Woman Becomes Ill After MS - Dies Next Day

[newholidayx2]

How soon after riding MS are ppl getting sick? I wasnt feeling well the day after we went to EpCot. Not sure if it was the sun.

 

[Kitty 34]

How soon after riding MS are ppl getting sick? I wasnt feeling well the day after we went to EpCot. Not sure if it was the sun.

Both my sister (46) and her DH (49) got very sick right after the ride when we went down with the band this Fall. They both never get sick. My sister said it wreck the rest of the day for them. I don't go near that ride for fear of getting ill.

I feel so bad for that lady and her family.

 

[In a hurry]

I have never understood the appeal of MS. I just can not see me WILLINGLY putting my body into a large centrifuge.....I remember what happened to the blood in the test tubes in chemistry class....

Exactly!

eta: Of course, I am heartbroken for the family! (Didn't want to sound so flippant!)

 

[MsDisney23]

very sad. my thoughts to the family.

 

[Doctor P]

There are also different rules that kick in for death investigations if someone is pronounced dead outside of a hospital. That is another reason why they do life support efforts till they get to the hospital and then pronounce the person there.

 

[agotta]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/tourism/orl-bk-disneydeath041206,0,1480022.story?coll=orl-home-headlines has more information. If I'm reading it correctly she was admitted to the hospital on Tuesday and passed away today, Wednesday.

Very sad.

I agree this is all very sad but I feel the title to this thread is very msileading. She did not die ON Mission Space. She had what they believe to be high blood pressure and other health problem. She was dizzy upon exciting the ride so they took her to the hospital.

This is just another case where Disney is made to look like the bad guy because someone either doesn't know of a pre-existing condition or ignores the warnings and it becomes Disney's fault. And of course the media jumps to that conclusion and who is to argue with them?

Again, this is a very sad story, but unfortunately just one of those things that happnes. And Disney does their best to research each case and determine if it's the ride or some other condition that may have caused this death. It's really too bad because I have to imagine if this ride gets too much more bad publicity it will either be revamped or closed down all together

 

[mrsltg]

That's entirely true. No one has ever been pronounced dead on Disney property. No one.

I have no doubts there have been a number that have been dead when EMTs arrived. But the actual pronouncement is done off Disney property. It seems like adding insult to injury to me for the already distraught and devestated families. Personally, I would like to know that the time of pronouncement is accurate.... for more than anything, to provide what little closure there can be.

EMTs don't pronounce people. Doctors do. Your statements are much ado about nothing and quite a misconception.

 

[Feralpeg]

I agree this is all very sad but I feel the title to this thread is very misleading. She did not die ON Mission Space. She had what they believe to be high blood pressure and other health problem. She was dizzy upon exciting the ride so they took her to the hospital.

This is just another case where Disney is made to look like the bad guy because someone either doesn't know of a pre-existing condition or ignores the warnings and it becomes Disney's fault. And of course the media jumps to that conclusion and who is to argue with them?

Again, this is a very sad story, but unfortunately just one of those things that happnes. And Disney does their best to research each case and determine if it's the ride or some other condition that may have caused this death. It's really too bad because I have to imagine if this ride gets too much more bad publicity it will either be revamped or closed down all together

Sorry if the title of the thread is misleading. I posted what I heard on the local news. Since then, I posted on another thread that the woman did not die on Mission Space. She did, however, get ill immediately after leaving the ride and was taken to Celebration hospital where she died last night. It took the news a while to post that information. Regardless, she became ill close enough to riding MS to think there is some connection. Most likely she had a medical condition she was unaware of and the force of the ride caused a reaction. We won't know until the autopsy is completed.

 

[gradtchr]

I just saw that on our local news. So sad.

 

[Virgo10]

If Astronauts have to go thru years Of training why the heck does Disney think that everyday people can ride Mission: Space?? Now there are two deaths and, yeah, maybe this person had a pre-existing condition and maybe she didn't even know it. Should you have to take a physical before riding a ride at WDW?

This doesn't even count all the people who have gotten sick. At what percentage does a ride become a safety concern?

I've got my flame proof suit on because there are a great many 30 and 20 and younger something people on this board who think that all older people should know every aspect of their health and act accordingly. Well we'll see what happens when you're pushing the big 50 and whether you will always want to act like the grim reaper is standing just over the next hill.

My point is that a ride that has inherent dangers has no business being at a Disney park. This isn't a 200 foot coaster where you can see that fall is going to mess up your back or cause heart palpitations. This is a ride that most people would not be able to compare any other ride to and therefore it loses it's fear factor.

I never liked the concept of MS and I will never step foot on it. How many more people have to die before someone stands up to Disney and shuts this turkey down?

 

[DawnCt1]

Is that true or are you being sarcastic?

It's so sad.

It's definately true. Read the Mouse Betrayed, among other books.

 

[DawnCt1]

If Astronauts have to go thru years Of training why the heck does Disney think that everyday people can ride Mission: Space?? Now there are two deaths and, yeah, maybe this person had a pre-existing condition and maybe she didn't even know it. Should you have to take a physical before riding a ride at WDW?

This doesn't even count all the people who have gotten sick.

Astronauts go through years of training in order to fly in space and do their jobs. MS requires no training and I would bet that if I didn't press the buttons on the console, we would have taken off, landed and returned to earth. People die in a lot of places. Its a sad fact of life. It doesn't mean that the ride is responsible unless it didn't operate in the way in which it was intended. The people who get sick are perhaps prone to motion sickness.

 

[Daxx]

If Astronauts have to go thru years Of training why the heck does Disney think that everyday people can ride Mission: Space?? Now there are two deaths and, yeah, maybe this person had a pre-existing condition and maybe she didn't even know it. Should you have to take a physical before riding a ride at WDW?

