**2010** Epcot Food & Wine Festival ENDED 11/14. 2011 FESTIVAL 9/30-11/13

OMG, you're right! I think he is 'sniffing' the wine. I thought it was his mouth!

See this is what happens when they don't give us the information we want ... we get critical, very, very critical! :rotfl2::rotfl::rolleyes1

4orm, I like your Little Prince avatar!

Thanks! I just noticed the "wine sniffer" guy! He sure has the nose for it! :rotfl:
 
dizneykid shared this with me a few minutes ago
15th Year Artwork from the Disney Foodblog
I think if I stare at some of those faces too long I might have nightmares, especially after a bluezoo signature dinner.

Agreed. This slew of graphics & merchandise scream cheap & certainly not a signature Disney event. It will be our first time to the event, & am happy to see I will be saving a load of money, because I'm certainly not buying any of that. Guess that's just more for the food!
 
Actually, Nora Carey ran the Festival for five years 2004-2008. I don't know who ran the Festivals before that, although we've been attending since 1998. Mary Ann Hunnel started running the Festival beginning with the 2009 Festival.

Nora was laid off in the big round of layoffs in March 2009, as was John Blazon, who ran wine and beverages for Disney and was the key wine expert for Festivals prior to 2009. He was responsible for the Vertical Tastings, which were superb. Dh and I miss them.

According to Linked In, Nora is now Executive Director of the Bocuse d'Or USA Foundation. John Blazon is now Vice President at Spire Collection, the top tier wines in the Kendall-Jackson group of wine companies.

Although we are all anxious to know the details, I have some sympathy for those running the Festival. It must be a huge job to coordinate and accommodate celebrity appearances, vintner schedules, etc., especially given the limitations on use of Disney restaurants that may be in place now given the popularity of the DDP.

Moreover (and this is pure supposition and opinion as I have no first-hand knowledge), it seems to me that the Festival was looked upon as something of a "loss leader" originally -- that is, an advertising and promotional activity to publicize Epcot, encourage attendance by people who didn't ordinarily visit Disneyworld, promote the international aspects of Epcot, etc.

It seems to me that (again supposition and opinion) especially since Iger took over and even more so with the economic downturn, Disney's willingness to subsidize the Festival has declined substantially. I get the feeling that the Festival now must either make money or at least break even. Hence, the significant price increases for the events, and even the samples at the kiosks, in the last couple of years especially.

Again, I could be wrong, but as a long time Festival observer, that's my opinion.

It is hard to be given corporate instructions to (i) organize and promote a huge Food and Wine Festival, no doubt one of the largest (or possibly the largest) of its kind in the U.S. in terms of the length of the Festival, the number of events and the sheer numbers of people who participate in one way or another and (ii) turn it into a profit center -- or at least make sure it loses no money.

So, I'm as eager as the next person for more details -- especially on the vintners. But, I appreciate the enormity of the tasks facing the organizers. Perhaps they were premature in announcing the booking date. No doubt there is a great deal of scrambling going on at the moment!
 
Moreover (and this is pure supposition and opinion as I have no first-hand knowledge), it seems to me that the Festival was looked upon as something of a "loss leader" originally -- that is, an advertising and promotional activity to publicize Epcot, encourage attendance by people who didn't ordinarily visit Disneyworld, promote the international aspects of Epcot, etc.

It seems to me that (again supposition and opinion) especially since Iger took over and even more so with the economic downturn, Disney's willingness to subsidize the Festival has declined substantially. I get the feeling that the Festival now must either make money or at least break even. Hence, the significant price increases for the events, and even the samples at the kiosks, in the last couple of years especially.

Understanding that they need to bring in a hefty amount of money to pay for the construction of the kiosks and bringing in celebrity hosts...I have a hard time saying that this is not a huge money maker for Disney. The pierogie dish last year was 1 pierogie, 2 thin slices of kielbasa, and a tablespoon of onions. That entire portion maybe cost 60 cents. Yep, CENTS. And they're selling it for $5. So I think F&W is a huge money maker for Disney, and from what I've seen with Disney, when something is a huge hit, they tend to rest on their laurels (think CRT!)

Think about it, how many of us are dying for them to update the website? How many of us aren't going to change our plans because Disney missed a deadline or 3... So to me, it's Disney resting on their laurels. Now next year, I might not be going to the festival (going earlier in the year.) How they handle this Festival, will determine if I go back next year. It's not until people don't show up that Disney makes changes (think PFTS!)

