WWE'S Chris Benoit and his family found dead!

[dturner]

I heard it from the DA, too. I'm not sure why the other poster keeps insisting it's false information.

I think MOST people don't want to believe that he could do that to his own child.

 

[Anewman]

It doesn't, however, change that he was a talented wrestler who had many fantastic matches during his career.

Nice of you to honor him with your kind words.



Just kidding of course.

 

[harleyquinn]

Harley even though I dont feel i have attacked anyone, I will let it go because you asked nicely.

Attacked is definitely too strong of a word, but lets try to keep it friendly--as much as you can, k? :teeth

 

[declansdad]

Nice of you to honor him with your kind words.



Just kidding of course.

Please explain to me what is wrong with saying what I did? I would really like to hear your logical explanation as to why you see this as a difficult thing to do.

 

[The_Horned_King]

More news for you all....

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard joined Bob Frantz this morning on WTAM-1100 in Cleveland . Frantz’s topic on his show this morning was the Benoit story.



Frantz asked about reports that Nancy Benoit had bruises on her back from him having his knee in her back and bruises on her front from being pressed into the floor and the cable around her neck. He asked if this sounded like an incident of rage or something that was plotted out? Ballard said, in looking at the times of death – if it was rage, it was an extended period of rage. He says it doesn’t look like a temporary loss of self control, but rather separate incidents spread apart over hours. Ballard also said that there were steroids in the home, but couldn’t say what quantity.



Frantz asked about needle marks in Benoit’s son’s arm, and Ballard confirmed that there were “older” needle marks in the boys arm and he may have been injected with the steroids. Ballard also said he believes Benoit had a prescription for the steroids and thus had them legally.



Frantz asked if Ballard had ever seen anything like this where a situation of this type was stretched over a period of days and Ballard said he had not. They discussed Benoit staying in the house over those days with the bodies and Ballard indicated they are investigating Benoit’s comings and goings from the house over that time period.



Frantz questioned if the text messages Benoit apparently sent including one that suggested Nancy and Daniel had food poisoning were a way to set up an alibi. Ballard disagreed – saying he was likely simply explaining why they might not be out for people to see. Ballard believes the later test messages were designed by Benoit to have someone find his body after the suicide. Frantz clarified his question – in that he was wondering if Benoit initially wasn’t planning to kill himself and was setting up that as an explanation for his wife and son’s deaths. Ballard said there are plenty of possibilities – but investigators believe the texts about food poisoning were sent after Nancy and Daniel were already dead.



Frantz asked about the toxicology reports and Ballard said they will show what substances were in their bodies so they can get a better idea if steroids or other drugs played a role here. Ballard also said he was not aware of any other abuse in the home.



Ballard was asked in general how the D.A.’s office handles a situation where there will be no prosecution. He says they are still investigating to make sure there is no other involved party at large. They don’t believe there is but need to make sure.



Frantz asked how the community is handling it and Ballard said pretty well. He noted that fans are crushed and in state of disbelief. He also said he wasn’t sure many people in the area knew who he was and said he had never heard of Benoit.



Frantz then questioned Ballard about the timeline of events and when WWE would have known about it as a murder-suicide, because Frantz has been critical of WWE for running a tribute show Monday night while their own website posted that investigators were checking this as a double-murder-suicide during the show.



Ballard indicated that the bodies were found Monday around 2:30pm and it wasn’t until Tuesday around 2pm that it was officially announced that it was a double-murder-suicide, so WWE may not have known Monday night that it was a double-murder-suicide with Benoit as the murderer. He noted that investigators were being very guarded about what info they let out until they had all the facts straight. He said there may have been significant details that WWE didn’t know about Monday night.



Frantz pressed and clarified what he saw on WWE .com during the RAW show about a double-murder-suicide – but noted that no one was saying at that point who the murderer was – and it could have been Nancy . Ballard noted that some info may have gotten out earlier – but there was a lot of confusion early and then misinformation as well. He said it is harsh to judge WWE for running a tribute in their grief for an incident they didn’t have all the details about.



The interview was in hour one of the Bob Frantz show which can be podcast by going to this link. Bob talked about the Benoit story with callers throughout the show.

As for the choke Hold thing...the Da doesn't seem to know left from right Im begins to notice..at the press conference yesterday it was pretty apparent that the info was a pillow smothered the child in his bead...today it's a chokehold. So which was it?

