Wk of May 28--2007 WISH Walking/Running Club

[KeenHo]

So Howard, can I pursuade you to join our RtB team? You've got the speed, baby
Sunny

Speed? I never touch the stuff. OK... you've got my attention... what is the RtB Group?


Thanks to everyone who commented on my PR in the Spring Lake 5 and my Delaware Marathon results.

Howard

 

[Kristi1357]

Ok, I am going to do my drive-by post and catch up with everyone tomorrow at work (thank God I have a job where all I do is surf the net all day!).

I have only worked out twice since the Minnie.
So, I went out this afternoon and wogged 3 miles in 38:50! It felt great, no problems. I thought it would be hard since I've been slacking lately.

 

[gatorphipps]

Christa - Your pic is the reason my weight is currently bust! Hot = Ice Cream for dh and I. 3 out of 4 days is not good!

Oh yes! I understand...this weekend put me over the edge!

Sunny - Ron told me about that Garmin in April while we were trail running...He had read somewhere that they were coming out with it..or had seen it..or something like that.. It looks cool! I don't use one running, but I bet it would be cool to use it biking and swimming. I never really know how far I have gone.
And, to agree with Howard, what is RtB???

Judy - You did AWESOME! I loved reading your race report. AND IT WAS A RACE!

I swam today! Did a little over a mile...The 1st 25 laps took 32.45...There was this guy beside me flipping and stuff...he kept getting real close to me and had VERY little clothing on! I will never quite be the same after seeing all I saw IN THE POOL today! The last 11+ miles I forgot to turn back on my watch..it is for the best because I had DDalmost6 on my back. She is 45lbs of dead weight!

 

[crzy4mk]

HELP!!!

I really need some pixie dust, good thoughts, prayers, and any advice anyone may have to give. I am in pain! You may remember I reported several days ago that while my training was going well, and I was having some great times on my sessions, I was having some pretty serious pain in my shins/knees. So, I got some good crosstraining shoes, and started taking a day off here and there, and I thought my problem was solved.

WRONG!

I did 3 miles Saturday morning, and was a little sore afterward. No big deal, because I was taking Sunday off. Well, my knees hurt pretty bad on Sunday, even though I wasn't doing any running/walking. So I planned to get up Monday morning and get in a good, long session. I had to quit after 2 miles because my knees hurt so bad. So no session today. And as I sit here and type this, I don't see how I can train tomorrow either. I am taking pain reliever and putting ice packs on my knees, but it's not helping much. I am really starting to get discouraged because I was doing great.

So, now that my pity party is over, anyone got any good advice for my knee troubles? I know that it could be several different things, but I would love to hear from anyone who has had knee troubles. Thanks.

Michael

 

[princessmomma]

HELP!!! So, I got some good crosstraining shoes,
Michael

It could be your shoes, cross trainers and running shoes are very different. What kind of shoes are you wearing?

 

[crzy4mk]

It could be your shoes, cross trainers and running shoes are very different. What kind of shoes are you wearing?

Nike Air Monarchs. They seem to be good shoes, especially considering that for the first month I was training, I was wearing 5 year old Reeboks with no support and that were definitely not designed for running/walking.

The reason I chose crosstrainers as opposed to running shoes is that I am actually doing more walking than running. I typically walk 1 mile, and run approx. 200 yards, then repeat. So I thought crosstrainers would work best for me. It could be the shoes, but I don't think so.

Just a little more info on my knee problem: it actually feels more like the very top of my shin as opposed to my knee. Like right where my lower leg bone (fibula?) meets my knee on the inside of my leg. I've looked at a few things online, and I can't remember exactly what it's called, but I think they said it is commonly known as "runner's knee". One thing I remember is that it said it usually hurt going down stairs, but not much going up. And that is true in my case.

 

[princessmomma]

I ran my last run of 4.5 miles before my little home town half marathon this weekend. It was terribly hot. I started at 8:40 a.m. after I got DS and DD off to school and finished at 9:25 am and it was already 81 F. I almost died. The low for Saturday morning is suppose to be 60 F, but that is still too hot for me! I remember Disney, gosh that was nice and cool! I couldn't imagine running a marathon in anything over 50 F. I ran an easy 9:45 pace, I am really hoping to be around 10mpm on Saturday, but the course is really hilly and it will be hot again Saturday , so I am hoping of a 2:20 half. I ran 2:13 in Vancouver, but it was 45 F and drizzling, perfect running weather.

Also, today I officially put down a deposit for a room at POFQ for the Disney Marathon, you know the one I am not sure if I will be running since I am running Chicago in October! Still need to work on DH for that one.


