, many of whom we've now come to call "essential", don't have sick days where they work. If they stay home, they earn nothing, and there's a distinct possibility they won't have a job to return to because they're easily replaced. We call them essential but we treat them as expendable.

Those of us with great white collar jobs are privileged. Much of the country doesn't enjoy that same privilege.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

This. Millions of workers, many of whom we've now come to call "essential", don't have sick days where they work. If they stay home, they earn nothing, and there's a distinct possibility they won't have a job to return to because they're easily replaced. We call them essential but we treat them as expendable.

Those of us with great white collar jobs are privileged. Much of the country doesn't enjoy that same privilege.

i think one positive in this situation is news is coming out about a lot of companies on how they treat their employees - and those that are viewed positively will get business long term out of it

One of the grocery stores family chains near us has increased their regular hourly pay by $4 and overtime by $8 and in addition the regular PTO they give them they said that if anyone shows symptoms of Covid-19 they can take up to 2 weeks off paid that doesn't come out of their regular PTO - I know a lot of people that now are feeling loyalty to them to shop there long term.

Hopefully we get a lot of cases like that

 

[V.B.]

I enjoyed the podcast and really am not interested in ABD but I would be selfish if I thought the entire podcast had to interest me every single week. Unrealistic. As far as Pete's rant about protesters... I agree with him 100%. But, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. I'd rather stick to the discussion regarding the parks and resorts opening. I don't think it'll be as long January 2021. I think, as we all do, when the parks opening we are looking at masks, temp checks, limited capacity, limited attractions ... etc. That said, I don't think I would go unless there was some sort of discount, and not a shabby one. But, if I lived there and had an annual pass I would go for sure. The masks are going to be hot and in pain in the **** but again, it's just the way it is. I think the parks will open sometime between 6/1 and 7/1. and if there is a second wave in the fall/winter - we'll be back in the same situation again. I pray that doesn't happen. All that said, we all want Disney to re-open but we have to think about the consequences not only for ourselves but to others and especially those with compromised health issues. AND, lastly I'll say Pete can rant on whatever topic he wants. It's his show.

Agreed. It's a free podcast and I don't have to always agree with what they say. I appreciate the different opinions that the teams bring to the table and if a part of the podcast doesn't interest me, I just wait until it ends, or I fast forward it. As far as ABD and DVD goes, I would rant and rave too if I'd booked a trip that was tens of thousands of dollars and was not getting any answers except to hear 'We're aware of the situation'. I can appreciate that ABD involves a lot of processes with legalities, etc, but people deserve an answer, even if there was an update of the different places they are working with to get refunds themselves, etc. I gathered that Pete was speaking about a LOT of frustration that many have felt and been going through with this (not just him). So, again, it's his show, he can rant all he wants and I know that he is sharing from a lot that he has been hearing from others .

Pete, Kevin, John and the rest of the team. Thanks so much for continuing to put content out there at this time!

 

[WDW_Ding]

a substantial number of guests don’t have data plans they can use in the park

How many is "substantial?"

I have a hard time believing that those that can afford a trip to WDW cannot afford a data plan. Also, all data plans work in the parks.

Shaking hands or not, I’m still gonna carry around my sword. You never know when you’re gonna need it.

Smart!

This. Millions of workers, many of whom we've now come to call "essential", don't have sick days where they work. If they stay home, they earn nothing, and there's a distinct possibility they won't have a job to return to because they're easily replaced. We call them essential but we treat them as expendable.

Imagine if the government cared about the health and financial stability of the people all of the time, instead of throwing some half-hearted attention toward it during times of catastrophe.

 

[disneysteve]

I have a hard time believing that those that can afford a trip to WDW cannot afford a data plan. Also, all data plans work in the parks.

You're assuming that those who go to WDW can afford it. Many can't. They charge it and take years to repay it, if they ever repay it at all.

And some people just don't have smartphones. My mom doesn't. She's got a flip phone. No texting. No data.

 

[fla4fun]

How many is "substantial?"

I have a hard time believing that those that can afford a trip to WDW cannot afford a data plan. Also, all data plans work in the parks.

Many International guests rely on Disney’s WiFi because while they may have data at home, it either won’t work here or there are exorbitant fees for doing so. WDW has a high percentage of International guests, something that might not be an issue at Disneyland. I don’t think, once travel is open for them to get here, that Disney will want any procedures in place that will make it much more difficult for them to enter than domestic guests. They make too much money from their International guests to turn them away.

 

[disneysteve]

WDW has a high percentage of International guests,

The figure I've seen is about 20% so a good chunk of visitors.

