Will WDW ever make a parl like IOA?

[AspiringCindy]

Does anyone know if Disney is ever going to make a park to compete with IOA? You know, all thrill rides!

 

[EUROPA]

There have been rumors about a 5th park in Orlando for quite some time. Some rumors have it being a thrill park based around the villains from Disney. Pretty sure all that went out the door once..DCA and Animal Kingdom flopped. Besides Disney needs to spend some major money on updating the existing 3 1/2 parks. Nobody sees that happening in the near future either. Or least not on a large scale.

 

[d-r]

I hope not.

 

[EUROPA]

Don't you love the little back handed coments about IOA...

 

[HB2K]

I really don't see IOA as a thrill park....sure there are some "thrill rides", but I think the tag thrill park is a misnomer.

The only "thrill rides" in the park (IMHO) are Dueling Dragons, Hulk & Dr. Doom

Spiderman is not a thrill ride. Popey, Dudley & Jurrasic have thrill elements, but are not flat out thrill rides (anymore than Kali, Splash & Dinosaur are "thrill" rides).

Maybe, just maybe if Disney built it's expansions to the IOA level, Disney wouldn't be the subject of "can they turn it around" articles on Newsweek.

 

[Snowgod]

I also hope that Disney never builds a park like IOA.

 

[Planogirl]

It would be interesting to know how many people who don't want a park like IOA have ever even been there. IOA, a thrill park? Not exactly.

 

[d-r]

Actually, my "hope not" was to this: "You know, all thrill rides!" not ioa.

I think it would be a bad move for disney in many ways; I would rather them put more e-tickets into the existing parks, and have parks with a diversity of attractions.

I am not saying that IOA is a park with "all thrill rides" = it has 2 roller coasters for goodness sakes.

DR

 

[Planogirl]

Originally posted by d-r
Actually, my "hope not" was to this: "You know, all thrill rides!" not ioa.

I think it would be a bad move for disney in many ways; I would rather them put more e-tickets into the existing parks, and have parks with a diversity of attractions.

I am not saying that IOA is a park with "all thrill rides" = it has 2 roller coasters for goodness sakes.

DR

I can sure agree with this! WDW desperately needs more e-ticket rides particularly at Epcot and Animal Kingdom. At least we have something to look forward to soon in Epcot.

And I thought that you were familiar with IOA but so many people don't have a clue. Actually, that included me before I saw the place. (And personally I think that IOA needs more attractions too but that's another thread.)

 

[AspiringCindy]

Maybe thrill park wasn't the right words. There just seems to be faster paced amusements. I agree WDW needs to focus on adding attractions to AK!

 

[Peter Pirate]

There is always two sides...

Planogirl recently visits IOA and is quite impressed. My wife just went two weeks ago...So sure that she would like it she bought an AP. Her opinion: She thought the rides were good (but agreed with my daughter (14) that 'Spidey' is not as good as 'Indy'). She liked the theme and feel of the Park but noted (as my daugher had) that the employees are far 'less magical' than at Disney and most importantly felt that IOA was a HALF DAY PARK!

As for the original statement, no Disney shouldn't build a 'thrill park' nor should they specifically follow US's lead...They should just lead themselves & from the sounds of things 'M:S' and 'E:E' are big steps in the "there's really nothing to worry about" direction...

 

[doubletrouble_vb]

In answer to the original post...I hope not.

And...I've been to IOA, I enjoyed it...I think it needs more rides OR Universal needs to add a ticket option that lets you hop to both parks in one day. I'd pay a premium for that privilege (as long as the hours were long enough).

The problem with IOA is that if you have young kids in tow its definitely a half day park...or if there is a ride element you don't want to do it is also a less than full day park. For example I went in February and quickly figured out I didn't want to do Dudley Do Right and Dr. Doom's Fear Fall. I usually can spend a day in USF.