Christa, good job working on those relatives for marathon weekend, and your mom too! That's great!

Jen, I know what you mean about dripping from the heat. I am a "leisure" runner, I don't work very hard so I don't really sweat, I 'perspire', but today holy cow, I was sweating bullets!! I think I drank 80 oz of water and gaterade after just 4.5 miles (and 32 oz during the run).

Amy, great pace with your run! Yes heat really zaps you, think about how well you will run in the cooler Fall months when training!

Sunny, glad to hear you are feeling better! Not sure if I can do RTB since I decided to run Chicago. But I never say never! What weekend is it again?

Judy, love your race report. You are so above those chatty women out for a stroll. You are an athlete! So glad you decided to run with the 5Kers. You are going to be hooked on races before you know it.

Waiting for Dave's anniversary trip report to Niagara Falls.

Michael, good luck finding your problem to your knee pain, just be sure to ice.

Keep cool all!

Colleen

 

[wtpclc]

Michael - Running shoes tend to be best, even when walking. Uneven groudn can also effect your knees. I'm no expert by any means, but those are my best guesses. You may have been able to get by with bad shoes at the beginning, but with longer runs, tha tmay be catching up to you.

Colleeen - I hear you on teh heat! EVen teh end of WDW was too hot for me because it hits the 60s. Good luck Saturday! Stay hydrated!

 

[MouseDogMom]

Dena (and Kristi) - I'm right there with you. I didn't run for an entire month before the Minnie, felt good about how I did then, but haven't done anything since then. I've only been lurking on the thread for the past couple of weeks since I had nothing to report, but Saturday morning I got up and went out and did 3 miles, and then did another 3 miles Sunday morning, and it FELT GREAT! Even better, I didn't feel like I was starting over. Like Heather said, you just have to get off the couch and do something. So yesterday I signed up for the Race for the Cure 5K next weekend - now I have a goal!

Sunny - There is nothing wrong with "easy" birthday parties. It does not make you a bad mother. The kids don't know the difference anyway, and in 20 years, having more time to spend with your DS will have been more important than what kind of party you gave.

Michael - PD for the knees. I hope you figure it out soon, but take it easy and keep using the ice. It took me almost 2 months of rest to get my shins back to normal, and I'm still babying them!

WE BOUGHT A GARMIN!!! I really thought I wasn't doing enough distance to make it worth the money, but DH has gotten interested now, and he got money from his soccer team for the end of year gift, so we went shopping on Saturday. He looked at lots of different monitors, and actually bought a cheaper one and tried it too, (cause he got tired of hearing me say "everyone on the DIS has a Garmin,") but the other one didn't work at all so we kept the Garmin. Now I have even more reason to get back out and run...

Jackie

 

[princessmomma]

WE BOUGHT A GARMIN!!! (cause he got tired of hearing me say "everyone on the DIS has a Garmin,")
Jackie

Good job Jackie! You will love it. It keeps my interest up when I am running, even though it gives me wacky readings, it is still fun.

Carrie, yes, by the end of the WDW Marathon, it was too hot for me too. But the first 3 hours were great! I sure hope I can go this year so I can meet you!

Colleen

 

[Tiger Lily 03]

Yay! Glad you got a Garmin. I love mine. Have fun with yours.

Howard, yep! I'd say you need to do RtB. It seems like there should be a WISH Team going. I'd love to hear of the trip report. There is a link floating on one of our threads somewhere. RtB link for Howard

OT, I've posted up some pictures and a small report of our trip last week if anyone wants to take a look it can be found here: Lily's 2006 Cancun trip

 

[MelRhoads]

We are back from a long weekend away! It was great. My parents watched the boy for 2 whole days and we mt. biked and saw movies!!! I think phil picked up something from work! I'm hoping he feels better. I didn't run much this weekend, but I will in the next week.

I think I got him to agree to register for the full in jan! We are going to beg my parents to come for boy duty! (Carrie - you've created a monster out of phil and I. I asked him if we could go again this year, and he said "i'm hoping we do, I was looking forward to it!!!")

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Good Morning TEAM:

OK, I need to save my anniversary trip report for my next post, but suffice it to say we had a wonderful time!!! Some running news for me - I broke down and bought new shoes on Saturday. My running store recommended the New Balance 1060s. They offer some more cushioning than my Asics Cumulus, and they are support to have a little more support too. They feel pretty good right now, and I'm really hoping they help with my shin splints. I wogged in them in Niagara Falls. I did 4 miles along the Niagara Parkway in ~60 min/15 mpm pace. I did lots of stops to look at sights (I'll tell you why I was running alone and left my wife alone in my trip report). I also ran yesterday when I got home from work. OMG!!! It was 95 degrees!!! I struggled through 3 miles in 10:45mpm pace. The shoes felt pretty good though.

