Wouldn't it be nice if DVC offered it this way?

[Eeyore2U]

This is turning into the age old bulletin board debate. Someone floated an idea and expected universal acceptance of said idea. It's not going to happen.

It's not a bad thing to try to reinvent the wheel. Some dissenters have there reaons (class yadda yadda) others have other reasons. Just remember some show the passion for an issue in differing forms.

The only thing I can keep going back to is that when we all bought we know what we were getting accomodationwise. We knew the points it would take to get what we wanted. If in retrospect we didn't get enough points it's not going to make a difference to try to change the wheel since it won't happen. Look at other options or add on. Rules are there for a reason.

BTW, DW decided to buy since in the long run it was a good financial move and no other reason. (you gotta love bean counters!!!)

 

[EROS]

Originally posted by MELSMICE


I also never knew we were in a higher class than other people just by joining DVC.

LOL ......I HAVE frequently noticed the scent of caviar and Brie emanating from the rooms at BWV. I feel that DVC membership has provided me with the upward mobility that I've sought for a lifetime.................it's nice to feel that one is truly a part of :

THE UPPER CRUST

Time to head down to TIFFANY & CO. to begin my Xmas shopping

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by EROS
LOL ......I HAVE frequently noticed the scent of caviar and Brie emanating from the rooms at BWV. I feel that DVC membership has provided me with the upward mobility that I've sought for a lifetime.................it's nice to feel that one is truly a part of :

THE UPPER CRUST

Time to head down to TIFFANY & CO. to begin my Xmas shopping

 

[Regina]

This is turning into the age old bulletin board debate. Someone floated an idea and expected universal acceptance of said idea. It's not going to happen.

I see this more as someone offering their thoughts, and seeing how others felt about the topic.

Now please excuse me. I've summoned my private masseuse and then I'm expecting Fergie for tea.

 

[AEN]

I haven't had a chance to read all the replies but I agree with the original post. The family of five/six is stuck in limbo.

 

[vernon]

I don't think families of 5 or 6 are "in Limbo" they knew the set up when they bought into DVC, they should have planned for this eventuality. IMHO If it means you spend less time at WDW because you need a 2 bed not a 1 bed while your family grows up, then that's the way it is. I planned I'd either pay $$ for the other nights I'd spend on Vaca or I'd go for less time.

I really liked the king set up when I viewed and it was one of the reasons I decided to buy into DVC. The opportunity for privacy on vacation was a major plus, IMHO the crux of the matter is "quality private time with your partner" it's something that's been skirted around, but to a lot of people the opportunity to share a bedroom with their partner while they have the time to enjoy their company (unlike home where work, cleaning etc etc means all you want to do in bed is sleep).

If getting a kingsize ( read private bedroom) became a "request issue" it would detract, for a lot of people, one of the biggest reason they bought into DVC. I'd be really upset if I didn't get a King I'd requested.
Why should Disney worry if people don't get the units they request? Well IMHO this would cause a lot of complaints/requests for room changes , this would take up a lot of "admin time" in sorting out. IMHO anything that is potentially a source of friction for members is something that is unlikely to work for DVC management.

While I find some of the "elitist" views offered a little distastful, to ignore that one of DVC's biggest selling points is the fact people feel the extra $$ they are paying for a timeshare development that is part of Disney (and paying more you are) is worth it for the cache attatched to being in one of the more elite timeshares available.
Some people , having bought into what they see as an elitist product, are going to do all they can to defend the elitism that makes their product special to them. I may not agree with the way they verbalise this fact, but I agree with the bottom line that to allow this type of watering down would devalue the investment I have made.

While it may be convenient for some members, for a small part of their ownership to have units as discribed, IMHO overall it is a short-term measure for a short term problem that loses more than it gains for most (if not all ) members.