Houston, Texas' KHOU interviewed World Wrestling Entertainment's King Booker regarding the Benoit family tragedy today at Booker's wrestling school. Booker said it was something "the wrestling family, the wrestling world" would never suspect would happen and it's the first time something of this nature has happened in the business.

Booker noted that he knew Benoit personally (a feud for the WCW TV title against Benoit put Booker on the map as a singles star) and he never saw that side of Benoit. He said that he knew Benoit's wife and all of his children and what happened was completely "out of the norm and unexplainable."

He noted that he wrestled Benoit 75-100 times and they had spoken just a few weeks ago for about 30 minutes about the wrestling business and never saw that side of him. "We're all tired at certain points, we work a lot of hours, but I never saw this side of Chris. I've never seen Chris mad. I've never seen Chris angry. He was always the guy with a lot of positive energy, always pushing the guys."

Booker told the story of a student that came to his school to be trained, arriving from Illinois with $800 in his pocket with "no way to go back" who carried a photo of Benoit and Eddie Guerrero as he was inspired by them to get into the business. "That was just the type of person he was, always encouraging people. He didn't even know this guy, but that's the type of person he was."

When the idea of "roid rage" was brought up, Booker remarked, "The media is going to put a spin on it, you know. We know that. WWE knows that. Did the guy last week who murders his wife and kid last week have any form of roid rage? He was a cop. This happens in any form of life. I feel like the human life is a delicate piece of equipment and everyone has their breaking point. We don't know what his breaking point was. You don't know what my point is, I don't know what your point is. We're all human. I just think it was a huge malfunction and whatever it was, we may never know. It's not for us to know. It's out of our hands and with God now."

Booker said the wrestling industry is a huge family and he's cried and wanted to pull his hair out over this. He said he loved Chris and he is mad to see him "go out like this. I'm pissed at him in certain ways. I wish I could just hold him for a second, but it's out of our hands. I'll be there at the funeral and tell him goodbye and hopefully see him on the other side. Hopefully, I'll find out what happened one day."

 

[Anewman]

Please explain to me what is wrong with saying what I did? I would really like to hear your logical explanation as to why you see this as a difficult thing to do.

It was a joke.

You made numerous posts about nobody honoring him, and then say words similar to those used by his fellow wrestlers during the 3 hour tribute in his HONOR. I thought it was funny.

Please explain where I said there was something wrong with you saying it, I didnt and there is nothing wrong with you saying it.

clear enough?

 

[The_Horned_King]

Not that I have a written bit about it,..but there is another rumor that was on the radio earlier is that Benoit owed a bunch of money to some very bad people who forced him to watch the murder of his wife and kid then they hung him after putting him and the family on some drugs to keep them pretty much unable to move.

this sounds like a crazy theory and something posted by someone who is unwilling to believe...but it's still a possibility until the cops say other wise..as they have said they are still going over the house and trying to decided if anyone else was involved.

 

[harleyquinn]

I heard it from the DA, too. I'm not sure why the other poster keeps insisting it's false information.

It's not false, but it does not say that he definitely killed him with the choke hold. It says he "may have killed him with a wrestling choke hold."

I think the media is going nuts over this and a lot of false info is out there right now. The statement did come directly from Ballard, so it should have some credibitily.

I think the investegators need to stop giving information that is not proven fact yet. In all the other high profile cases I've witnessed (which admittedly are few) I've never seen them say so much that "might" be how things happened. Maybe that's from watching too much CSI though. lol

It really doesn't matter to me how he killed him for me. He did it, it was totally sick and wrong, no matter how it happened.

 

[willis37862]

How very very sad. I did read somewhere that his child suffered from what I believe they called "fragile X" syndrome and some thought that might have played a part in him losing it. How anyone could do that to any child let alone their own. I think MONSTER is a good word for him right now.

I totally agree. Sorry but only a MONSTER could do this to his family. How do you kill a child...any child let alone one that is your blood and that you have lived with and loved its whole life.

I could NEVER ever watch himm wrestle..Ever.. All I would ever be able to do is to think of what he did to the people he was supposed to love and protect...I can't watch OJ either

I agree. I would be ill every time I saw that scums face.

 

[Anewman]

but it's still a possibility until the cops say other wise..as they have said they are still going over the house and trying to decided if anyone else was involved.

So this you consider possible but you ruled out Roid Rage along time ago...

Sorry but to me this just took some of the credibility from the great posts you had contributed to this thread.

 

[declansdad]

It was a joke.

You made numerous posts about nobody honoring him, and then say words similar to those used by his fellow wrestlers during the 3 hour tribute in his HONOR. I thought it was funny.