OK, I have a lot to catch up on. Let me start:

Congratulations Jodi on your 10K!!! 67 minutes is nothing to sneeze at, and it does sound like it was really hot on the course. You've come a long way. I'd love to see pictures if you have them.

Amy- great job on your 8 mile long run. Your training has really, really come along. You're doing super!

Howard- Wow, 8:47 pace for your 5 miler!! Whew, you are . I'm impressed. WTG And that's really cool we both lived in Plum for a while. I was born in California and we moved to Plum around 1971. I graduated from Plum High in 1986, and then went to Pitt. I had lots of friends that went to PSUNK. Did Cam go there too?

Monte/Monica- Hey, great job on your 10k ! I didn't know you were running the Bolder Boulder. Wow, I've heard about that race for a long time. It always sounded like a fun one. Good for you!!!

Carrie- Sounds like the Mackinac Bridge run was a lot of fun. Glad you didn't get blown off. I can't help you with the Garmin questions. Mine's been wigging out lately too. I think the leafy trees are really blocking the GPS signals. Fortunately most of my routes I already have figured out. If there's a WISH meet up next year on the bridge, I might have to come out!!!

Judy- sounds like you had a great race!!! Good for you. You had a real breakthrough. You started with the chit-chat walkers, realized that wasn't for you, brokeaway, set your own pace, and had a great time. Good for you!!! I loved your race report.

Kim- thanks for stopping by and posting. Keep on putting those steps in.

Dena- Thanks for posting the confession. I know that is really tough to come to terms with. It does sound like you are in a rut with your training, but put your past behind you (from the Lion King ), don't worry about what you have or have not done, and just put some steps in (as Lily would say). Try not to think about what your fitness level was before you stopped. You know the Garmin did really help me with my training. I like being able to go out the door anywhere and know how far I've run. I appreciate the $$ issues though. We certainly have those too. Maybe you can just go to a park, find somewhere new, and do some nice easy walks in a new place. Get the steps in, and get some enjoyment back in your training. Good Luck Dena!!! And don't you leave us!

Christa- great job on your training. I'm impressed you can go out on a Friday and pound out 10 miles at 9 mpm pace. You're pretty speedy out there yourself!!!

Sara- good luck with your 5K this weekend.

Kevin- good for you for getting your 5K training run in a 9:45 mpm pace. At least you got the steps in, right?

Lily Welcome Back! I'll have to go over and read your trip report. I hope you had a great trip. Just in case you missed it while you were gone. I'm official!!! I signed up and sent my money in for the 2007 WDW Full Marathon. This is due in large part to you. So I'll see you in January!

Michael- I wish I could help you. Good luck with the knee pain. I'll send you some PD though.

Jackie- Welcome back!!! Thanks for posting. I'm so glad you had a good run. Good for you. Congrats on the Garmin. Have fun with it!!!

Erik- good luck on the JPMCCC tomorrow! We're supposed to have 10,000 runners at our race tomorrow night. I know that's nothing compared to your race, but I hope you have fun. I'll be right there with you across the pond.

 

[RunningLilo]

Thanks for all the support everyone!

It really means a lot to be able to post my really bad days as well as the good ones. Nobody in my "real life" understands the mental aspect of running. It is tough!!! I feel like I'm going sometimes. My mom actually asked me the other day, "So are you already done with running?" Sheesh! But I didn't get upset because I knew that she just doesn't understand. But you guys do and you always seem to pull me through with love.

Since this weekend is the only one we have open for a 5K in June I decided to take the leap and do it! I guess I will definitely find out just how much I've regressed. I had originally convinced dh that we could do 2 in July to make up for it, but you all convinced me that I need to JUST DO IT!

I also set a small goal that I think will help: I want to have a new training plan firmly decided on by this Saturday. That way after the race, when I feel like a runner again, I can easily glide right back into training.

Now I'm completely open to suggestions as far as training plans go. What's working for you all?

