Would you consider this line cutting?

[rparmfamily]

Never occured to me to send my spouse ahead in a line ahead of us. That's rude. My time is not more important than anyone else's. We can all wait in line. And in the rare instances where one of my children had to potty and the rest of my group was towards the front, well, we got back in line and tried again. Now if the cue line was easy to get to I'd jump back in line, a quick run to the bathroom is one thing but holding a spot for a whole family is line cutting for sure.

Yeah, I guess we are the rude ones..DH got so sick of it last time we kind of made a "wall" in the queue line so people had to ask to pass us. DH is 6'5" and a big dude...he'd just simply put his arms on the railing to not let cutters who were trying to be sneaky thru. DH would say --"oh, the end of the line is back there." Sometimes it worked LOL. Granted, parents/grandparents with small kids,etc are not the issue...it's the "oh that's friend up there" and it's group trying to wedge thru...um, no. Get in line.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

I've only seen this once in 35 years when it wasn't a family trying to deal with a situation. It was 3 teens, and i didn't catch on until the 3rd went by. If families need to deal with stuff whether then I am all for it. Most of the time I don't even think that people think about it. It is only on the Dis where it seems to be a huge issue full of nasty, possible violence and hate. In real life, people tend to smile, nod at the little ones, and go on being happy on their vacation.

 

[tartemis]

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. What is the difference in your wait time if all 4 members of a family get in line to wait for a ride vs. 2 get in line and another 2 go get drinks/use the potty/whatever and then catch up to the other 2? There is no difference. Yes, it can be annoying it the 2 stragglers need to crawl over people to get up there, but I can think of several rides were you can easily catch up with someone without disrupting too many other people.

I can see a problem with large groups when 1 person gets in line (so you think you have a short wait) and all of a sudden an additional 50 people appear, but I have no problem with the occasional family splitting up to make things more efficient.

 

[MiniGirl]

Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. What is the difference in your wait time if all 4 members of a family get in line to wait for a ride vs. 2 get in line and another 2 go get drinks/use the potty/whatever and then catch up to the other 2? There is no difference. Yes, it can be annoying it the 2 stragglers need to crawl over people to get up there, but I can think of several rides were you can easily catch up with someone without disrupting too many other people.

I can see a problem with large groups when 1 person gets in line (so you think you have a short wait) and all of a sudden an additional 50 people appear, but I have no problem with the occasional family splitting up to make things more efficient.

As many people stated, 1 or 2 people (esp a mother with a young child) really isn't a problem. People realize that kids sometimes have to go to the bathroom after waiting in line for a time when they didn't before. However, what I have noticed at WDW is not that. One or two people get in line and then 6 or 7 adults will join them when they get towards the front. It can happen several times on the same ride sometimes. When it is hot and crowded and you've been waiting in line, it is frustrating to have a dozen or so adults get in front of you. I mean seriously, if you and your party (children included) were able to wait in line, why can't they?

We were there once and seemed to run into this same group doing this for every ride, so it wasn't a one time thing. It was their MO.

 

[3mickeymom]

that whenever we did something good or had to put up with some form of mistreatment or injustice, that we would get a beautiful jewel on our crown in heaven. Somehow, as a young child, this made me feel better. I would imagine my sparkling crown and feel better. Use your experience as a teaching moment for your children and explain to them that they are doing the RIGHT thing and they should feel PROUD. Don't let the line cutters ruin your time with your children. Write a letter to Disney and have your family write one too and maybe, if Disney starts getting enough complaints, they will make a change. It really isn't worth getting aggravated because the line cutters don't care. They have no conscience.

P.S. Every week when taking my kids to CCD we see a Mom in a Jaguar that parks her car diagonally in the handicapped parking. Neither she or her children have a handicap. My children know this is very wrong and we just laugh. Especially in the CHURCH parking lot!!

 

[mstinson14]

We were in disneyland the other day and a lady was waiting in line behind us. There was a man that came to join her and waited with her until it was time to get on the ride. At that point, the lady went back through the very long line in for a 45 min wait and ended up not riding the line at all. That was uncalled for I believe, she could have used the chicken exit!!

 

[PollyannaMom]

If a family was in line in front of me, and one of the adults had to take a small child to the bathroom, I would definitely not mind them getting back in line with their group in front of me.

