WWE'S Chris Benoit and his family found dead!

[Ticket Man]

In addition, pro wrestlers are put on a more grueling schedule than any pro sport, and are injured much more often. Benoit got to where he was purely because of athleticism and hard work.

 

[Anewman]

You're missing the point. Benoit wasn't one of these guys, he was very small in comparison to other wrestlers. He was terrible on the mic. The Rock was a decent wrestler on the mat, but he got where he was because he was one of the most entertaining talkers in wrestling history.

I think you are missing the point.

Just because in your opinion Benoit may have been actually athletic does not make the WWE an actual sport and exemplified by your mention of Rock and Cena.

His job was still to "PERFORM" for the audience just like Rock or anyone else.

 

[Ticket Man]

I think you are missing the point.

Just because in your opinion Benoit may have been actually athletic does not make the WWE an actual sport and exemplified by your mention of Rock and Cena.

His job was still to "PERFORM" for the audience just like Rock or anyone else.

I never said it was a sport, it's definitely NOT a sport. However a great % of the wrestlers have great athleticism and take greater risks than virtually all pro athletes (boxers and MMA perhaps withstanding).

 

[disneyfan67]

In addition, pro wrestlers are put on a more grueling schedule than any pro sport, and are injured much more often. Benoit got to where he was purely because of athleticism and hard work.

NFL players take the most pounding of any athlete in the world of sports. When they get to be older and in their later years, they look like crippled 100 year old men. The NFL is coming under fire for the lack of benefits for the older, retired players. These guys who played as recently as the late 1980's are in terrible shape and face mental and physical damage. Multiple joint replacements are common and they live with a high level of pain. I have seen players at Canton, Ohio (HOF) that I considered to be God's among men when I was a kid, and they are using walkers and in motorised wheel chairs. They're in their 50's and they look like warmed over death! Please don't compare a what a Pro Wrestler does to a Pro NFL athlete. It just isn't the same, by any means.

 

[Mermaid02]

Not trying to be mean or belittle you in anyway. I wanted to point out that Professional wrestling is entertainment, not a real sport like the NFL or MLB. It's staged with colorful characters and storylines for entertainment and entertains many. It's not a real competition and the outcomes are known in advance. It's very similar to an action movie like Lethal Weapon, etc. You love the action, but know in the back of your mind that Mel Gibson isn't a super cop with deadly Martial arts skills and can perform dangerous stunts. This wrestler who died was a entertainer, much like a movie star, and he did a terrible thing to his family.

NFL is a real sport with a real chance of players being seriously injured and killed. Players that have to leave the playing field are usually darn near crippled in their later years and suffer from Parkinson's and other terrible. problems from taking to many hits to their head and body. A running back in the NFL has a shelf life for about 3 years on average. There is a difference between real sports and acting. I know it doesn't ease your pain, but I wanted to put things in perspective for you.

As for the grief you feel, I'm sorry about how you feel. I hope you realize that he was just a person or charcter who entertained you and not a real life person like a husband, a child, or a father to you. It's easy to see and watch people on TV, the movies, etc, and get an emotional attachment to them. It's a fantasy and you should look to your family and people who really love you, for support. Feel sorry for the dead wife and child of this poor excuse of a man. Only a truly disturbed person could harm a defenseless child and woman. Don't grieve too much for a man that was just an image on the TV screen and was a fantasy made for entertainment. He wasn't Micheal Jordan or Barry Sanders and what he did on stage was a made up fantasy.

I hope you can come to terms with what you're feeling. A lot of Americans place way too much emotional attachment into celebrities and it isn't healthy.

This is a fantastic post!

As far as OJ being found not guilty.... the guy has penned a book that basically says, "if I did it, this is how I woulda done it" ((wink wink)) ((nudge nudge)) Maybe Benoit will be on the door as "people greeter" in hell the day OJ dies.

 

[JadenLayne]

OH good lord some people will argue just to see themself type.

This is my last post on this thread since it's become he said, she said.

I"MY"OP yes it's a sport! No there aren't winner and losers like football but it is still something that takes athletic ability.

BUT WHY did a thread talking about a man who was a great athlete but was obvioulsy mentally sick turn into arguing over whether or not wrestling is a sport. STUPID. Does no one care about what actually happened and getting to the bottom of why it happened so it won't happen again or do we all just care about arguing and trying to one up someone else. So STUPID and CHILDISH and I won't involve myself in it anymore.

 

[cardaway]

NFL players take the most pounding of any athlete in the world of sports. When they get to be older and in their later years, they look like crippled 100 year old men. The NFL is coming under fire for the lack of benefits for the older, retired players. These guys who played as recently as the late 1980's are in terrible shape and face mental and physical damage. Multiple joint replacements are common and they live with a high level of pain. I have seen players at Canton, Ohio (HOF) that I considered to be God's among men when I was a kid, and they are using walkers and in motorised wheel chairs. They're in their 50's and they look like warmed over death! Please don't compare a what a Pro Wrestler does to a Pro NFL athlete. It just isn't the same, by any means.

Well said. The closest comparison there is IMO would be to Hollywood stuntmen. Some stuntmen can act too, but I wouldn't call a stuntman an athlete and what they do certainly can't be called a sport.

 

[luvindisneyworld]

OH good lord some people will argue just to see themself type.