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Hello Again Everyone:

So my wife and I had a great anniversary weekend. My SIL came out from Cleveland to watch the princesses , and we drove out to Niagara Falls Sunday afternoon around 1:30p. It took about 90 min to get there, and we checked into our beautiful hotel the DoubleTree Niagara Fallsview. We relaxed in our room for a bit, and then went to the Skylon Tower for an early dinner in the revolving dining room at the top of the tower. The food was pretty good, nothing great, but the views were spectacular. Fantastic view of all of the falls. We finished dinner, and since we were only a block from our hotel went back to our room to rest before the Cirque Niagara show at 8pm. Great show. Not quite the same level as Cirque du Soleil, but very entertaining. It was a Russian troupe with lots of horses and trick riding. Very cool. I arranged for a late checkout of our room so we could sleep in on Monday. We slept in, had a large, late breakfast, and my wife went off to the spa treatments I got her for our anniversary. I had made reservations for a 60 min full body massage followed by a 30 min facial. While DW was getting her treatments I went out for a slow run. Left the hotel, walked down to the Skylon Tower and saw a sign that said "stairs to the Falls". Walked down the steps, and I ended up in a beautiful garden with blooming irises. I was on Niagara Parkway right by the falls, and just wogged up the street. I took it really slowly because I still had the big breakfast in my belly, and because I was taking in the sights. I would run 10 mpm for a while, and stop and walk when I felt like it. All and all I did 4 miles in about 60 min (15 mpm pace). Very relaxing. I got back to the hotel, went for a swim in the pool, stretched, packed up, checked out, and picked up DW. It was just a 24 hour getaway, but boy it felt great. It was so nice to have a day just with my DW and reconnect a little - so to speak...

 

[MelRhoads]

Dena - I'm so sorry to hear about your discouragement. I think that is something everyone goes through! I told some girl about 3 weeks b/4 last yrs. goofy that i was never running on pavement again. I've got to learn not to say never! Anyway, I'm sure you'll be able to get back into it! So much of it is mental and you are an athlete and a runner, so you may be a little slower when you start back, but you'll be back up to speed in no time. I'm glad you signed up for the 5k!

Sunny - The RtB sounds like so much fun. I wish I could do it! I've got to work on the feather this week.

Christa - how did you get so fast in the water???? I've been trying to swim since this time last yr. and it takes me about 10 minutes longer than you to swim the mile!!!! I'm doing that tri (of road) in a week and 1/2 but it is a really short swim! I think I'm going to do 1/2 ironman in August and I know I can do the 1.2 mile swim but I'm thinking i might freak out being in the lake that long. BTW, I forgot you are an LPC. That is so funny. I'm a rehab couns (or used to be). I was thinking that you and I are kindred spirits, but your spirit is much faster than mine

 

[MelRhoads]

Judy - I loved the race report!!! You did great! Watch out WDW!

Carrie - EEEEEEKKKK. I'm not sure I would run across that bridge!

Dave - That is great (in a hard core athlete way) that you went for a run while your wife was getting the massage. I'm not sure which I would have chosen!! Anyway, you are truely an athlete!

 

[gatorphipps]

Christa- great job on your training. I'm impressed you can go out on a Friday and pound out 10 miles at 9 mpm pace. You're pretty speedy out there yourself!!!

Dave - So glad you had a great trip! You are sweet to think I am fast...I was just meeting Bree at a certain time and had to be there on time...the run was really hard that day b/c it was SO HOT! So my pace was not that great.

Melissa - OH NO! I am SLOW in the H2O! My time I posted yesterday was just for 25 laps...I did not time the last 10 b/c DD was on my back! I normally do about 10 laps (20 lengths or 500 yrds) in 14 min! I would be faster if I could breath on both sides, but can only master the left....And I forgot you were a Rehab Counselor! Cool! I just had to put down a chunck of $$ for my insurance - so if I got sued! Gotta protect myself.....

Sunny - I now remember the RtB...Was it that relay?

Hope everyone is doing great! I must pull myself off the boards to go to work!

 

[Mouse Skywalker]

Dave - That is great (in a hard core athlete way) that you went for a run while your wife was getting the massage. I'm not sure which I would have chosen!! Anyway, you are truely an athlete!

Ha, ha, ha... well what I wanted to do was get a sports massage, but they didn't have any appointments open for that. So I let my wife have the spa openings and I went for a wog. Don't think it would have gone over so well for me to get a sports massage, and left my wife trying to figure out how to spend the hour...

 

[KeenHo]

Dave - Thanks for the note. The 5 Miler was tough in the heat, but compared to the Marathon, it was nothing (distance wise). I think that is why I was able to keep a faster pace than normal. That is lightly slower than my 5K paces, but still good and I'll take a PR ANYDAY!

BTW - Cam went to Lafayette College (Easton, PA) for her undergraduate studies. We met through a service club (Circle K) that we were both involved with on the PA state level.

The RtB looks challenging... not something I can commit to right now but thank you for the invite. When is that with respect to the DL Inaugural Half? Isn't it about the same time? I am running in the DL Half.

I am in a post-marathon "take it easy" you have a million other things to do time. No training, no cross training at the moment. I will get back into it once our DD graduates and things get back to semi-normal.

Happy training everyone!

Howard