 

[WDWguruDH]

I have to agree with ncligs and Richyams. If we had walked into a model with two beds in the 1br we would not have bought. We purchased DVC because of the accomodations(master suite), the affordability just made it a good purchase. We did not want a hotel room with a kitchen or living room.
When Disney built the DVC with the home away from home concept they were targeting people like us, who wanted better, affordable accomodations. This does not make us "better" or "upper-crust", just a fit to the option that was offered. People can, and have, bought it do something different with. That is fine as long as they can do in the setup that exists.
We have added-on several times and if they opened a resort with the king or two bed option, we would NOT add-on. We have only been about 50% successful with our requests and I would not want to have to request a king bed and not get it. This does not mean that MELSMICE idea is not a good one, DVC could develop, as Richyams indicated, a resort with this option to appeal/target a different group of WDW traveler.

 

[Pa@okw95]

If you have 5 or 6 in a family then be prepared to rent a 2 bedroom or a grand villa if you can not afford it then do not buy into DVC it is that simple. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I don't want to see OKW go down hill.

 

[paults]

Please read slowly so as not to think I'm trying to offend anyone.

I agree with vernon we all knew how DVC worked when we bought in. Just have to add on to make it work or don't use Fri- Sat pts. just stay 5 nts. Sun- Thurs

So now that dw and I joined I guess we are now consider UPPER CRUST. Does that mean we don't have to shop at K-Mart and Value City anymore, if so I guess we could have afforded more than 150 pts but we just couldn't do it.

I wonder how many families of 5 or 6 go to WDW for a full wk and use those high wkend pts for Fri-Sat stays. If you just go 5 nts you could get a 2-bedroom. Its just dw and I but when our adult children go we get studios and only stay Sun- Thurs on pts. Others here will say they bought pts so they could stay on wkends, right Rich that's great but I refuse to waste high pts on the wkend.

PS: do the UPPER CRUST GROUP get any DVC DISCOUNTS

 

[EROS]

Since we're HIGH ROLLERS and members of the UPPER CRUST, we bought sufficient points to stay on weekends at DVC. I know that some prefer to vacate on Fri-Sat, but it's toooooooo much hassle for us. We prefer settling in .

As for the families of 5/6, use your OWN discretion about 1 bedrooms and don't worry about the regulatory snobs .....

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by paults

PS: do the UPPER CRUST GROUP get any DVC DISCOUNTS

Well, I'll go get my latest edition of 'UPPER CRUSTER' monthly, and check the latest discounts.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by vernon
I don't think families of 5 or 6 are "in Limbo" they knew the set up when they bought into DVC, they should have planned for this eventuality. IMHO If it means you spend less time at WDW because you need a 2 bed not a 1 bed while your family grows up, then that's the way it is. I planned I'd either pay $$ for the other nights I'd spend on Vaca or I'd go for less time.

I really liked the king set up when I viewed and it was one of the reasons I decided to buy into DVC. The opportunity for privacy on vacation was a major plus, IMHO the crux of the matter is "quality private time with your partner" it's something that's been skirted around, but to a lot of people the opportunity to share a bedroom with their partner while they have the time to enjoy their company (unlike home where work, cleaning etc etc means all you want to do in bed is sleep).

If getting a kingsize ( read private bedroom) became a "request issue" it would detract, for a lot of people, one of the biggest reason they bought into DVC. I'd be really upset if I didn't get a King I'd requested.
Why should Disney worry if people don't get the units they request? Well IMHO this would cause a lot of complaints/requests for room changes , this would take up a lot of "admin time" in sorting out. IMHO anything that is potentially a source of friction for members is something that is unlikely to work for DVC management.

While I find some of the "elitist" views offered a little distastful, to ignore that one of DVC's biggest selling points is the fact people feel the extra $$ they are paying for a timeshare development that is part of Disney (and paying more you are) is worth it for the cache attatched to being in one of the more elite timeshares available.
Some people , having bought into what they see as an elitist product, are going to do all they can to defend the elitism that makes their product special to them. I may not agree with the way they verbalise this fact, but I agree with the bottom line that to allow this type of watering down would devalue the investment I have made.

While it may be convenient for some members, for a small part of their ownership to have units as discribed, IMHO overall it is a short-term measure for a short term problem that loses more than it gains for most (if not all ) members.

Very well written, vernon. I agree.

