Wouldn't it be nice if DVC offered it this way?

[eva]

This topic has been discussed a couple of other times before and it usually ends up that the majority like the layout the way it is. I for one would be dead set against it if they made some 1 bedrooms with Kings and some with 2 doubles and you were not guaranteed which you would get. When we take our two girls we want a 2 bedroom. They get their own room and bath and that's the way we like it. When it is just the two of us we get a 1 bedroom and definitely want a king size bed in the master suite. We have a king at home and want to be as comfortable on vacation as we are at home. I understand that a 2 bedroom is more points but if 5 are going to be sharing a room and a bath it is starting to sound more like a hotel room than a "Home Away From Home". If DVC did decide to start making some 1 bedrooms with 2 doubles I would definitely expect them to be able to distinguish them out when making reservations. I think that this would make a nightmare for MS. Not only that, but if half of a resort has 2 doubles in the master bedroom then it would be tougher to get 1 bedrooms with a king. I don't think that you will see DVC change room layouts too much in the newer resorts. They are making money with the layouts the way they are. Plus, the way that layouts are now requires larger families to get a 2 bedroom and use more points. Exactly what DVC wants.

 

[vbfamily]

I see what you mean Melsmice. When we traveled in Oct. we took my MIL if there had been 2 Q's in the bedroom then we could have had mom, dad and 2 kids in the br and MIL in the living room-then you don't have to get a 2 br.

It would be nice not to have to shell out a lot of extra pts when traveling with 5 or 6. I don't think DVC will ever change the arrangement. The 2 Q's in the br would really help us out a lot but I am sure it is not for everyone.


Thanks for posting-I like your idea.

 

[Richyams]

What about when someone gets up? They have to go out into the living room and wake MIL up, isn't that awful?

What about MIL haveing to go potty at three in the morning? She has to go through the master to get the bathroom.

Sorry, the whole thing just sounds too Motel 6, 8 or whatever it is, for me.

Remember, DVC is not for everyone. It was an upscale vacation experience that Disney decided to sell.

It would be nice if Mercedes were more affordable too.....

 

[Pa@okw95]

A master bedroom with 2 queen beds, duh, I don't think so. If you have 5 people rent a 2 bedroom, don't ask others to give up their master bedroom.

 

[Muushka]

Originally posted by ncligs
If DVC didn't have the Master BR and king size bed, we wouldn't have even considered to join.

Ditto for us!

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by vbfamily
It would be nice not to have to shell out a lot of extra pts when traveling with 5 or 6.

I think this phrasing isn't accurate. It's not extra points. It's the points required. We all knew what we got into when we signed.

 

[brittsmum1998]

Don't put me in w/ the "UPSCALE" category. To me that sounds so snobbish! I would be thrilled to see another family be able to join DVC and would certainly not sell them on the fact that its "UPSCALE" and oh yeah...the MIL using the bathroom problem? We did it a few years ago w/ 6 people including MIL on the couch...we had the bathroom problem but ONLY at OKW. Does that make OKW LESS UPSCALE than the Boardwalk???? Sorry guys but this thread is starting to get rediculious. We all know what our comfort zones and we all know DVC DOES allow 5 to a one bedroom so lets give it a rest huh? I thought OHANA meant FAMILY? I'm glad DVC does the credit checks and NOT alot people on this board.

 

[Dean]

Don't put me in w/ the "UPSCALE" category. To me that sounds so snobbish!

If you've got it, flaunt it. LOL. Seriously, the idea that DVC should "make it more affordable" for certain families just doesn't fly. Remember that DVD's main issue is making money. To do that they must decide what will appeal to potential buyers and how much money is the minimul they can tolerate. Thus comes the decisions as to how many points, price per point and how the rooms are set up. It's a reservation nightmare to have choices that must be accounted for. Even one more variable can really make things more expensive and more difficult to administer.

And DVC members aren't your typical timeshare owner. They see themselvs as owning something more and better, at least for them. That's just the way it is.

 

[luckytso]

I have to say that I am surprised about how many people are against the 2 queen bed in the Master bedroom.

I would like to see DVC can put 2 beds in some master bedrooms so that no one needs to sleep in the living room. This is still a lot more attractive than the hotel room. If I can stay at any of the Deluxe hotel for a family of 4, it is already a step up from that.

I also would LOVE to see another 1/2 bath added. However, this may never happen.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by Dean

And DVC members aren't your typical timeshare owner. They see themselvs as owning something more and better, at least for them. That's just the way it is.