 

[V.B.]

Many International guests rely on Disney’s WiFi because while they may have data at home, it either won’t work here or there are exorbitant fees for doing so. WDW has a high percentage of International guests, something that might not be an issue at Disneyland. I don’t think, once travel is open for them to get here, that Disney will want any procedures in place that will make it much more difficult for them to enter than domestic guests. They make too much money from their International guests to turn them away.

I had wondered about that too... With Disney needing to recoup as much money as possible after this, I mean, they are a business and need to make a profit and they are loosing a lot of money right now. International guests will bring more money in, as not only will they be staying for multiple days (as opposed to someone locally who will go to a park for a day), they will fill hotel rooms and not only be wanting to dine, but will probably spend more on merch. But, who knows... Pete's point about them needing to rely on local AP holders could be more important if people aren't ready to get on an airplane and fly yet and they may need to limit how many guests enter.

It will certainly be interesting to see what happens and what procedures they put into place once they open. But most importantly, I think we can all agree that we just want as many people as possible to stay safe and healthy and for things to open up quickly (once it is safe to do so).

 

[SorcererHeidi]

I started taking my temperature daily when this started as a way to self monitor. I discovered I run pretty low. So I don’t know if I would hit 100.4, even when seriously ill. I imagine others run hot so I wonder about this.

That said, I think there will be shift of social attitude of sickness. We work through sniffles and slight coughs because you are only a “little sick.” Right now people work when sick and almost talk about it like they deserve a gold star for being so dependable rather then a pest for infecting the whole office.

The previous message was in public to use a tissue or cough into your elbow. I think now it will be, if you are coughing, why are you in public to start with?

And no not everyone will shift their personal views but certainly some will and especially company policies.

Same! I've discovered my temp is also low - usually somewhere in the 97's - I think it's due to my thyroid disease, which has been accelerating rapidly the last few years, despite daily meds. SO I'm thinking when I do get into the 100's I'm probably pretty daggone sick. I'm like a lot of other folks I know - got really sick for several weeks in December (headache, cough, fatigue, fever), so been wondering if I didn't possibly already have the virus - I thought it was probably bronchitis then.

 

[YesterDark]

Shaking hands or not, I’m still gonna carry around my sword. You never know when you’re gonna need it.

If not a sword, a bat. Anything helps with zombies.

 

[disneysteve]

I started taking my temperature daily when this started as a way to self monitor. I discovered I run pretty low. So I don’t know if I would hit 100.4, even when seriously ill. I imagine others run hot so I wonder about this.

It can also vary significantly depending on how the temperature is being taken. We see it at work all the time. An oral reading may differ by a degree or more from a temporal reading done at the same time. We don't use an ear thermometer but those can also differ. It's a very inexact science. Using it to decide if an employee can work or a guest can enter a theme park is really shaky.

I've seen on the news that some of the places that have started reopening in GA are having customers fill out a questionnaire. I'm sure that's good because nobody would ever lie on that, right?

 

[WDW_Ding]

Many International guests rely on Disney’s WiFi because while they may have data at home, it either won’t work here or there are exorbitant fees for doing so. WDW has a high percentage of International guests, something that might not be an issue at Disneyland. I don’t think, once travel is open for them to get here, that Disney will want any procedures in place that will make it much more difficult for them to enter than domestic guests. They make too much money from their International guests to turn them away.

This is actually a good point that I had not considered.

And some people just don't have smartphones. My mom doesn't. She's got a flip phone. No texting. No data.

Then I'm not sure what your point is, because all the wifi in the world won't help someone with a flip phone. My comment, that you were replying to, concerned WDW upgrading their wifi network.

 

[disneysteve]

Then I'm not sure what your point is, because all the wifi in the world won't help someone with a flip phone. My comment, that you were replying to, concerned WDW upgrading their wifi network.

Sorry. My mistake. Reading and responding to too many things at once.

 

[SorcererHeidi]

If not a sword, a bat. Anything helps with zombies.

Yeah - even my favorite thing - an aluminum saucepan to protect from frozen peas! I MUST be "touched", or I've spent too much time in solo isolation - I LOVE that sound!

 

[mhautz]

Fever checks, like room checks, would be largely for show.

My attitude is that it's for show, but perhaps the most important thing it tells us is one's willingness to take this serious and cooperate. If one is not willing to put up with a couple hurdles to get into the park, then they might not be willing to observe other behavior that is expected in the park, such as social distancing or hand washing/sanitation. By no means perfect, but it will stop some.