This is my last post on this thread since it's become he said, she said.

I"MY"OP yes it's a sport! No there aren't winner and losers like football but it is still something that takes athletic ability.

BUT WHY did a thread talking about a man who was a great athlete but was obvioulsy mentally sick turn into arguing over whether or not wrestling is a sport. STUPID. Does no one care about what actually happened and getting to the bottom of why it happened so it won't happen again or do we all just care about arguing and trying to one up someone else. So STUPID and CHILDISH and I won't involve myself in it anymore.

It seems to be alot of that going around on the Dis lately.I cnt believe how bad it has gotten around here.

I am sickened by what happened to this family.

 

[cardaway]

If one thing good was to come of all this it would be somebody finally owning up to all the roid use. How many lives does it have to take before somebody takes action?

There was a time when the actors didn't have to look like bodybuilders with veins popping out everywhere. They only had to do the moves correctly and be entertaining. They also didn't have R rated story lines.

 

[Planogirl]

If one thing good was to come of all this it would be somebody finally owning up to all the roid use. How many lives does it have to take before somebody takes action?

There was a time when the actors didn't have to look like bodybuilders with veins popping out everywhere. They only had to do the moves correctly and be entertaining. They also didn't have R rated story lines.

Chris Benoit did not look like a bodybuilder and did not have veins popping out everywhere. Have they determined that this was due to steroid use?

I'm amazed that this tragedy caused a bunch of people to argue over what seems like just about everything else. Wrestling didn't cause this and neither did the WWE. This was a guy who seemed like a good guy and was definitely a great athlete who somehow went off the deep end and did some horrible things. The only important things here are the mourners and getting to the bottom of what led up to this. None of this petty stuff means a thing.

Another thing, anyone who says that wrestlers aren't skilled and athletic for the most part doesn't know anything about it. A simple look at the x-division in TNA and at guys such as Benoit, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy and the like would show that. Is this scripted and thus not a sport? Definitely. Are these guys however athletic and skilled? Absolutely.

I had the same misconceptions until my son's love of wrestling exposed me to much of it and I learned how much it takes and also how many are truly nice, hard-working people. I don't know what happened here but this is certainly not typical and the wrestling world is in quite a state tonight.

 

[cardaway]

Chris Benoit did not look like a bodybuilder and did not have veins popping out everywhere. Have they determined that this was due to steroid use?

More than one source has confirmed roids being found in the house. I'm sure we will find out more on that angle in the future. And why would it be a surprise given the other roid related wrestling deaths in the last few years?

Looks like vein popping roid monger to me. He didn't always look like that.

 

[JadenLayne]

The steroids found in his home were PRESCRIPTION for a neck injury, not illegal. Did you read that.

Once again I don't care if he was on every illegal drug out there, if thats what caused him to go crazy we need to know. If it was really illegal drugs then we need to crack down more. This still has NOTHING to do with the WWE. Vince McMahon is very STRONGLY against Steroid Use.

 

[Planogirl]

Steroids have been banned for a while and if he was doing them, he was doing them on the sly. I don't agree that he looked like a steroid taker but whatever. I guess that's not really important either.

Another thing, we recently saw him and he looked NOTHING like that. I wonder when that picture was made.

 

[cardaway]

Steroids have been banned for a while and if he was doing them, he was doing them on the sly. I don't agree that he looked like a steroid taker but whatever. I guess that's not really important either.

Another thing, we recently saw him and he looked NOTHING like that. I wonder when that picture was made.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vince himself was pushing the stuff. He's not exactly innocent himself.

Benoit's and McMahon's changes make Barry Bonds and Mark McGuire look normal.

How many wrestlers have to die steroid related deaths before people take notice and stop believign the denial machine?

 

[Mermaid02]

Is that what makes their veins pop out? I always wondered why some body builders etc had that look. I always thought it was because they had a lot less "cushion" than myself.

Steroids are illegal, anyone doing them is doing them on the sly. I will say, just because someone is prescribed something by a doctor, doesn't make the way they are using them "legal". Of course we don't know ANY of this... all speculation.... in a way I hope he was just out of his mind... and this wasn't steroid use...

 

[cardaway]

Linda consider the source. Arguing is futile.

So is YAGEing if you're just going to come back hours later.

Many of the people taking steroids illegally previously had a legal perscription.

 

[cardaway]

Is that what makes their veins pop out? I always wondered why some body builders etc had that look. I always thought it was because they had a lot less "cushion" than myself.

Steroids are illegal, anyone doing them is doing them on the sly. I will say, just because someone is prescribed something by a doctor, doesn't make the way they are using them "legal". Of course we don't know ANY of this... all speculation.... in a way I hope he was just out of his mind... and this wasn't steroid use...

Yup, the BALCO scandal pretty much says it all.

 

[Mermaid02]

Yup, the BALCO scandal pretty much says it all.

What is that? I know very little of wrestling... generally I like it that way, but I am curious.

 

[JadenLayne]

YAGEing is that what I did? Oh well, maybe it is. Cool!

So now I'm YAGEing back in! It's a free country.

So funny, some things never ever ever change. Can I ask you a question that I've always wondered anyway, are you a man or a women? Seriously.

 

[Galahad]

If you think they are not real athletes then you have no clue what professional wrestling actually is.

I assume then, that you would consider ballet dancers athletes.