I would like to say that having a larger family in general, will cost more money. Larger home, larger car, and....of course, larger vacation accommodations. I don't see this as a surprise.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by vernon

I really liked the king set up when I viewed and it was one of the reasons I decided to buy into DVC. The opportunity for privacy on vacation was a major plus, IMHO the crux of the matter is "quality private time with your partner" it's something that's been skirted around, but to a lot of people the opportunity to share a bedroom with their partner while they have the time to enjoy their company (unlike home where work, cleaning etc etc means all you want to do in bed is sleep).

Vernon,
I couldn't have said it better.

....

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by vernon
I really liked the king set up when I viewed and it was one of the reasons I decided to buy into DVC. The opportunity for privacy on vacation was a major plus, IMHO the crux of the matter is "quality private time with your partner" it's something that's been skirted around, but to a lot of people the opportunity to share a bedroom with their partner while they have the time to enjoy their company (unlike home where work, cleaning etc etc means all you want to do in bed is sleep).

 

[ralphd]

I still like the current occupancy rules and the bedroom layout.
Remember it is the room layout that we purchased when we signed on the dotted line. Also remember that when you ask for a persons opinion, you should respect their answer. DVC is a step above most timeshare programs and I don't understand why that offends DVC some members.
This is developing into a Debate Board thread.

ralphd

 

[MELSMICE]

Maistre Gracey - the larger family was a surprise for me - twins was not planned!!! But I wouldn't trade it for anything - even if it means having to use more points to get a 2BR in DVC.

Anyway - I for one am ready to put this thread to "bed" - no pun intended.

It's nice to hear different opinions & boy have I heard many. Regardless of what is offered I know I will always love DVC - I'm a Disneyholic!!!

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by brittsmum1998
Dean I love your posts and have tons of respect for you BUT we bought DVC so that going to Disney World WOULD be more affordable. My family of 3 is never going to grow, we thought a studio was enough alas what we could afford. WE know better now and get 1 bdrm for 3 of us and have since added on but I do not consider myself in a higher class, income or otherwise. Maybe we are the minority, but speaking w/ a few people throughout the World, they are also families who figured like us. DVC is much more comfortable than the moderates etc but we bought strictly knowing the cost of living wouldn't increase our hotel expenses for the next 40 yrs the comfort level of the villas is "gravy".

What I was referring to was the way DVC owners look at themselves. I know it's not quite true on this board but if you go to WDW and ask DVC owners, a significant portion would say they don't even own a timeshare. I was more referring to that aspect of how most owners see themselves and how DVC members are perceived by the rest of the timeshare world. Since I go both ways (DVC and other Timeshares), I get to be the heavy from both sides. On DIS, I suspect I come across as somewhat anti DVC though it's more the voice of reality. On TUG, I think I'm seen as a homer for DVC.

You can't have it both ways. You can't say it is so great to be a member and talk about all the happy feelings without admitting that the same feelings put you in a different situation than most people. I am not saying that DVC members are better than anyone else, only that they see themselves as different.

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by Dean
You can't have it both ways. You can't say it is so great to be a member and talk about all the happy feelings without admitting that the same feelings put you in a different situation than most people. I am not saying that DVC members are better than anyone else, only that they see themselves as different.

I agree Dean, 100%.

I find it funny that many that complain about DVC not being elitist are the same who complain about our status whenwanting more discounts. Which is it? Are we special group or are we not special?

 

[Regina]

And let's not forget that the topic of this thread is whether different bedding would be preferable in the master bedrooms.

Let's try to keep this on topic, and civil.

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CaptainMidnight]

I couldn't understand why this posting was getting all the replies it was, then when I skim through, I see it's bouncing in and out of the room occupancy debate.

I like the king bed in the master bedroom, regardless of whether people have 5 in a room (two parents, three small children) or not. I understand those talking about the two queen option, we don't like little kids sleeping in a separate room by themselves in an unfamiliar hotel next to kitchen utensils and stoves etc. without supervision, but I'm glad the king was a part of the bedroom, and wouldn't want to see it changed.

The two bedroom option is available for those who have guests or when the kids get too big for it to be comfortable, or when the use of the pull out couch is not desired. DVC members know what they bought and can use the accomodations to best meet their individual family's needs.

Time to close this thread?