16 and Pregnant/Teen Mom Thread - Sad but true...we r hooked!

[frogprincesskc]

I have to admit, I do watch Teen Mom. I don't watch it regularly, but if I'm flipping thru the channels and I see it on, I do normally finish the episode. However last night, I did tune in for the whole show.

Anyone else annoyed that "Dr. Drew" danced around the subject of Farrah and how she treats her mom? I have a very hard time watching Farrah scream at her mom and whine about being entitled to go out and stay out all night because she is still a teenager. WHAT!?! You're a mom now. While that doesn't mean you shouldn't go out or get a break if you have that opportunity, it does mean that your mother is NOT responsible for your daughter everytime you want to go out. You are a teen mom...sacrifice is your new middle name!

Anyone...

I was a teen mom. And although my parents were wonderfull about helping out when they could, they refused to watch my daughter for anything other than me going to school or work. The occasional trip to the grocery store was like heaven if they decided they wanted some time with their granddaughter alone. I enjoy watching the show and seeing the changes that the girls have had to go through, but I agree it is hard to watch this situation.

 

[heatherleigh]

I've been watching this as well, but haven't watched the full finale episode yet (I'm doing that now). My favorite parents are the ones who made the decision to their baby up for adoption, and not just because they made that choice. They have great personalities.

My least favorite is probably Farrah. Does anyone know who the baby daddy is? I hated Amber after I saw the episode where she hit Gary, but now I don't mind her as much. It still irritates me when I watch the re-play of that particular episode though. I forgot to add that Farrah is now dating Pauly D from Jersey Shore.... Kind of interesting.

 

[barkley]

the father of farrah's daughter sophia was killed in a car accident before sophia was born. apparantly the mother of the other teen passenger who was killed along with sophia's father had criminal charges filed against her because alcohol was a factor in the accident, and authorities found video survelance from a store showing her buying vodka for the teens

 

[sunlver]

I dont know why I love this show, but totally look forward to watching it. Funny, I didn't have my first child until 29,so I wasnt a teen mom. I think it is the fact that I have a 15 year old son at home, keeps me watching it.

 

[happygirl]

. I forgot to add that Farrah is now dating Pauly D from Jersey Shore.... Kind of interesting.

She fits in with those kids. I bet she will be on that show as well while they are dating

 

[MizTink]

I forgot to add that Farrah is now dating Pauly D from Jersey Shore.... Kind of interesting.

at least he is older (27 i think). maybe he will be better than the younger guys she has tried so far...

 

[mickeylove2]

I've been watching this as well, but haven't watched the full finale episode yet (I'm doing that now). My favorite parents are the ones who made the decision to their baby up for adoption, and not just because they made that choice. They have great personalities.

My least favorite is probably Farrah. Does anyone know who the baby daddy is? I hated Amber after I saw the episode where she hit Gary, but now I don't mind her as much. It still irritates me when I watch the re-play of that particular episode though. I forgot to add that Farrah is now dating Pauly D from Jersey Shore.... Kind of interesting.

I posted that too yesterday but then last night I was on the internet and Pauly D is denying that he has even met her. So I guess those rumor sites are just printing rumors.

 

[DisneyDayTripper]

While watching the show (while I do not condone the behavior whatsoever and agree that abuse is grotesquely wrong)...I laughed out loud after Amber was talking about the fight she had with Gary and how she hit him..and then out of nowhere Dr. Drew goes into full blown infomercial for teens that are victims of relationship abuse...I don't feel the topic was funny at all, but it was like out of nowhere and the girl was sitting right there. How awkward and dumb could have felt.

I enjoyed watching the show and think that Ryan and Gary are both useless pieces of crap that have no idea what it means to be a man and take care of your responsibilities. Gary was so lazy the entire show and Ryan...don't even get me started, but he needs to man up.

 

[happygirl]

While watching the show (while I do not condone the behavior whatsoever and agree that abuse is grotesquely wrong)...I laughed out loud after Amber was talking about the fight she had with Gary and how she hit him..and then out of nowhere Dr. Drew goes into full blown infomercial for teens that are victims of relationship abuse...I don't feel the topic was funny at all, but it was like out of nowhere and the girl was sitting right there. How awkward and dumb could have felt.