Just my opinion :flower3:
 

Yeah, Onelilspark, you're probably right. With success, Disney tends to rest on its laurels. And, agreed, CRT is not worth the time or money anymore, IMO.

Also, dh was fairly dismissive of my post when I mentioned it to him, saying "come on, they're a huge multibillion corporation -- one of the world's largest, they ought to be able to get their act together".

I think the Festival probably is a moneymaker now. I don't think it was in the earliest years. The Reserve Dinners used to cost something like $85 per person and were absolutely amazing (of course I realize there has been inflation). The Reserve Dinners had a sponsor to carry some of the financial burden presumably because the $85 price wasn't sufficient to cover Disney's costs.

Frankly, the amount charged for the V&A dinner last year could not have covered the costs of that dinner, including unlimited shavings of white truffles with many courses, and truffles shaved on the dessert too. When we got home, an Italian restaurant near us was offering a plate of pasta with a few white truffle shavings for $100. So, I have to assume that dinner was subsidized.

I just think there is a lot less subsidizing going on now than in the early days. And, no doubt the kiosks are profitable. However, one has to calculate a lot of costs into the kiosks. It's not just constructing them. They are hosted by 3-4 people, including chefs. I gather they hire an army of temps to work the kiosks. And, there is lots of behind the scenes cooking going on. Ingredients and supplies must be purchased. People's salaries are expensive. There is also all of the additional bookkeeping and accounting duties associated with running the booths. Nonetheless, $5 probably covers all their costs with a profit in there, too. But, the profit likely would not be as large as one might think.
 
I have to say ewww to those. It took me a minute to realize the guy on the upper right is drinking wine and not holding up his hand as if to politely cover a belch - hahaha!

You're right, that stuff is fairly ugly. I wonder if they'll have the messenger bags made out of last year's banners again? I probably have no chance of getting one as they will sell out immediately and I'm not there until later in October.
 
I wonder if they'll have the messenger bags made out of last year's banners again? I probably have no chance of getting one as they will sell out immediately and I'm not there until later in October.

The ones they had last year sold out within the first two days of the festival. The festival began on Friday and by Sunday they were gone. Apparently cast members were allowed to purchase them before Friday which accounts for some of the sales.

I do not like the chef art. I didn't like last year's, either. That chef looked like Ted Kennedy. This group looks like the whole Senate.
 
The new art work saved me even more cash to spend at the Ditch!:lmao:
 
I think the Festival probably is a moneymaker now.
Frankly, the amount charged for the V&A dinner last year could not have covered the costs of that dinner, including unlimited shavings of white truffles with many courses, and truffles shaved on the dessert too. When we got home, an Italian restaurant near us was offering a plate of pasta with a few white truffle shavings for $100. So, I have to assume that dinner was subsidized.

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Disney wouldn't keep doing it, dinners, kiosks whatever if they weren't moneymakers. They are making plenty!
 
So can I breathe now, or should I continue to hold my breath that it'll be released before the 20th? ;)

Yeah, you can breathe but take deep ones! We already know the special events. They haven't released the deminar particulars and probably won't for awhile. Bummer.
 
Yeah, you can breathe but take deep ones! We already know the special events. They haven't released the deminar particulars and probably won't for awhile. Bummer.

I wish they would so we could figure out what to do.. we usually book PFTS by who was deminar-ed that week.. I know it's not till Aug but hoped we would know!
Thanks for posting this!:)
 
Yeah, you can breathe but take deep ones! We already know the special events. They haven't released the deminar particulars and probably won't for awhile. Bummer.

I wish they'd post the deminars. Mainly so I can figure out if we need to re-arrange any ADRs!
 
dizneykid shared this with me a few minutes ago
15th Year Artwork from the Disney Foodblog
I think if I stare at some of those faces too long I might have nightmares, especially after a bluezoo signature dinner.

Wow. :scared1: I guess we won't be spending much on F&W merchandise this year.

Unless these look significantly better in person we may just spend our entire budget on the actual food & wine at the booths. Hmmm, maybe that's not a bad thing. :3dglasses
 
Interesting to see the more obscure german brews they are now showing in the Brewers Collection...still doesn't compensate for the trio of duds at the new Belgium booth.
And Sam Adams 15th anniversary - Coastal Wheat Light...a light beer??? That's a must skip.
 
I wish they would so we could figure out what to do.. we usually book PFTS by who was deminar-ed that week.. I know it's not till Aug but hoped we would know!
Thanks for posting this!:)
Just making sure you know... tickets go on sale July 20th this year... not in August.
 












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