2 fishy questions

[jann1033]

one what do you do to crop the photo and not lose the fisheye
and
two how do you handle the sunglare since as far as i know you can't use a filter and my lens hood is puny...obviously you can move but that isn't always possible. and then i have to crop and loose a lot of the fishy-ness. the sky has a definite color difference from one side to the other which i am guesssing is somekind of glare if i am anywhere close to the sun on one side or the other which limits the direction i can take a shot for sure
thanks

 

[Gdad]

Does the sun really blow it out that bad? I have found mine to be a very forgiving lens even when taken into direct sunlight.

 

[Geoff_M]

My experience regarding the sun is the same as Gdad's. In fact, you can use it as part of the composition.

 

[jann1033]

what i'm talking about is to the left in the sky in gdad's photo..however, when it's a whole sky, it is more noticable ..i'll post one
notice the left hand sky, i guess i could fix it in photoshop but it annoys me

 

[Groucho]

Actually, I think that the sky really does change color that much - remember than our field of view is closer to 50mm or so as compared to the ~16-17mm that a 180' fisheye gives you. (In 35mm terms, of course.) So we wouldn't notice it as much.

Time of day may matter, too.

Here's one of my shots taken with my Pentax 10-17mm, which I believe has basically the same optics as your Tokina 10-17mm.

Although, it'd be interesting to take the same photo side by side with yours. The Pentax version has their SMC lens coating of course, which is reportedly better than Tokina's (or just about anyone), so the coating may be helping to give a more consistent sky color.

Then again, I do have a few with stronger gradients in the sky... here's one:

Downtown Disney at Disneyland Resort

I do have another that's not online that has the sky noticeably whiter with the sun near the edge - and othes where the sky is fairly consistently blue with the sun at the edge. So it is probably more the sky itself to blame than the lens.

As for cropping, you can't without losing the fisheye. That's why fisheye lenses for film cameras (like the wonderful Zenitar 16mm from Russia) aren't fully fishy on a DSLR (except a full-frame, of course.) Here's the Zenitar on my DSLR, at Epcot:

Fishy, but not as much as the 10-17mm at 10mm. In fact, basically the same as you'd get if you zoom out with your Tokina.

 

[jann1033]

thanks,
I really like the sub shot sun groucho, much better than the white blob i had in mine