I enjoyed watching the show and think that Ryan and Gary are both useless pieces of crap that have no idea what it means to be a man and take care of your responsibilities. Gary was so lazy the entire show and Ryan...don't even get me started, but he needs to man up.

I don't get that vibe at all about Gary

 

[Gabes_mommy]

I don't get that vibe at all about Gary

I agree. I think Gary is lazy, but I think he is sweet and he really loves his daughter. I also think he really loves Amber which is probably not great for him since I don't think she really loves him. I always got the impression that Amber thinks she's too good for Gary.

Ryan is just a piece of crap though.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

I agree. I think Gary is lazy, but I think he is sweet and he really loves his daughter. I also think he really loves Amber which is probably not great for him since I don't think she really loves him. I always got the impression that Amber thinks she's too good for Gary.

Ryan is just a piece of crap though.

Same here.

 

[brockash]

I don't get that vibe at all about Gary

I think I get what the pp said about Gary, and I tend to agree that he's a pretty lazy person/father. I wouldn't put him in the same category as Ryan, because I think Gary wants things to be good and that he wants to be a good father, but wanting to and actually doing it are two different things. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Amber -I think she's an over dramatic baby, but I don't think Gary is much better. Leah is by far the baby I feel the most scared for, followed by Sophia, however I see a much greater potental in her case.

 

[ZPT1022]

and am i the only one who thinks ryan cheated on maci when he was working out of state? when he got back he was COMPLETELY different, and wouldn't even talk to her (on camera at least) and just dropped his stuff off and left.

Definitely. Even the stuff they showed when he came home and immediately went out with his friends was pretty bad. My husband has had to travel for work and when he comes home he just wants to be home and spending time with me and the kids. He doesn't come home and run right out with his friends for a night of drinking and dirty dancing with other girls. And sure, maybe that was innocent (as innocent as that amount of flirting and whatnot can be), but why would you want that captured on camera for all the world to see. Heck, I think it stands to reason that they probably have family tuning in to watch, would you really want your family to see you making an *** of yourself?

i realize that the adoptive parents of carly really were probably only doing the semi open adoption to make sure that tyler and catelynn didn't back out, but i bet they're really regretting it now. i really don't think they understood the idea of the open adoption, and thought that they would get to see carly all the time, and play with her, but not "raise" her you know? but thats completely not what it is. carly is not their child any more. i hope they realize that eventually.

The two teens said at one point that initially the adoptive parents wanted a traditional closed adoption so I bet they are definitely having second thoughts about it now. But, I've been there where you can't conceive and are just so desperate to have a child, they probably wanted to do whatever they needed to do in order to have that baby in their arms. And I agree that Tyler and Catelynn had a different view of what open adoption would be - almost like they would get to hang out and be the fun aunt and uncle type relationship while the adoptive couple did the child rearing. I think they all will be better off once they find a happy medium between what everyone wants out of this openness.

Ryan is not a good dad, but he is a very good looking teenager. I'm sure he's getting more chicks than he knows what to do with after being on MTV. He doesn't seem very mature, but maybe one day he will wake up.

What is apparent to me, none of those teenagers should have kept those babies. They would all have been better off in adoptive homes.

I will agree with you on Ryan- I think he is enjoying his bit of fame and unfortunately I think that there are enough stupid girls out there to just recognize him as some guy from MTV and be all over that "fame" without any regard for how his character has come off

I will have to disagree with you though that all of those kids would be better off in adoptive homes. I think Farrah's baby would definitely have been better off with an adoptive family who was ready to make the sacrifices necessary to be parents and to give a baby the care, love and attention it deserves, but I do think the grandmother, despite all her flaws, tries hard to give that baby a decent life. I think the great grandmother who is watching her also, gives her more stability than Farrah does.

I think Amber is a hot mess and could really use some parenting classes and direction and to stop just sticking her in the playpen or crib with a bottle all the time.

Maci, on the other hand, is a mommy. You can tell that she loves that baby and drops everything to do what he needs from her. She puts herself last more often than not to do what he needs. He is well taken care of and well loved. Of all those babies, he's the one I worry about the least. Now if only his piece of crap "dad" would step up

I completely agree - I know Catelynn and Tyler were really wanting to know their last name and where they live, and it got me thinking they would just show up at their house or something. I think they got a lot of "limelight" from this show and maybe now feel more pressure to want back in to Carly's life when in actuality things would have been a lot different (harder) had they kept her in that awful situation they have as a homelife, thank goodness for Tyler's mom, at least she seems halfway normal.