 

[Tigger1]

What if Disney stopped building new DVC units and they sold out completely. Then Disney may want to fill those units up as much as possible.

I like the thought of more flexability with points. How about if they designed 1 bedroom units that you could choose either the king bedrrom or the 2 beds room. Then the room not used could be rented as a studio. I would love to be able to use my points for a king bed studio when the kids have grown and do not go to Disney with us. At that time I would not need the living /kitchen for anything. Just the bed, balcony, coffee pot and a small fridge. That means that the king room would also need its own balcony.

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by Tigger1
What if Disney stopped building new DVC units and they sold out completely. Then Disney may want to fill those units up as much as possible.

I like the thought of more flexability with points. How about if they designed 1 bedroom units that you could choose either the king bedrrom or the 2 beds room. Then the room not used could be rented as a studio. I would love to be able to use my points for a king bed studio when the kids have grown and do not go to Disney with us. At that time I would not need the living /kitchen for anything. Just the bed, balcony, coffee pot and a small fridge. That means that the king room would also need its own balcony.

I'm not sure giving a choice is a wise idea. See Preferred/Standard view at BWV and room requests. The more standars the less whining when someone doesn't get what they want. DW and I have had the discussion about when we travel alone. We like the idea of a 1br. It allows movement for one and privacy aka sleep for the other.

 

[montessori]

Originally posted by Richyams
What about when someone gets up? They have to go out into the living room and wake MIL up, isn't that awful?

What about MIL haveing to go potty at three in the morning? She has to go through the master to get the bathroom.

Sorry, the whole thing just sounds too Motel 6, 8 or whatever it is, for me.

Remember, DVC is not for everyone. It was an upscale vacation experience that Disney decided to sell.

It would be nice if Mercedes were more affordable too.....

"Because they were made to be "Home away from Home".

Homes have a master bedroom." Richyams

Wow.

Disney also offers studio rooms as part of it's "home away from home" upscale vacation experience.
I don't think anyone has a HOME the same size and set-up as a studio room.

How unfair it is to respond to the original post with such a "we are BETTER than that" attitude.

I agree with Luckytso, I am surprised that so many people object to having 2 queen beds in the room. It may not suit everyone but it's not a ridiculous concept. It may not be ideal for everyone but it would make the one bedroom units perfectly suitable for many families.
It may not be exactly like home, but is it exactly like everyone's home the way it is set up now?
I'm sure Disney has it's reasons for setting up the villas the way they do ($$) and it's unlikely it will change in the future.
I find it very disheartening that so many people see this simple query as an affront to their "status and class".

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by luckytso
I have to say that I am surprised about how many people are against the 2 queen bed in the Master bedroom.

I would like to see DVC can put 2 beds in some master bedrooms so that no one needs to sleep in the living room. This is still a lot more attractive than the hotel room. If I can stay at any of the Deluxe hotel for a family of 4, it is already a step up from that.

IT's been overwhelming against this idea, every time it's come up. Besides, no one needs to sleep in the LR though some may chose to do so. I think those in favor of this idea seem to think it's a very simple proceedure but it's not. It would be if we were discussing the first DVC resort and starting from scratch. Put your self in MS shoes and think about the costs involved. The more variables you have, the higher the costs are going to be. Even adding one room type that was reserved separately would be a nightmare from a reservation and maint. standpoint and I'd guess it would ad 2-4% cost for the same number of units otherwise. Not to mention that it would be a unique room only at one resort while all the others are different.

I also suspect those in favor are thinking it would be the same points or slightly more to have a sleep 6 one BR and I don't think that's the case. I would expect the number of points to be only about 40% less the difference between a 1 BR and 2 BR currently so the actual points savings would be minimal. Say 320 for a 1 BR sleep 6 compared to 350 for a 2 BR magic season at the newer resorts. OF course, no one in their right mind is going to put 2 double or even qeen beds in a Master so they'd have to put a murphy bed or extra pull out somewhere, likely in the LR. They could put a pull out love seat in the Master instead or in addition. Regardless, you'd need larger rooms and that translates into more costs up front also.