But I don't think it's OK for one person to "save a space" while several others go do something else and then try to "catch up".

 

[Mommy2JulietJocelyn]

my daugher is still working on potty training but looks old enough to be trained because she is big for her age... last time we had to work our way back to my husband in the fairy autograph line due to potty issues... I got the NASTIEST looks from a couple of people... but why should we have to wait in line twice? so long as hubby stays in line while we deal with issues.... I felt terrible as it was the nasty looks just made it so much worse.

I have to say I have been that mom who who came out of line to meet the fairies - DD#3 age 2 had a stinky diaper and we had a 45 minute wait, there were maybe 2 peopl behind us when we left, my friend and my other 2 girls were in line I left w/ stinky daughter to change diaper(didn't think anyone needed to smell that for 45+ minutes) I got looks from so many people when we got back in line and I felt bad about it too, but I simply said "excuse me, we had to change a stinky diaper, my other 2 daughters are right there, may I go by please." Someone did say something rude to me so then I said "oh I am so sorry, she didn't go until after we had been in line but I could have left her stinky, poopy diaper on; but then since you are right behind us you would have had to smell it in this heat. I could go get it if you want" --- i know it was rude of me and againfelt bad saying it but it was to people who added about 6 to there group while I was inthe bathroom changing DD!

 

[polineedyan]

well, i can compromise..If it meant that the straggler would have to ride alone, or interfered with a baby swap or something, i guess i could bend.
It definitely would be an imposition with the larger groups. Mainly, because my wait time increases while theirs decreases..kinda selfish, but a line is a line..and i have those kids who MAY need to leave the line if they have to wait too long.
And second, if they were not allowed to cut,,they would not be denied riding. Meaning, they done HAVE to cut to ride, just to make it more enjoyable for them. The older people cutting DO have the ability to ride WITHOUT their parter. In some of the cases.
I just cant see justifying moving ahead in line, simply because you know someone closer to the front.
Case in point, the large groups that wear tee shirts.
Lets say a few of them decide to ride space mountain. So they get in line at Space..and along come more people from that same group (who may only vaguely know the people in line, but have matching tee shirts..and identified them by such.) The second group who may have had no intention of riding that particular ride can now say "Look, their about to get on Space, lets ride it." And then bustle their way up the line to meet 'their party'..

 

[DreadpiratK]

This gives me an idea for our trip T shirts, I'm going to print on the back "I don't care who's up there, you're not cutting!" in big letters. Should be good for a few laughs anyway.

 

[Duckiedee]

It's not just at Disney, I've seen it at many amusements parks. And it is very astounding to me at the rudeness. I can't even really get frustrated, because the idea of it is just jaw-dropping to me... I mean WHO is so self-absorbed to really think this is okay?

Now, I have NO problem with Parent and Child coming back in the line after whatever little issue the kiddo has had. I wouldn't even bat an eye if just Daddy waited in line for 45 mins and then Mom and kiddo appeared to see the princesses, ride the most fantastic ride etc.

They are LITTLE and these particular rides are all about them... if EVERY Family wanted to do this, I wouldn't mind. 'Cause whether Dad waits or all three waits, it doesn't really affect the line and if it does it is a minor incident even if many families do it. This is also fine with me if it is one or two adult and obviously family members ('cause you just don't know if there are invisible disabilities - or even if they got separated... it doesn't matter to me.)
I also don't care if they do the 'pass bubba' move.

It is kind of irritating when you get people who you hear yelling to their friends near the back "Don't wait! Come up here with me!!!!!!!! And five or so start making their way through the line with the "My friend is waiting for me..." schtick.

Now, what makes me pity the group that does it is where an obvious large group or four or more families/acquantances/friends whatever, just a couple of them get in line and you can literally see the rest of the family hanging out, chillax'n, eating, shopping, whatever, out of the line then literally before the next round of passagers are about to board - a huge group traipses onboard taking up almost every car.

THIS just happened to us at Sea World recently - I was so shocked at the blatant rudeness and expectation that this was okay. I seriously am not exagerating here... there were maybe two families between this group and ours... we had waited about 30 mins, we literally ready to hit the stalls for each car and the entire CLAN of about 18/20 people came up and claimed the cars. One family of four between this group and us also got on.