I wondered too if they wanted the last name so they could just show up whenever. Honestly, if I were the adoptive family, I would be less worried about the two teens than their dysfunctional whacked out families.

 

[DisneyDayTripper]

Of course all of this is forgetting that they can edit the show to appear almost anyway they want, but from what was shown on television it seemed as if Gary was a little more self-centered than he should have been. They were both working on going to school and a lot of the time that Amber would try to study she would be stuck with the baby instead of him helping her out and taking turns. Also there was a time where she was almost late for her first day on her job because Gary took like 20 minutes to get dressed to come out to the car to help get the baby out of the car...I mean really...he should have known she would be there at that time and been ready to help...or worse case scenario...thrown on sweats and a shirt and taken 30 seconds to get ready instead of 20 minutes...it isn't like the way he dresses is going picked for the next Bachelor or anything.

I also agree that Ryan is completely different than Gary and they're not even in the same category. Ryan is just a total ****** who needs to get the crap beat out of him for half the stuff he says to Maci. Maci definitely deserves way better than some guy who has no problem dropping every word in the "inappropriate language book" in front of his baby. I hope that any girl that ever considers dating him sees that show and sees how he treats the mother of his baby. I don't care how bad you're treated...there's just some things you don't say to a lady.

I definitely feel for Catelynn and Tyler..I think they have a lot of stuff to work through in their relationship, but from what was shown on TV they are heading in the right direction...my wife and I were confused for awhile...but was it ever said that their parents were dating? We started watching it a few weeks into it and were slightly confused and then put 2 and 2 together and were like ....ummm weird lol

 

[MizTink]

that part about gary not coming out to get the baby from the car for 20 minutes......why didn't amber just take her in if she was in such a hurry? i know he probably screwed up by running late. but she just expects for him to jump at everything the says. kwim? annoying......

about Catelynn and Tyler's parents.....i saw a little bit of the original 16 and pregnant and they said that her mom and his dad started dating after catelynn and tyler were together.

 

[ZPT1022]

I also agree that Ryan is completely different than Gary and they're not even in the same category. Ryan is just a total ****** who needs to get the crap beat out of him for half the stuff he says to Maci. Maci definitely deserves way better than some guy who has no problem dropping every word in the "inappropriate language book" in front of his baby. I hope that any girl that ever considers dating him sees that show and sees how he treats the mother of his baby. I don't care how bad you're treated...there's just some things you don't say to a lady.

To me, it's less about the language and more about his attitude and the sentiments behind what he says

The comment about "What, you quit all your classes? Why, because you're *fricking* lazy?!" really burned me. He honestly has no clue as it seems he has never provided any real care for his own child. When they showed her trying to do her online classes while taking care of the baby, I felt frustrated FOR her. I can't fault her for putting aside her pursuits to take care of the baby, as a mom I know that's just how it goes sometimes (most of the time ), but with Ryan not working at the time, I don't understand why he couldn't take the baby and entertain him for a few hours so she could get her work done. Heck, she's working to better herself and in turn, their little family. You would think he would be on board with that.

 

[stahshee]

:i

To me, it's less about the language and more about his attitude and the sentiments behind what he says

The comment about "What, you quit all your classes? Why, because you're *fricking* lazy?!" really burned me. He honestly has no clue as it seems he has never provided any real care for his own child. When they showed her trying to do her online classes while taking care of the baby, I felt frustrated FOR her. I can't fault her for putting aside her pursuits to take care of the baby, as a mom I know that's just how it goes sometimes (most of the time ), but with Ryan not working at the time, I don't understand why he couldn't take the baby and entertain him for a few hours so she could get her work done. Heck, she's working to better herself and in turn, their little family. You would think he would be on board with that.