I'd also venture to guess that if they did that in a smaller resort like SS, it wouldn't simply be adding an additional catefory per se. I'd think they either wouldn't have either 1 BR sleep 4 units or 2 BR sleep 6/8. They could also do a lockoff "GV" sleep 10 or 12 with a sleep 6 1 BR and
a lockoff portion that slept 4-6 or even two 1 BR sleep 6 units that could be combined into a "GV". It's likely that the total number of points would be higher per unit AND the cost per point would be higher as well. Still, I don't think we will ever see this at DVC and I don't think it's a reasonable thing for them to do.

There are other timeshare resorts that have 1 BR sleep 6 units. The exchange companies have started downgrading their exchange power to a sleep 4 power because of the lack of privacy issue.

 

[paults]

Nay

BUT!! Just think about this . If DVC does this (2 beds in 1 bedroom) gee, with the extra people in there using 1 bathroom, maybe they can renovate the 1 bedrooms every year due to over use. Nah never happen. (I HOPE NOT ANYWAY)

I vote to let the (KING) lie in peace

PS: I wonder how much this would cost us for the change?

 

[Chuck S]

Originally posted by Tigger1
What if Disney stopped building new DVC units and they sold out completely. Then Disney may want to fill those units up as much as possible.

Irrelevant, as a "fully sold" resort would not be OWNED by Disney, but by members (with the exception of the small % that DVD retains for maintenance). Changing would then require a vote of the membership of those resorts owners, since it would be changing substantially what we paid for. I don't have a problem with DVD making a new resort with new occupancy rules, but I also think that those that buy into the new resort should not be able to freely trade their points within the existing DVC resort system. Maybe a new "moderate" style DVC II, with their own point system, point trade out agreements, etc. could do this.

I think the current DVC occupancy system works well. If you want more freestanding beds, then you can make a choice - the conveniences of a 2 bdrm, or 2 studios to save points.

 

[vbfamily]

I agree with Montessori-"I also find it disheartening that so many see this simple query as an affront to their status and class"

Melsmice was merely floating an idea.

Just because some people like the thought of 2 beds in the BR means that "DVC is not for us"-We just spent $20,000

You know what, nevermind.

Thank you Melsmice for a great idea-I look forward to hearing more of your ideas in the future

 

[brittsmum1998]

Dean I love your posts and have tons of respect for you BUT we bought DVC so that going to Disney World WOULD be more affordable. My family of 3 is never going to grow, we thought a studio was enough alas what we could afford. WE know better now and get 1 bdrm for 3 of us and have since added on but I do not consider myself in a higher class, income or otherwise. Maybe we are the minority, but speaking w/ a few people throughout the World, they are also families who figured like us. DVC is much more comfortable than the moderates etc but we bought strictly knowing the cost of living wouldn't increase our hotel expenses for the next 40 yrs the comfort level of the villas is "gravy".

 

[ripleysmom]

I also would not mind having the option of a Master with 2 beds. We are a family of 4 with one of each child. At 11 and 6 they do not share a bed (nor would I want them to). Our only option, due to the layout of the 1BR, is to get a 2 BR.

I don't suppose that any of you have considered that, in addition to not requiring people to spend more points for their accommodations than they need to, this might also free up more space for people to stay at DVC. I know that I wouldn't need that extra studo if the layout of the room were changed. I am sure that there are many families of 4 with the same situation.

Not that I am complaining. I like DVC and accept what our requirements are. It would just be nice to only have to use the points that the 1BR was supposedly for without expecting one of my children to sleep on the floor.

And melsmice please do not let the tone of the responses put you off.

 

[MELSMICE]

My goodness - I never imagined that my "thought" would be so controversial - & it is just a thought.

vbfamily - thank you for reminding everyone that it was just an idea.

I also never knew we were in a higher class than other people just by joining DVC. I certainly didn't join thinking I was better than the thousands of other people that visit Disney every year. Honestly, I might have thought twice if I knew some people felt this way.

We joined knowing that over the next 40 years we would be able to enjoy nice accommodations & not have to worry about the hotel bill each time we went.

BTW Richyams - If I was staying in a true "Home Away From Home" for me, each of my 3 children would have their own room, along with their own child's bathroom. At home my children do not share the same bed, but even w/ a 2BR - 2 children would either share or 1 would sleep in the LR area. Even if I stayed in a Grand Villa I would not get 4 BRs like I do at home. I realize we are on vacation when we are there - not truly at home!!!!!

ripleysmom - I am not put off by the tone of the responses - just rather surprised!!! I did not realize it was such a debated topic.
Maybe I should have just gone to bed last night instead of staying up and starting this thread! LOL