Disney just needs to put some money into key places...specifically Future World, parts of MGM as well as AK. I don't even need a thrill ride per se. Just give me something that will "WoW" me the way WDW used to.

 

[Planogirl]

Originally posted by Peter Pirate
There is always two sides...

Planogirl recently visits IOA and is quite impressed. My wife just went two weeks ago...So sure that she would like it she bought an AP. Her opinion: She thought the rides were good (but agreed with my daughter (14) that 'Spidey' is not as good as 'Indy'). She liked the theme and feel of the Park but noted (as my daugher had) that the employees are far 'less magical' than at Disney and most importantly felt that IOA was a HALF DAY PARK!

As for the original statement, no Disney shouldn't build a 'thrill park' nor should they specifically follow US's lead...They should just lead themselves & from the sounds of things 'M:S' and 'E:E' are big steps in the "there's really nothing to worry about" direction...

I agree with this too! (There's just too much agreeing going on lately. ). We spent two half days at IOA and a part of that was for me to ooh and aah over the theming in some areas. The original Universal park is what I was really impressed with and frankly very surprised. We spent two full days there and really enjoyed it. IOA needs more done IMO, it's not a full day park for us.

 

[AspiringCindy]

It is definitely not a full day park! My DD's couldn't go on half the rides. It's just that I find certain rides amazing in IOA.

 

[EUROPA]

I could spend 3 days in IOA and never be bored...but...I also think they need to add at least 2 more E-Ticket type attractions and three or so C-D type. With that being said....I much prefer Universal's IOA offering then Eisner's view of a new park. Think MGM, AK, and DCA when they first opened. Rumor has it that IOA will be next for a few updates after the Mummy opens next year.

 

[DISNEYBIGGDOGG]

I think they should update the current parks. The IOA theme does not go withthe Disney culture. These type of rides will have too many smaller children that would not be able to ride due to height restrictions.

 

[Tekneek]

I was under the impression that ex-Disney workers were the designers behind IOA anyway. So, in some way Disney has already made IOA.

I don't think they need to make an IOA park.

 

[crusader]

WDW needs more thrill. M:S and Everest are a great move in that direction. The current impression is gradually transforming the parks into becoming a place for mild mannered individuals who like "baby rides".

The old traditional all inclusive attraction culture of the "world" is becoming less popular with every competitive advancement. They need to move beyond this. If they keep trying to operate under the premise that the attraction has to be for everyone they will gradually be passed by.

Prime example - California Adventure. With amusement parks so advanced on the west coast how could they possible think a watered down version with a "theme" endorsement was going to attract anyone over the age of 7? They were too busy trying to make the rides for everyone they wasted a great expansive opportunity. Put in some significant "major" thrills and you'll get a reaction - especially when classes are in session.

 

[Peter Pirate]

I agree with one part of your posr crusader...DCA failed in its stated attempt...But not because of the reasons you state. They failed because there wasn't enough quality, just quantity. If all of DCA's attempts would have ended with the 'wow' factor of 'Soarin' Over California' for instance, DCA would currently have no problems with or without 'world class thrills.'

"Baby rides" as you call them is what Disney is predicated on and as soon as they enter the 'coaster wars' where you're only as relevent as the latest, greatest ride you've provided, they are doomed.

 

[EUROPA]

Originally posted by Peter Pirate
DCA would currently have no problems with or without 'world class thrills.'

"Baby rides" as you call them is what Disney is predicated on and as soon as they enter the 'coaster wars' where you're only as relevent as the latest, greatest ride you've provided, they are doomed.

I would say that in "Walt's" Disney he had room for all types. From baby rides to thrill rides(of thier day) I think that Walt would have continued that trend as well. In fact, minus a huge Castle, 1 more good quality dark ride and acouple C-D attrations, I think that IOA is very close to the type of park Walt would have built today. Remeber quite a few of the current worshiped attractions at DisneyLand and DisneyWorld were not there when then first opened.