The men had stood in line and were directing their huge group - You sit here, you there... blah blah.

I didn't say anything at the time, shock does that to me! and because I must have a jewel-ly crown in heaven LOL. But it still amazes me six months later.

Thank you to the poster who suggested we use this as an example to teach our kids... there is a reason for everything and I am so glad you pointed that out - it will keep me from being irritated when it happens again.

Cheers!

 

[polineedyan]

Design a shirt. "Cutting is not Magical." with the Uncle Sam Mickey on it.

 

[floridascgirl]

The only time it really bothered me once this past December. We got in the Standby Line for RNRR becuase the wait time said 30 minutes. We had been in line about 20 minutes when a group of about 12-15 preteen boys (with 2 more adults) came pushing through the line with no excuse me's or anything and joined a group of adults in front of us. When they met up, they all started high-fiveing and being really obnoxious. Everyone around us looked really irritated...mostly b/c they didn't say pardon and they just came barging up. Needless to say, it definitely messed up the Standby Time because our wait ended up be closer to 50 minutes.

 

[Indiana Rose Lee]

15 kids would not increase the wait by 30 minutes. that is like 2 cars to the best of my memory. Not that it wouldn't have irritated my to have a bunch of rowdy boys pushing through.

 

[Leajess99]

I'm shocked by how upset everyone is by this. We are getting ready for our first trip so I have no prior experience and maybe it is a major problem, but I'm just surprised by how angry and rude everyone seems. I wouldn't ever think of sending one person ahead while the rest of our group did something else and then get in line at the end and walk past everyone to the front. I would have most of the party wait in line while I or someone else did something quick and then joined the rest shortly. I go to Six Flags every 2 weeks or so and this has never been an issue for me or anyone else. My mom may stop at a cart outside the ride to grab a soda and then join the kids and I in line a few minutes later. If anyone ever blocked the way and wouldn't let her up with us and told her to have us come back to meet her I would think that person was extremely rude! To my knowledge this has never been considered rude, I have let people pass me and I have passed others, not really a big deal in life. I agree it would be annoying if a large group was going past to meet 1 person and it was a significant space between them and their group, but I would just think they were jerks as they went by. I'd never try to keep them behind me. What kind of a horrible line waiting experience is that for you when people who are annoyed with you are constantly trying to wiggle around you?

It is RUDE to cut in line. Either get in line with your party or wait in line in your spot where you got in line. As for Six Flags, I have seen many people removed from lines for what you have stated your family does. I have blocked people from cutting in line and will continue to do so. The exception of course is if a parent has to take a child to the bathroom.

 

[Leajess99]

We did have one experience 2 weeks ago with some kids trying to cut to get up with a mom and her kids. The mom turned around and told them to go back to the end as there were too many trying to cut up there and that was not happening. I wanted to applaud the lady because while these kids were with her traveling group, she was not willing to let them just jump the line.

 

[TwinsinCA]

At Disneyland I have been known to let DH get in line at the Matterhorn with the kids while I run off to Space Mountain to get fast passes. But I will only do that if the line is long enough that I will be back before it goes into the "maze" part of the line. All I have to do is duck under a rope and not push past anyone. And if it is three of us or 4 we still will use two bobsleds, so no one behind us would have to wait longer for the ride. Technically I am cutting, but the impact is minimal to others.

If it was a different kind of line or I had 3 other people with me, I would not do it.

 

[lathamary]

I consider the line cutter's behavior in the OP's described scenario rude and I would personally not do it. I can wait in line like everyone else and get my drink or snack or whatever after the ride.

Some people and their sense of entitlement

 

[lathamary]

At Disneyland I have been known to let DH get in line at the Matterhorn with the kids while I run off to Space Mountain to get fast passes. But I will only do that if the line is long enough that I will be back before it goes into the "maze" part of the line. All I have to do is duck under a rope and not push past anyone. And if it is three of us or 4 we still will use two bobsleds, so no one behind us would have to wait longer for the ride. Technically I am cutting, but the impact is minimal to others.

If it was a different kind of line or I had 3 other people with me, I would not do it.

You're taking other people's feelings into consideration, and I think that makes all the difference. It's when cutters either don't know or don't care that they're ticking people off that it crosses the line to being rude.

 

[VAN]

It's line cutting.