2025 Condo Meeting Information - Renting

[VGCgroupie]

Could be…but the result is the same,,,it takes rooms from others to book with points, which I think was part of the plan for this and the AP.

Give owners an option beside renting on the open market when they have extra points.

I think many were shocked because we didn’t think people exchanged that much. But if you consider all the MB points it’s not as shocking.

 

[Cyberc1978]

I'm guess I'm just not sure why they were excited to share with us that they rent out so many points. Yes, they are allowed to and the points come from members trading in for cruises, ABD, etc. but if anything it still seems more like a negative point to me personally.

So you're telling us that on top of all of these fairly obvious commercial rentals being done by members, Disney themselves is also renting out around 20% of all points? (I'm not talking about rooms that were never booked and went into breakage though, that is not competing with members to book popular rooms)

The more renting being done (by anyone, even Disney themselves) increases booking competition because the number of actual owners/members trying to book and use a room will always be less than the number of owners/members looking to use them + all the prospective renters looking at rooms. Ex. 10,000 owners at a resort booking vs 10,000 owners and however many more thousands of renters looking as well.

To preserve member availability and happiness, I would be hopeful that Disney themselves isn't booking popular rooms at 11 months out just to rent or allowing cash renters to book DVC 11 months ahead with DVCs points and compete with owners in the home resort window, but if that is what makes them the most money... then they very well may be doing that.

Was anything else mentioned about their processes other than the percentage that they rent? I would be very curious

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Members: "Hey DVC, we don't like how much of these commercial rentals are out there and it is getting difficult to book popular times with our memberships"

DVC: "Don't worry, we also do a ton of commercial rentals! "

Members:

Have you ever wondered WHY a hard to book room is available at 07.55.00 - 07.59.x am many mornings?

It’s been discussed before and it would not make sense for any member, commercial renters or not to wait until the very last minute to extend a reservation or walk it.

However for a Disney algorithm it would make perfect sense to wait until the very last minute. Members can see the availability during the entire day and night before and possibly think “TOMORROW is my lucky day to get that reservation” only to find out that it’s wasn’t as the availability disappeared a minute or seconds before the 8am window. They might think and accept it’s an owner that just forgot to change their reservation etc.

Furthermore there have been plenty of value studios for rent directly by Disney - so YES they book the hard to get rooms too.

 

[eticketplease]

However for a Disney algorithm it would make perfect sense to wait until the very last minute. Members can see the availability during the entire day and night before and possibly think “TOMORROW is my lucky day to get that reservation” only to find out that it’s wasn’t as the availability disappeared a minute or seconds before the 8am window. They might think and accept it’s an owner that just forgot to change their reservation etc.

Count me in this camp. There has been many times my room is available during the 7 am hour and then I can’t grab it at 8 am on the dot.

 

[Narcoossee11]

For me personally it does not. When I see on FB one person renting out 15 different reservations all within a 60 day period of time for popular dates like OBB or for Food & Wine at Epcot, to me that says Disney is not my main competition for booking rooms.

Edit to add or on websites created just for renting not just FB

THIS is the evil of renters. This done by huge 'members' who only purchased to run a business. They never use the membership for them self, ONLY for a financial business.
These 'members' have 12+ memberships, with thousands of points. This allows them to book any resort, any dates (all holidays), muli day 2-7 day stay.

 

[muppets3d]

Count me in this camp. There has been many times my room is available during the 7 am hour and then I can’t grab it at 8 am on the dot.

And I mean on the dot too. I have always suspected bots, but never suspected DVC is running its own bots!