I agree Ryan should have been watching the baby. so macy could go to school and better there future He is a enis
and he is very selfish but cute.. anyway Gary is also in school and works, so I think that he is just takeing to much on.. He is lazy...... come on that house is a mess they are both doing to much at the same time... I do think he really loves them both

 

[simba20]

To me, it's less about the language and more about his attitude and the sentiments behind what he says

The comment about "What, you quit all your classes? Why, because you're *fricking* lazy?!" really burned me. He honestly has no clue as it seems he has never provided any real care for his own child. When they showed her trying to do her online classes while taking care of the baby, I felt frustrated FOR her. I can't fault her for putting aside her pursuits to take care of the baby, as a mom I know that's just how it goes sometimes (most of the time ), but with Ryan not working at the time, I don't understand why he couldn't take the baby and entertain him for a few hours so she could get her work done. Heck, she's working to better herself and in turn, their little family. You would think he would be on board with that.

As an older mom, who has a college degree and is currently workign on her Master's online,,,,that statement from him also pi$$ed me off. he really has NO IDEA. I love these guys who say "well all you do is take care of the baby...." as if that is just the most easiest, laxidasical, sitting on the couch and relaxing thing to do.

When my daughter was 2 months old, I was crying, because I just wanted to clean my house so bad. Everyone kept giving me advice like, "enjoy her, they grow up so fast" My house had not been cleaned since before she was born, because I was takign care of her and enjoying her, but yet she'd cry non-stop if I put her down to shower, pee, wash dishes, vacuum...so getting those things done was rare. Couldn;t fathom pickign up a book to read/study.

I started grad school when she was 6 months, justtaking one class. Then over the summer I told my husband that I was putting her in daycare part-time, 3 days a week, so I could concentrate on schoolwork.

I really wanted ot kick Ryan at that moment. Bet that when he does have Bentley, his parents are doing the watching.

 

[MyManGoofy!]

I didn't watch every single episode - can someone tell me exactly how often Farrah went out? Or is the issue that she went out at all? Because if that is the case - I am going to take up for her a bit here. I ended up as a single mom in my early 20's - and I got tons of flack for ever wanting to to go out to see a movie or see my friends. Even though weeks could go by were I stayed home with my son. It got to the point that people/family were making me feel so horrible about ever wanting to spend time without my son, that I stopped trying. I never did meet a partner, most of the friends I had drifted away and my whole world was my son. He has now left and gone off to college and here I am - alone.

On the other hand - my niece and her husband just had a baby. Oddly enough, the whole family is all about making sure there are enough of us handy to babysit so that they can be sure to still have time alone together.

So - are there different rules for single moms than the married ones? Especially if the mom is younger than the norm?

 

[ZPT1022]

As an older mom, who has a college degree and is currently workign on her Master's online,,,,that statement from him also pi$$ed me off. he really has NO IDEA. I love these guys who say "well all you do is take care of the baby...." as if that is just the most easiest, laxidasical, sitting on the couch and relaxing thing to do.

When my daughter was 2 months old, I was crying, because I just wanted to clean my house so bad. Everyone kept giving me advice like, "enjoy her, they grow up so fast" My house had not been cleaned since before she was born, because I was takign care of her and enjoying her, but yet she'd cry non-stop if I put her down to shower, pee, wash dishes, vacuum...so getting those things done was rare. Couldn;t fathom pickign up a book to read/study.

I started grad school when she was 6 months, justtaking one class. Then over the summer I told my husband that I was putting her in daycare part-time, 3 days a week, so I could concentrate on schoolwork.

I really wanted ot kick Ryan at that moment. Bet that when he does have Bentley, his parents are doing the watching.

I totally get the vibe that when the baby is over with him it's really his parents doing the childcare. I guess in a way that's good for the baby to be with people who really care for him and want to be around him, as I fully believe that babies and kids pick up on our moods and respond accordingly, but it's still sad. He's basically trashing any chance of ever having a healthy relationship with his son and eventually Bentley will be old enough to realize and will potentially start saying things like "I don't want to go to Dad's, he just ignores me and hangs out with his friends the whole time" or something similar. Either that or he will become one of those kids who keeps doing crazier and crazier things to try to get attention from Dad any way that he can. I seriously hope that poor baby turns out normal despite his father being so uninvolved. It helps that everyone else in his life seems caring and loving

And yes, I totally agree on trying to do anything else while watching a baby or toddler. Heck, my kids are school age and I still have times when they are home when it seems near impossible to get anything done. It's no longer a safety concern but they are still needy of your time. Luckily my DH is around enough to realize this...