Disney isn't the first place to have this type of G-force type ride. And, I don't think anyone has to train to go through G-forces ... we experience them on all kinds of rides, esp. roller coasters!

This doesn't even count all the people who have gotten sick. At what percentage does a ride become a safety concern?

A lot of people get sick coming off the Teacups ride, myself included. Last trip, we saw a kid puke after getting off the Dumbo ride! Should the teacups and Dumbo rides be a safety concern as well!?

I've got my flame proof suit on because there are a great many 30 and 20 and younger something people on this board who think that all older people should know every aspect of their health and act accordingly. Well we'll see what happens when you're pushing the big 50 and whether you will always want to act like the grim reaper is standing just over the next hill.

41 yo Daxx and 40 yo DW here and we think that, regardless of age, people should have some idea of their general health condition. A yearly physical will detect any problems ... as well as your family history. Now, if this rider *knew* she had HBP and the ride warned those w/HBP not to ride, then isn't she taking the risk!? It's one thing if you don't know you have a health condition (but by age 40, you should start having yearly physicals -- if you can afford Disney, you can afford a physica). lIf a ride says "Not for people w/High Blood Pressure, Heart Conditions, Pregnancy", then I'm hoping that people have an idea if they have any of these conditions, as all are serious! I've seen women riding "Not for pregnant people" rides who were ready to give birth. One woman on Test Track, another on Star Tours. If you KNOW (big difference, knowing and not knowing) you have a health issue and you ride a ride that has warnings for people w/your condition to NOT ride, then you're taking your chances. Do we act as if the grim reaper is right behind us? No, but we take proper measures to stay healthy! That includes a yearly physical. This past year, we both had to take stress tests, etc. as part of our "work up".

I never liked the concept of MS and I will never step foot on it. How many more people have to die before someone stands up to Disney and shuts this turkey down?

If the ride caused several healthy people, w/o underlying health conditions, to die then they'll shut it down. The two people who died had health issues ... the boy had an undetected heart defect. The woman's cause might have been the high blood pressure.

I think you have to ride safely! You have to know your limitations and your health. Read the warning signs. If any warn against your health problems, then don't ride them. If there were a sign that said "41 yo men should not ride this ride", then I'm not going to get on.

 

[Ragnrok23]

I actually think MS goes overboard with the warnings. They state them it seems every minute as your waiting in line.

I also believe that they need to update the warning system. It seems that they have the same warning on Splash Mountain that they do on Mission Space. They should probably have some sort of grade level?


to the family

 

[CathrynRose]

When we were living there - we visited EPCOT on many empty days...one of these empty days my boys (then 13 & 9) went on MS, twice in a row.

Both were *MESSED UP* afterwards... (I have not been on it, and have no plans to - I can go on HUGE roller coasters with no problems...dont know why I never thought I could handle this ??? ) They had no desire to do anything, and were miserable for a large chunk of the day.

In visits afterwards, both of them said "no thanks" to going on it. They had been on it before the double-ride, but are done with it.

These kids can ride ToT over and over and over and over - RnR over and over and over - The Hulk over and over and over and over....

MS is something else. Im glad so many people can handle it, but Im really wondering about how much stress this puts on your body and if it's appropriate for an Amusement Park (like it or not, thats what Disney is) Six Flags would have been forced to remove such a ride.

I think it's a shame.... there's warnings on EVERY ride, no one thinks one is any worse then the next.

ETA: you know, like I said - I havent been on it.... Ive havent seen the hoards of warnings in the queue. I just feel so many people think 'it wont happen to them" Its just scary and sad.

 

[Jennasis]

I am only 29 and I thought MS was way too much for me. I love coasters, test track, tower of terror etc, but MS was too much.

Frankly (and I can't believe I'm actually saying this about Disney or any of it's rides), it needs to be at worst REMOVED or at the very least, TONED DOWN. Two deaths is 2 too many.

I am always the first to rush to Disney's defense about people knowing their own limits and health status, but in this case, the ride is a problem. A yearly physical did not catch the problems I have that preclude me from riding it now.

Flame if you must. Remember...they toned down ALIEN friggin' ENCOUNTER because it was too intense (and you don't even move on that ride). MS needs to be seriously tweaked, or replaced.

 

[CathrynRose]

Let me add one more thing here...

Because DF and I never rode, we say in that game area at the exit. I am NOT exaggerating when I tell you every single time we waited...every time... paramedics ran through there, at least once. They may not have been sent to the hospital, but everytime they came running through with a stretcher.

And then this is in addition to the masses of people who come out looking like they just got hit by a Mack Truck. If youve ever waited at ride exits for your kids, you know how the groups of people whom exit look happy, laughing, giggling, adrenaline pumping... I cant say this is what you see if you wait at THAT exit. Everyone looks a little

 

[CathrynRose]

Oh geez - found this too (exerpts of the 4 y/o who died last years, autopsy)

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2005-11/20506861.pdf

Notice the cause of death.... natural. Sure, he had an existing unknown condition, but I dont think if he had not stepped foot on that ride, that he would have keeled over that same day.

Sad.

 

[Crankyshank]

I think MS also puts people into sensory overload before they even go on the ride with all of the noises and flashing lights. That can't be good for people. I know I was feeling woozy before I even got on the ride because of all of those flashing lights until I shut my eyes and had DH lead me through the queue.

 

[Planogirl]

I'm prone to HBP and it's strange that there's a major ride at WDW that I can't ride. My BP is monitored and controlled with medication yet I think that it would be foolhardly for me to chance MS. I don't have that with other rides though.

I'm not saying that the thing should be taken out. However, it's odd that WDW built a major attration that precludes a part of the population. I realize that many other parks do that but that seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon at the Disney parks.