Please explain where I said there was something wrong with you saying it, I didnt and there is nothing wrong with you saying it.

clear enough?

Obviously you are not reading what I am posting.

Earlier I was responding to a post about someone being sickened by people honouring him after what he did to his wife and son. No one has honoured Chris Benoit, the person, since it came out that he was responsible for these murders. That is completely different than saying he was a gifted athlete and a talented wrestler. What he did doesn't change that, no matter how much some people say it should.

 

[The_Horned_King]

sorry you guys feel that way...there are others who feel different.

You guys nbeed to stop argueing and bashing each others feelings about it and just comment on the facts and the reports.

We need to keep our own feelings on the subject out of it..it's causeing what was once a news thread to become a opinion thread (I too am guilty of this) but it also seems like I am the only one that is posting any real news on it!

 

[The_Horned_King]

So this you consider possible but you ruled out Roid Rage along time ago...

Sorry but to me this just took some of the credibility from the great posts you had contributed to this thread.

I personally have rulled it out as I have seen people roid rage and this has NO connection to anything I HAVE ever seen or Heard about in connection to roid rage.

At this point anything is possible as I'm not a cop and I am not involved with the investigation....To me I think there is no roid connection..but I could be wrong...it's just my opinion after all.

 

[Anewman]

No one has honoured Chris Benoit, the person, since it came out that he was responsible for these murders. That is completely different than saying he was a gifted athlete and a talented wrestler. What he did doesn't change that, no matter how much some people say it should.

Well I guess we just disagree.

How else would a athlete be honored other than praising his athletic accomplishments.

Not saying that there is anything wrong with what you are doing, but it is IMO honoring him. And IMO WWE agrees since they will no longer be honoring him even if he had great matches.

 

[Anewman]

You guys nbeed to stop argueing and bashing each others feelings about it and just comment on the facts and the reports.

The IRONY.

Sorry somebody broke into my house and forced me to watch as they posted this.

could happen...

 

[The_Horned_King]

Well I guess we just disagree.

How else would a athlete be honored other than praising his athletic accomplishments.

Not saying that there is anything wrong with what you are doing, but it is IMO honoring him. And IMO WWE agrees since they will no longer be honoring him even if he had great matches.

I went into this WAY back...somepeople can seperate the entertainer from the man...others can't. It's that simple...it's like the killer cop(here in ohio) some can and will seperate that he did great things as a cop serveing and protecting us..from the fact that he killed his girlfriend and unborn child...others won't...it's personal opinion.

 

[declansdad]

Well I guess we just disagree.

How else would a athlete be honored other than praising his athletic accomplishments.

Not saying that there is anything wrong with what you are doing, but it is IMO honoring him. And IMO WWE agrees since they will no longer be honoring him even if he had great matches.

Just wanted to thank you for continously changing what I say.

You're very good at.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

sorry you guys feel that way...there are others who feel different.

You guys nbeed to stop argueing and bashing eachothers feelings about it and just comment onteh facts and the reports.

We need to keep our own feelings on the subject out of it..it's causeing what was once a news thread to become a opinion thread (I too am guilty of this) but it also seems like I am the only one that is posting any real news on it!

1. Find me one thread on the DIS that has all facts and not one opinion. Posting just facts, esp. about something like a celebrity murder-suicide, seems impossible. People can go to a news site to find news. People come on the DIS to share opinions on it.

2. Many people have stated that they can respect Benoit as an athlete even if not as a man and how incredible his career was. This is similar to Hitler being called a powerfully talented orator and charismatic leader. They both may be true, but it is easy to see how one positive can be overshadowed by such a large negative and how so many people have a hard time separating them.

 

[The_Horned_King]

The IRONY.

Sorry somebody broke into my house and forced me to watch as they posted this.

could happen...

Ok your right that was one silly comment...It's just ruff watching everyone bash eachother about their feelings.

 

[harleyquinn]

sorry you guys feel that way...there are others who feel different.

You guys nbeed to stop argueing and bashing each others feelings about it and just comment on the facts and the reports.

We need to keep our own feelings on the subject out of it..it's causeing what was once a news thread to become a opinion thread (I too am guilty of this) but it also seems like I am the only one that is posting any real news on it!

I think it's fine to talk about our feelings, but I don't think it's fine to bash each other for what we feel. This thread just isn't for news, it a place where we can discuss the tragedy like adults.

I think it's wrong to pick apart each other's posts. Maybe we need two seperate threads.